Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Advise Needed About Bowel Biopsy


Jenny1972

Recommended Posts

Jenny1972 Rookie

Hi

I have been gluten free for 4 months. My Doctor said I had celiacs but the consultant at the hospital says that there is no eveidence to prove this from my bllod work so I need a biopsy. The only thing is that they expect me to eat gluten for two weeks before biopsy. I did an experiment about a month ago and ate a bread roll which made my bowels exploid (yuk) and then I spent all weekend with pains in my arms and legs. So I proved to myself that I can't eat wheat. I told the consultant this and he is still insisting that I eat gluten for two weeks prior to biopsy. He says is inportant to get a diagnosis. The trouble is I am on my own with my 12 year old son who has epilepsy. I have no family support so don't see how I can make myself ill for two weeks just to get a diagnosis. Plus I work part time.

Any advise?

Jenny


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



nikki-uk Enthusiast

Quite frankly, is it worth it??

You know how gluten affects you so I really can't see what's to be gained??

Besides - 2 weeks is not nearly long enough for you to gain a positive biopsy (more like 8 week+)

Good Luck! :)

ravenwoodglass Mentor

Okay, you have a diagnosis, you have done well on the gluten free diet and have been gluten-free for 4 months. You know gluten makes you sick. You don't need to make yourself sick for 2 weeks, which as stated is not long enough anyway, just to prove to this guy that the gluten free diet is what you need. If you do go through the pain and expense and the biopsies are negative are you going to go back to eating gluten? If the answer is no then IMHO you will be putting yourself through a lot of pain just to 'prove' something to this doctor. When I was diagnosed I did attempt a gluten challenge for a biopsy, I was back on gluten for only a couple days when I started bleeding heavily from my GI tract. The biopsy was cancelled and I got my 'official' diagnosis at that point. Too bad I had to almost die to get it. Your body is telling what you need to know. You don't have to prove it to anyone. In my opinion.

Jestgar Rising Star
He says is important to get a diagnosis.

Important for whom? If it isn't important for you personally, don't do it.

happygirl Collaborator

Although I do think its important for some people (esp those who haven't stopped eating gluten) to have the biopsy, if I were you, I would not do it.

I've stood my ground....told 4 GIs I wouldn't go back to eating gluten. They can't make you eat gluten and have the biopsy. If it is too much for you, then don't back down.

nora-n Rookie

About your son---gluten is known to to trigger epilepsy in gluten-sensitive people. Have you looked into that?

Dr. Hadjivassiliou has also written articles about gluten-sensitivity and neurological problems and says only a few have bowel afflictions, that gluten-sensitivity is really three things, villi destruction, Dermatitis herpetiformis, and neurological affliction.

nora

Jenny1972 Rookie

Hello

I totally agree with all of you. I know I can't eat gluten so will remain gluten free no matter what the biopsy result says. I am trying to get my consultant to confirm that the proceedure may still be useful if it rules out stomach ulcers and other cysts etc. As for a celiac diagnosis like I said I am going to carry on gluten free regardless. I do feel much better by not eating gluten so why change.

The only benefit to getting a proper diagnosis is that if I have celiacs then it is likely that my son has too and as one of you commented about gluten effecting his epilepsy it may be nessesary to get him gluten free too.

Jenny


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Jenny1972 Rookie
Okay, you have a diagnosis, you have done well on the gluten free diet and have been gluten-free for 4 months. You know gluten makes you sick. You don't need to make yourself sick for 2 weeks, which as stated is not long enough anyway, just to prove to this guy that the gluten free diet is what you need. If you do go through the pain and expense and the biopsies are negative are you going to go back to eating gluten? If the answer is no then IMHO you will be putting yourself through a lot of pain just to 'prove' something to this doctor. When I was diagnosed I did attempt a gluten challenge for a biopsy, I was back on gluten for only a couple days when I started bleeding heavily from my GI tract. The biopsy was cancelled and I got my 'official' diagnosis at that point. Too bad I had to almost die to get it. Your body is telling what you need to know. You don't have to prove it to anyone. In my opinion.

Oh god how aweful for you. This is exactly what I am trying to avoid. Why should I put myself at risk for a diagnosis.

Thanks you for your comments.

aikiducky Apprentice

Is your son gluten free? If he isn't, what's stopping you from having him tested? You don't necessarily need to have celiac for your son to have it.

Pauliina

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,109
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    AbbyGh
    Newest Member
    AbbyGh
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Xravith
      My genetic test results have arrived - I’m homozygous for DQB1*02, meaning I have HLA-DQ2. I’ve read that this is one of the genes most strongly associated with celiac disease, and my symptoms are very clear. I’m relieved that the results finally arrived, as I was getting quite worried since my symptoms have been getting worse. Next step, blood test. What do these results imply? What should I tell my family? I’m concerned that this genetic predisposition might also affect other family members.
    • Roses8721
      Two months. In extreme situations like this where it’s clearly a smoking gun? I’m in LA so went to a very big hospital for pcp and gi and nutritionist 
    • rei.b
      So far 3 months in - worsening symptoms. I have had the worst constipation in my life and I am primarily eating naturally gluten-free foods like potatoes, eggs, salad with homemade dressing, corn tortillas, etc. I hate gluten-free bread and pasta so I don't eat it. Occasionally I eat gluten-free almond flour crackers. As stated in the post, I don't have any vitamin deficiency. I was already tested.
    • rei.b
      As I said, I do not have any vitamin deficiency. I was already tested.
    • Wheatwacked
      Talk to your  Talk to your provider about testing for vitamin and mineral deficiency.  celiac disease causes malabsorption and eventually malnutrition.  Especially vitamin D. Having the gallbladder removed seems to be a common step on the way to a Celiac Disease Diagnosis,  Gallbladder is a sympton of deficient Choline. Eggs and red meat are the primary source..Choline makes up a majority of the bile salts.  The bile gets thick, doesn't get enough into intestine to digest fats well.  Can eventually back up into gallbladder, cause gallstones.  Without bile, bowel movements can become hard. Try to avoid all processed foods while you are healing, The gluten-free foods are not fortified with vitamins and use various ingredients to mimic fat that bothers many Celiacs.  Choose vegatables with low omega 6.  Optimum omega 6 to omega 3 ratio is less than 3:1.  Wheat flour is 22:1.  Grass fed milk is 1:1.   Commercial Dairies milk is 5:1.  They feed wheat, rye and barley Gluten as part of the food mix.  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.