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Okay, so I travel like 20 or 30 miles yesterday to go to whole foods market and get some gluten free stuf.

I got an all purpose gluten-free baking mix (bobs red mill) and now I find out I need xanthan or guar gum to make everything hold together:-(

I just wanna make muffins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Whaaaaa!

What's a gal to do!

Rebecca

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Sweetfudge Community Regular
Sweetfudge
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sounds like my first gluten-free grocery days. i don't know what to tell you but i'm sure soemone on here will. don't eggs help hold things together?

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Mango04
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What kind of muffins are you making? If they happen to have bananna you should be okay w/o the gum. Extra eggs might work too.

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What kind of muffins are you making? If they happen to have bananna you should be okay w/o the gum. Extra eggs might work too.

Here is the recipe I am trying to modify. It has a lot, a lot of liquid. I've only made it with regular flour. Its a heavy muffin so maybe it would hold together. I don't know though.

1 cup reg flour

1 cup whole wheat flour

1 cup oats

1/4 cup flax seed

2 tsp baking powder

1 tsp baking soda

1/2 teaspoon salt

1 cup yogurt

1 egg

1/4 cup olive oil

1/4 cup of milk, orange juice or other juice

1 cup of applesauce or pumpkin puree or mashed banana

1/2 or 1 cup of any kind of fruit. Berries(frozen or dried), raisins, chopped apples, tangerines etc

1/4 to 1/2 cup of walnuts or any kind of nut or seed

I'll be replacing just the white and wheat flour. I do okay with oats.

Mango04 Enthusiast
Mango04
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Here is the recipe I am trying to modify. It has a lot, a lot of liquid. I've only made it with regular flour. Its a heavy muffin so maybe it would hold together. I don't know though.

1 cup reg flour

1 cup whole wheat flour

1 cup oats

1/4 cup flax seed

2 tsp baking powder

1 tsp baking soda

1/2 teaspoon salt

1 cup yogurt

1 egg

1/4 cup olive oil

1/4 cup of milk, orange juice or other juice

1 cup of applesauce or pumpkin puree or mashed banana

1/2 or 1 cup of any kind of fruit. Berries(frozen or dried), raisins, chopped apples, tangerines etc

1/4 to 1/2 cup of walnuts or any kind of nut or seed

I'll be replacing just the white and wheat flour. I do okay with oats.

Yum :) Well I'm definitely not a baking expert, and I could be wrong, but I'd venture to guess that the muffins will be okay w/out the x. gum. It'd probably be a little better with it, but you can probably make due without.

ptkds Community Regular
ptkds
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Just an FYI ~ Oats in general don't always cause a problem in celiacs. They are "forbidden" because they are often grown in fields that have been used to grow wheat, and they are processed on the same equipment as wheat. So there is a MAJOR cross-contamination issue. Oats often contain a trace amount of wheat. So you should not be eating them unless they are labeled as "gluten-free." You can find those online or at some specialty stores, but they can be pretty expensive.

ptkds

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Nantzie
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I heard that extra egg yolk(s) are supposed to help bind things together.

One of our traditional Christmas cookie recipes uses 2 whole eggs and 6 egg yolks. It's like rolling out rubber bands. So you might want to try adding an extra egg yolk or two and see how that works.

Nancy

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Just an FYI ~ Oats in general don't always cause a problem in celiacs. They are "forbidden" because they are often grown in fields that have been used to grow wheat, and they are processed on the same equipment as wheat. So there is a MAJOR cross-contamination issue. Oats often contain a trace amount of wheat. So you should not be eating them unless they are labeled as "gluten-free." You can find those online or at some specialty stores, but they can be pretty expensive.

ptkds

I haven't had any issues with oats. I don't think I'm sensitive to small amounts of gluten. I guess I have to have a moderate amount to experience symptoms. So far with the elimination diet, I discovered I am able to tolerate oats. Just not bread, cereal, biscuits etc. Of course I haven't gotten myself all figured out yet, but I am working on it :-)

The muffins turned out good. I forgot to write sugar and cinnamon in my recipe above. Oops. They were a lot more moist using the gluten-free flour. I may need to reduce the liquid. The flavor was different, not bad just different. And they filled us up. Everybody had just one muffin. That's unusual!

Just thought I would share! i think it would definetly worth it to try this recipe with the xanthan or guar and see how it turns out.

I'm happy now, I had my muffins:-)

angel-jd1 Community Regular
angel-jd1
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I haven't had any issues with oats. I don't think I'm sensitive to small amounts of gluten. I guess I have to have a moderate amount to experience symptoms. So far with the elimination diet, I discovered I am able to tolerate oats. Just not bread, cereal, biscuits etc. Of course I haven't gotten myself all figured out yet, but I am working on it :-)

The muffins turned out good. I forgot to write sugar and cinnamon in my recipe above. Oops. They were a lot more moist using the gluten-free flour. I may need to reduce the liquid. The flavor was different, not bad just different. And they filled us up. Everybody had just one muffin. That's unusual!

Just thought I would share! i think it would definetly worth it to try this recipe with the xanthan or guar and see how it turns out.

I'm happy now, I had my muffins:-)

Symptoms or no symptoms any amount of gluten you are ingesting is doing damage to your intestines. Many people with celiac are completely asymptomatic (no symptoms), however they still have the damage. I would hate for you to continue damaging your insides over something as silly as oats. Please be careful!!

-Jessica :rolleyes:

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Symptoms or no symptoms any amount of gluten you are ingesting is doing damage to your intestines. Many people with celiac are completely asymptomatic (no symptoms), however they still have the damage. I would hate for you to continue damaging your insides over something as silly as oats. Please be careful!!

-Jessica :rolleyes:

Good point, Jessica :-)

However, I don't even know if I have celiac yet! Blood test came back in normal ranges. Still need a colon. but need to wait to get insurance reinstated before I can even think about doing that:-0 I'm doing the best I can right now based on the conclusions of the elimination diet.

So let me ask you this question, is it possible to NOT have celiac but still have a gluten sensitivity. In that case, I wonder if the reaction, even though it's not celiac, is still capable of causing significant damage.

Hmmm, may wanna write that one down for the doc too.

angel-jd1 Community Regular
angel-jd1
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Good point, Jessica :-)

However, I don't even know if I have celiac yet! Blood test came back in normal ranges. Still need a colon. but need to wait to get insurance reinstated before I can even think about doing that:-0 I'm doing the best I can right now based on the conclusions of the elimination diet.

So let me ask you this question, is it possible to NOT have celiac but still have a gluten sensitivity. In that case, I wonder if the reaction, even though it's not celiac, is still capable of causing significant damage.

Hmmm, may wanna write that one down for the doc too.

Yes, I do believe it is. :) I wish you luck in finding out what is going on. Sure is frustrating isn't it? :blink:

-Jessica :rolleyes:

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tarnalberry
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Okay, so I travel like 20 or 30 miles yesterday to go to whole foods market and get some gluten free stuf.

I got an all purpose gluten-free baking mix (bobs red mill) and now I find out I need xanthan or guar gum to make everything hold together:-(

I just wanna make muffins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Whaaaaa!

What's a gal to do!

Rebecca

you don't need gums for muffins. I never use it in my recipes - keep looking around at different recipes. some people like it, some don't care.

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Also, you can buy Bob's redmill products at most normal grocery stores now-a-days. Including xantham gum.

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