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Lins Rookie

Hi!!

I'm so thankful to have a message board to go to! I was confirmed to have Celiac earlier this week, after blood tests and a biopsy. I've gotten the Gluten-Free for Dummies book and am learning a lot and appreciate her humor. As far as I know, I have been gluten-free since last Friday. And I have some questions if you would be so kind...

I gained weight prior to diagnosis. Have any of you lost weight? Like in just a couple of days?? I could see where I would lose weight what with only eating fruits, veggies, lean meats, ets. But it seems to be making a huge difference very quickly.

Am I detoxing simply by being gluten free? My hair is different and my skin is different.

What's the deal with modified food starch?

Oatmeal is just a bad idea, right?

What good cereals have you tried?? (I miss my cereal. :( )

I know I had more questions swirling around, but am at a loss right now. While the thought of no more pizza from my favorite local joint is a bummer, I can't help but be very excited about feeling better! I was lucky enough to be diagnosed within a month of seeing a doctor, although I waited for over a year before seeking help. Still, I see from research that people suffer for YEARS!

I look forward to the info, and hope I can get to a point where I can offer some advice too. Thanks in advance all!

Lins


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Welcome Lins,

Yes it is a bit overwhelming in the beginning. Just take a deep breath and relax. Some here have lost weight and some have gained. Did you know you can still eat cereal. The main items you need to avoid are wheat, rye, barly, malt and regular oats. Rice Krispies contain malt. You can also buy gluten free pizza crusts and pizza so you don't have to give it up.

Again welcome and ask the questions.

Susan

Lisa Mentor

Welcom to the Board Lins!

This diet is very confusing in the beginning. Feel free to ask away.

Modified food starch (in the US) is general corn derived, unless it is listed as Modified Food Starch (wheat).

Oat are not recommended because of the potential of cross contamination in the processing.

There are many cereals that are available (I don't eat cereal, but others will post).

Dairy often causes problems in the beginning and it is recommended to be dairy light of eliminate it all together and re-introduce it after you have healed.

Don't forget to check you shampoos, lotions, lipsticks, etc....any thing that can find its way into your mouth.

The diet is hard in the beginning, but soon it will become second nature.

dionnek Enthusiast

In the US, modified food starch would have to say "wheat" if it contains wheat. Most is made from corn. It could theoretically be made from barely or rye, but I don't think any is (Richard knows more about this, but if it says modified food starch and does not say wheat anywhere, then I will eat it).

Oatmeal has lots of different issues - mainly CC in the processing/growing, but I've also seen research that says even gluten-free oats might cause some celiacs problems. I haven't tried any oatmeal since my dx 1 year ago, but some on here eat it all the time.

Cocoa Pebbles and Fruity Pebbles (and Trix I think) are gluten free cereals. Also Dora, Little Einsteins, and Micky Mouse Clubhouse are gluten-free (they are fairly new). Make sure yu read ingredients every time though, b/c they can change (as Trix has been known to do quite often!). I buy the Nature's Path gluten-free cornflakes and Erawhon (sp?) puffed rice (just like rice krispies) off of amazon - they are much cheaper and free shipping. Envirodiz has several gluten-free cereals, but I don't like any of them for some reason. many people do though. I haven't found any of the gluten-free cheerio replacements to be edible- my 2 1/2 yr. old won't eat them either, but some people love them. You pretty much just have to try things yourself, b/c as you'll find out everyone's tastes are very different :)

Karen B. Explorer

If you have a favorite food that you're looking for a gluten-free replacement, post it here. This is a great place to find out stuff like that. It seems overwhelming at first but it gets easier. What made it easier for me was finding gluten-free food lists on my favorite fast food places and the Hormel gluten-free list convinced me I didn't have to go back to the Little House on the Prairie to make food, I could have easy things to eat (Open Original Shared Link). They do make gluten-free oats but my favorite hot cereal is instant quinoa (Open Original Shared Link). There are lots of cold cereals.

Don't forget things like toasters, waffle irons and other kitchen items that can hold crumbs from previous glutened items. Also, my sneaky hubby had to prove to me that he could make me sick by eating gluten and kissing me before brushing his teeth. Check any pills you take, the melatonin I was getting from GNC was not gluten-free and gave me a rash.

The best news is you have an answer and, unlike many people with other health conditions, you don't have to take a pill with unknown side-effects to keep you healthy. You will be amazed by how much better you feel.

Good Luck!

Kim Clayton Newbie
Hi!!

I'm so thankful to have a message board to go to! I was confirmed to have Celiac earlier this week, after blood tests and a biopsy. I've gotten the Gluten-Free for Dummies book and am learning a lot and appreciate her humor. As far as I know, I have been gluten-free since last Friday. And I have some questions if you would be so kind...

I gained weight prior to diagnosis. Have any of you lost weight? Like in just a couple of days?? I could see where I would lose weight what with only eating fruits, veggies, lean meats, ets. But it seems to be making a huge difference very quickly.

Am I detoxing simply by being gluten free? My hair is different and my skin is different.

What's the deal with modified food starch?

Oatmeal is just a bad idea, right?

What good cereals have you tried?? (I miss my cereal. :( )

I know I had more questions swirling around, but am at a loss right now. While the thought of no more pizza from my favorite local joint is a bummer, I can't help but be very excited about feeling better! I was lucky enough to be diagnosed within a month of seeing a doctor, although I waited for over a year before seeking help. Still, I see from research that people suffer for YEARS!

I look forward to the info, and hope I can get to a point where I can offer some advice too. Thanks in advance all!

Lins

Emily Elizabeth Enthusiast
What good cereals have you tried?? (I miss my cereal. :( )

Lins

I was just diagnosed on the 15th so I'm in the same boat. My weight seems to be jumping up and down slightly. I get SO hungry and lightheaded and foggy that sometimes I think I eat too much since eating seems to be the only cure. Then I barely eat anything because the way things are processing is not pleasant if you know what I mean. I can't wait to start feeling better and get on a comfortable regular diet again!

To answer your question about the cereals, I used to eat Kashi cereals and loved them. The ones that I have found now that I like (and they have fiber) are:

Mesa Sunrise - Open Original Shared Link free.com/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=958023

Cinnamon Crunch Granola - Open Original Shared Link free.com/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=958001

Puffins Honey Rice - Open Original Shared Link

Nutty Flax - Open Original Shared Link

I hope this is helpful!


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Emily Elizabeth Enthusiast

Okay, you may want to scratch the Nutty Flax. I just found this post on it. I'm still not feeling better so I can't tell what's doing it just yet.

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Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular

Ya gotta read the label on the Puffins, too--most of them do contain gluten.

tiredofdoctors Enthusiast

Hi Lins -- Welcome to the board! We were all in the same boat you are in at one time. It's confusing (to say the least), very frustrating and sometimes pretty scary. You have found the BEST place to find information and the most kind, caring people you will ever meet. Seriously. I started on the board two years ago, decided to go gluten-free two and a half months later (some people have really hard heads!) and don't know what I would have done had it not been for SEVERAL members on this board.

Whoever posted that Richard would be able to tell you more about (I can't remember what it was), they are right -- he is amazingly intelligent, but is able to put it in to a very understandable form.

With regard to cereal, I recommend Enviro-Kids Peanut Butter Panda Puffs. They are the BEST! Their Puffins cereal is pretty awesome, as well!!! They are also pretty much sugar-y (only with organic, healthy sugar) like kids cereal. I just bought some granola-type cereal from Whole Foods. It looks remarkably like the alfalfa blocks we fed our rabbit when we had it. Ick. It tastes pretty good, though! I'll take a gander at what the name is and post that, as well.

Welcome, and please know that you are not alone in your quest to be healthy. You will have a lot of people on whom you can rely upon for the best information and unbelievably good support. It's a journey, let me tell ya!

((((((((Hugs)))))))) to you,

Lynne

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"I gained weight prior to diagnosis. Have any of you lost weight? Like in just a couple of days?? I could see where I would lose weight what with only eating fruits, veggies, lean meats, ets. But it seems to be making a huge difference very quickly.

Am I detoxing simply by being gluten free? My hair is different and my skin is different.

What's the deal with modified food starch?

Oatmeal is just a bad idea, right?

What good cereals have you tried?? (I miss my cereal. )"

1. Losing and gaining weight are both symptoms that occur both pre and post diagnosis. When I was diagnosed (and after going gluten free), I lost 25 pounds in three months.

2. Yes, you are detoxing from gluten. Gluten has been known to have "drug-like effects on people. It is normal for your body to crave it and to go through some adjustments after going gluten free. My hair and skin got healthier after a year of gluten free. It happens.

3. Most modified food starch is corn based and ok (although you should check when unsure). If the food starch has wheat in it, it will say so on the label per 2006 food allergen laws.

4. Oatmeal is off the list unless you get gluten free oatmeal (not Quaker Oats)

5. For good cereal, I eat Fruity Pebbles, Cocoa Pebbles, Envirokidz Frosted Flakes and Bob's Red Mill Hot Rice Cereal (with cinnamon and syrup).

Hope this helps,

BB

fletch84 Newbie

I am in the exact same position as you, I was recently diagnosed (about 2 weeks ago) and my mom took me on a HUGE shopping trip to Whole Foods to stock up on Gluten-Free foods.

Amy's makes tons of Gluten-Free foods, and they actually make a delicious gluten-free pizza...their website is here: Open Original Shared Link

I hope that helps a bit :)

Emily Elizabeth Enthusiast
Ya gotta read the label on the Puffins, too--most of them do contain gluten.

Supposedly the honey rice is gluten free. At least they advertise it as such on their website:

Open Original Shared Link

I still can't tell what is giving me problems since I have yet to be healed.

Lins Rookie

Wow you guys!

Thanks so much for the information!! I joined the Prevention forums a few years back to lose weight on the South Beach diet and I've got the same warm fuzzy feeling here as I get there!!

I'd forgotten I asked about the modified food starch already. I just had a smoothie and the yogurt had it in it and I'd worked myself up about it and was expecting the worst! So I guess I can relax. We're headed to my MIL's this afternoon and after hearing her menu, I'll be packing a lunch, lol. Although I have to admit my tossed salad with fresh shrimp and papaya poppyseed dressing sounds way better than her sloppy joes and chips!!

I found some of the cereals you all mentioned at my Kroger's store. That's also where I got my salad dressings. I carry a big purse and I can totally see me toting a bottle of it with me! I DID have to hold myself back from buying one of everything gluten-free though. I decided I didn't keep lots of cake and pancake mixes in my pre-gluten free life, so why start now???

Hope you feel better soon Emily Elizabeth. Thanks to you all and have a great weekend!!

Lins

janjal Newbie

Hi, I found out that I had celiac's four month's ago. I was one of those long time sufferers. I have most likely had it for over 14 years. Have been tested for every thing. The one gastro doctor said that I had IBS. For years my blood work was always off. My liver enzymes were always high but not high enough to be super alarmed. My regular doctor retired and my new one is the one who figured out what was wrong. I love her. Went to a different gastro doc. had the biopsy to confirm.

This is totally a new way of life for eating. I am married with two teenage daughters. I am the only one with celiac. I have to be creative with my cooking. It is still a learning experience. I too read the celiac for dummies cover to cover.

As for cereals my favorite is Nabisco Cream of Rice. You can get that in the regular grocery store. I have tried different kinds of cold ones. So far Wegman's has a corn flakes with strawberries that is good. I also eat cereal bars from Glutino and Enjoy Life. Those I get in Whole Foods.

This site has been a great support for me also.

It will take time. Feel better

JJ

NoGluGirl Contributor
Hi!!

I'm so thankful to have a message board to go to! I was confirmed to have Celiac earlier this week, after blood tests and a biopsy. I've gotten the Gluten-Free for Dummies book and am learning a lot and appreciate her humor. As far as I know, I have been gluten-free since last Friday. And I have some questions if you would be so kind...

I gained weight prior to diagnosis. Have any of you lost weight? Like in just a couple of days?? I could see where I would lose weight what with only eating fruits, veggies, lean meats, ets. But it seems to be making a huge difference very quickly.

Am I detoxing simply by being gluten free? My hair is different and my skin is different.

What's the deal with modified food starch?

Oatmeal is just a bad idea, right?

What good cereals have you tried?? (I miss my cereal. :( )

I know I had more questions swirling around, but am at a loss right now. While the thought of no more pizza from my favorite local joint is a bummer, I can't help but be very excited about feeling better! I was lucky enough to be diagnosed within a month of seeing a doctor, although I waited for over a year before seeking help. Still, I see from research that people suffer for YEARS!

I look forward to the info, and hope I can get to a point where I can offer some advice too. Thanks in advance all!

Lins

Dear Lins,

I have a list that should really help. This is overwhelming. I went through this with myself six months ago. You spend most of your day cooking and cleaning obsessively. The rest you are on the phone with reps from companies trying to find out what is safe. I decided to save you the trouble!

1. There are a number of things in the regular grocery that are safe. Some things are labeled already. Wal-Mart's Great Value brand has numerous things you can eat.

2. For the love of God use Coupons on items you are allowed to eat. People can get them and print them out online even. Call some of the local stores and ask if they accept online coupons.

3. Check the ads online and in the newspaper. You would be surprised how many people do not do this.

4. Some items like rice flour and rice noodles are safe to buy at the Chinese or oriental market. The merchants are more than happy to help you if you cannot read the label.

Now, here is my list of great things to get you started:

Condiments:

Smart Balance Margerine*

Crisco Shortening

Crisco Oil

Pompeiian Olive Oil

Great Value soy sauce

Heinz Ketchup

Lea & Perrins Worchestershire Sauce (all Lea & Perrins Products are safe)

Sweet Baby Ray's Barbecue Sauce

Kraft French Fat-Free Salad Dressing

Kraft Thousand Island Fat-Free Salad Dressing

Pace Picante Sauce

Ortega Salsa

All Classico Red and *White sauces

All Jif Peanut Butters including Smooth Sensations

Welch's Grape Jelly

Cool Whip*

Philadelphia Cream Cheese*

Jell-O Pudding Cups* (Are made by Kraft, clearly labeled if gluten is present)

Yoplait Yogurts* (Includes Whips! The best is the Latte! Gluten is clearly labeled if present)

Miracle Whip

Daisy Sour Cream (fat-free, low-fat, regular)*

Snack Foods:

Utz Potato Chips (Found at Sam

Emily Elizabeth Enthusiast
I have a list that should really help.

Bless you for posting this! I am so tired of reading labels (I'm a newbie as well), this is very helpful!

Karen B. Explorer
Bless you for posting this! I am so tired of reading labels (I'm a newbie as well), this is very helpful!

At first, you are better off eating fresh foods you prepare yourself. But I hit spots where I was away from home and had to find something to eat. It's better to be prepared, take a lunch, stash some Lara bars. One trick I use now when traveling (by car) is to stop by a Kroger deli counter and order a 1/4 lb. of Boars Head and pick up some fresh fruit to go with it. All Boars Head meat is gluten-free, you just have to ask the deli person to clean the cutter before slicing yours. One thing I've always been pleasantly surprised on is how helpful and kind people are when you let them know what you need.

We all know Outback Steakhouse and PF Chang's are Celiac friendly and have gluten-free menus onlne. So does Chili's (Open Original Shared Link) and several others.

If you decide to try fast food, be aware that you're safer talking to a manager and going at off hours. Even then, it's not as safe as an expensive restaurant. But sometimes, you need to know where you can get safe food when you aren't at home. (sometimes, fast food is all that's available) I keep a small folder in my car of the current gluten-free menus from restaurants and fast food places.

Wendy's Gluten Free Menu

Open Original Shared Link

McDonald's Gluten Free Menu

Open Original Shared Link

Sonic and Taco Bell, I've heard iffy things about them so I'm not listing them. Someone else may have a different view. I go to Taco Cabana and rarely have problems, but that may be that the local place knows me so well. Most of the places I've emailed have been very helpful.

Find out if you have a local Celiac Support Group, they can really help you through this and they know all the good local spots.

Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

NoGluGirl Contributor
Bless you for posting this! I am so tired of reading labels (I'm a newbie as well), this is very helpful!

Dear Emily Elizabeth,

You are so welcome! I know what you are going through. It is so hard! I want to make this transition as easy as possible for others. I have been gluten-free since August of last year. I had to spend so much time worrying and calling. I thought I was going to go crazy!

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

NoGluGirl Contributor
At first, you are better off eating fresh foods you prepare yourself. But I hit spots where I was away from home and had to find something to eat. It's better to be prepared, take a lunch, stash some Lara bars. One trick I use now when traveling (by car) is to stop by a Kroger deli counter and order a 1/4 lb. of Boars Head and pick up some fresh fruit to go with it. All Boars Head meat is gluten-free, you just have to ask the deli person to clean the cutter before slicing yours. One thing I've always been pleasantly surprised on is how helpful and kind people are when you let them know what you need.

We all know Outback Steakhouse and PF Chang's are Celiac friendly and have gluten-free menus onlne. So does Chili's (Open Original Shared Link) and several others.

If you decide to try fast food, be aware that you're safer talking to a manager and going at off hours. Even then, it's not as safe as an expensive restaurant. But sometimes, you need to know where you can get safe food when you aren't at home. (sometimes, fast food is all that's available) I keep a small folder in my car of the current gluten-free menus from restaurants and fast food places.

Wendy's Gluten Free Menu

Open Original Shared Link

McDonald's Gluten Free Menu

Open Original Shared Link

Sonic and Taco Bell, I've heard iffy things about them so I'm not listing them. Someone else may have a different view. I go to Taco Cabana and rarely have problems, but that may be that the local place knows me so well. Most of the places I've emailed have been very helpful.

Find out if you have a local Celiac Support Group, they can really help you through this and they know all the good local spots.

Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

Dear Karen,

I agree that Emily should eat purer foods when possible. In the beginning, your system is more sensitive. You have to do it a little at a time. I was ecstatic there were things I could have that are not something I have to cook myself! It is exhausting having to make everything if you are like me and on a budget. I must say that if people can buy everything organic, it is best. I would if I could!

Thank you for posting the gluten-free lists for Wendy's and MacDonald's! I do not know if I will ever be brave enough to attempt eating out, though! I am scared to death of cc! I have too violent a reaction to gluten! Unless I can actually stand over the people preparing the food, I don't feel I can trust them! They do not understand the protocol.

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

grey Explorer

Hi, I was just confirmed to have celiac last week after blood tests & biopsy and am just going gluten-free too (started thurs).

I've tried the Mesa Sunrise cereal and I LOVED it. I tried making quinoa flakes as a warm cereal this morning (miss my oatmeal!), with a pinch of salt and some brown sugar, but it came out with the consistency & taste of cream corn. Now, I like cream corn, so I ate it, but I hope to find a better recipe than the package directions.

I haven't noticed a weight change, but I do have more energy. Enough so that I have insomnia.

It's nice that there's a bunch of us starting gluten-free at the same time!

Lisa Mentor
At first, you are better off eating fresh foods you prepare yourself. But I hit spots where I was away from home and had to find something to eat. It's better to be prepared, take a lunch, stash some Lara bars. One trick I use now when traveling (by car) is to stop by a Kroger deli counter and order a 1/4 lb. of Boars Head and pick up some fresh fruit to go with it. All Boars Head meat is gluten-free, you just have to ask the deli person to clean the cutter before slicing yours. One thing I've always been pleasantly surprised on is how helpful and kind people are when you let them know what you need.

We all know Outback Steakhouse and PF Chang's are Celiac friendly and have gluten-free menus onlne. So does Chili's (Open Original Shared Link) and several others.

If you decide to try fast food, be aware that you're safer talking to a manager and going at off hours. Even then, it's not as safe as an expensive restaurant. But sometimes, you need to know where you can get safe food when you aren't at home. (sometimes, fast food is all that's available) I keep a small folder in my car of the current gluten-free menus from restaurants and fast food places.

Wendy's Gluten Free Menu

Open Original Shared Link

McDonald's Gluten Free Menu

Open Original Shared Link

Sonic and Taco Bell, I've heard iffy things about them so I'm not listing them. Someone else may have a different view. I go to Taco Cabana and rarely have problems, but that may be that the local place knows me so well. Most of the places I've emailed have been very helpful.

Find out if you have a local Celiac Support Group, they can really help you through this and they know all the good local spots.

Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

:ph34r: Just want to throw a bit of caution regarding McD's fries - with a very, very extended debate, it was concluded that the fries should be attempted at your own risk.....now slowly backing out the door and ending this discussion regarding french fries.

NoGluGirl Contributor
:ph34r: Just want to throw a bit of caution regarding McD's fries - with a very, very extended debate, it was concluded that the fries should be attempted at your own risk.....now slowly backing out the door and ending this discussion regarding french fries.

Dear Momma Goose,

I won't risk it. I am too sensitive. I get too sick. It is so not worth the misery! I loved their fries, but think a safer bet is to get Todd Wilbur's Top Secret Recipes books and do the fries according the recipe, sans gluten. That is the smarter idea.

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

Emily Elizabeth Enthusiast
Dear Karen,

I agree that Emily should eat purer foods when possible. In the beginning, your system is more sensitive. You have to do it a little at a time. I was ecstatic there were things I could have that are not something I have to cook myself! It is exhausting having to make everything if you are like me and on a budget. I must say that if people can buy everything organic, it is best. I would if I could!

Thank you for posting the gluten-free lists for Wendy's and MacDonald's! I do not know if I will ever be brave enough to attempt eating out, though! I am scared to death of cc! I have too violent a reaction to gluten! Unless I can actually stand over the people preparing the food, I don't feel I can trust them! They do not understand the protocol.

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

I think both Karen and NoGluGirl are right about needing to eat purer foods. I think I was focusing so much on what I wasn't allowed to eat, that it made me want to eat it all the time. I spent most of my day either at multiple grocery stores or in my kitchen cooking (I still haven't found sweet rice flour - want to make a pie for dad's b'day). I have to say that I did start feeling better midday. For lunch I made an egg white omelet with spinach, red peppers, onions and mushrooms (delicious) and for dinner I made a pot roast with Kraft Catalina dressing potatoes, onions and carrots. Then I started preparing the Memorial Day food for tomorrow which was potato salad and corn macaroni salad made with gluten free mayonnaise of course. Then I made some vegetable bruschetta (not sure what I'm going to eat that on just yet).

I really had to fight the urge to eat processed foods like gluten free crackers and Tostitos though! I had broccoli and cauliflower instead and that calmed down my cravings. It's definitely worth it if I start feeling better. And like you all said, you can add things back in later (that's what I will keep telling myself). I just hope I can keep this up when I head back to work on Tuesday. Do you all think that home made gluten free bread will be okay or is that something that I should hold off on too? PB & J's are great to take to work for a quick fix to stop the fatigue and fogginess.

Thanks Karen for your list as well! That will be very helpful when I am on the road and have run out of lara bars (I love them!). It's also great to hear about the Boars Head meats too.

I'm not sure if I have diverted too far from the original topic here so I apologize if I have. I'm a newbie to the whole forum thing too! :unsure:

Emily Elizabeth Enthusiast
It's nice that there's a bunch of us starting gluten-free at the same time!

It definitely is. It's really helpful to hear that other people are going through the same thing with the same symptoms. Some of my family members are questioning whether or not I have celiac disease since I'm not miraculously better right away. I explain that many others have the same symptoms I do and have been diagnosed and are attempting to be gluten free as well. The advice about how to clean out your kitchen and get rid of hidden gluten in your lifestyle is helpful as well. I think some of my family members don't believe that even a small amount of gluten will cause me to remain sick. I get the feeling that they think I'm overly paranoid since I'm checking my shampoos and lipsticks and hairsprays. It's great to talk with people who understand and can provide helpful advice.

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      I have osteopenia and have cracked three vertebrae.  Niacin is connected to osteoporosis! Do talk to your nutritionist and doctor about supplementing with B vitamins.  Blood tests don't reveal the amount of vitamins stored inside cells.  The blood is a transportation system and can reflect vitamins absorbed from food eaten in the previous twenty-four to forty-eight hours.  Those "normal limits" are based on minimum amounts required to prevent disease, not levels for optimal health.   Keep us posted on your progress.   B Vitamins: Functions and Uses in Medicine https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9662251/ Association of dietary niacin intake with osteoporosis in the postmenopausal women in the US: NHANES 2007–2018 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11835798/ Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/   Nutritional Imbalances in Adult Celiac Patients Following a Gluten-Free Diet https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8398893/ Nutritional Consequences of Celiac Disease and Gluten-Free Diet https://www.mdpi.com/2036-7422/15/4/61 Simplifying the B Complex: How Vitamins B6 and B9 Modulate One Carbon Metabolism in Cancer and Beyond https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9609401/
    • JudyLou
      Thank you so much for the clarification! Yes to these questions: Have you consulted dietician?  Have you been checked for nutritional deficiencies?  Osteoporosis? Thyroid? Anemia?  Do you take any supplements, or vitamins? I’m within healthy range for nutritional tests, thyroid and am not anemic. I do have osteopenia. I don’t take any medications, and the dietician was actually a nutritionist (not sure if that is the same thing) recommended by my physician at the time to better understand gluten free eating.    I almost wish the gluten exposure had triggered something, so at least I’d know what’s going on. So confusing!    Many thanks! 
    • knitty kitty
      @JudyLou,  I have dermatitis herpetiformis, too!  And...big drum roll... Niacin improves dermatitis herpetiformis!   Niacin is very important to skin health and intestinal health.   You're correct.  dermatitis herpetiformis usually occurs on extensor muscles, but dermatitis herpetiformis is also pressure sensitive, so blisters can form where clothing puts pressure on the skin. Elastic waist bands, bulky seams on clothing, watch bands, hats.  Rolled up sleeves or my purse hanging on my arm would make me break out on the insides of my elbows.  I have had a blister on my finger where my pen rested as I write.  Foods high in Iodine can cause an outbreak and exacerbate dermatitis herpetiformis. You've been on the gluten free diet for a long time.  Our gluten free diet can be low in vitamins and minerals, especially if processed gluten free foods are consumed.  Those aren't fortified with vitamins like gluten containing products are.  Have you consulted dietician?  Have you been checked for nutritional deficiencies?  Osteoporosis? Thyroid? Anemia?  Do you take any supplements, medicine, or vitamins? Niacin deficiency is connected to anemia.  Anemia can cause false negatives on tTg IgA tests.  A person can be on that borderline where symptoms wax and wane for years, surviving, but not thriving.  We have a higher metabolic need for more nutrients when we're sick or emotionally stressed which can deplete the small amount of vitamins we can store in our bodies and symptoms reappear.   Exposure to gluten (and casein in those sensitive to it) can cause an increased immune response and inflammation for months afterwards. The immune cells that make tTg IgA antibodies which are triggered today are going to live for about two years. During that time, inflammation is heightened.  Those immune cells only replicate when triggered.  If those immune cells don't get triggered again for about two years, they die without leaving any descendents programmed to trigger on gluten and casein.  The immune system forgets gluten and casein need to be attacked.  The Celiac genes turn off.  This is remission.    Some people in remission report being able to consume gluten again without consequence.   However, another triggering event can turn the Celiac genes on again.   Celiac genes are turned on by a triggering event (physical or emotional stress).  There's some evidence that thiamine insufficiency contributes to the turning on of autoimmune genes.  There is an increased biological need for thiamine when we are physically or emotionally stressed.  Thiamine cannot be stored for more than twenty-one days and may be depleted in as little as three during physical and emotional stresses. Mitochondria without sufficient thiamine become damaged and don't function properly.  This gets relayed to the genes and autoimmune disease genes turn on.  Thiamine and other B vitamins, minerals, and other nutrients are needed to replace the dysfunctional mitochondria and repair the damage to the body.   I recommend getting checked for vitamin and mineral deficiencies.  More than just Vitamin D and B12.  A gluten challenge would definitely be a stressor capable of precipitating further vitamin deficiencies and health consequences.   Best wishes!    
    • trents
      And I agree with Wheatwacked. When a physician tells you that you can't have celiac disease because you're not losing weight, you can be certain that doctor is operating on a dated understanding of celiac disease. I assume you are in the UK by the way you spelled "coeliac". So, I'm not sure what your options are when it comes to healthcare, but I might suggest you look for another physician who is more up to date in this area and is willing to work with you to get an accurate diagnosis. If, in fact, you do not have celiac disease but you know that gluten causes you problems, you might have NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity). There is no test available yet for NCGS. Celiac must first be ruled out. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder that damages the lining of the small bowel. NCGS we is not autoimmune and we know less about it's true nature. But we do know it is considerably more common than celiac disease.
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