Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Do Any Celiac Symptoms Correlate To Pesticide Effect?


CCM

Recommended Posts

CCM Rookie

I am a newbie to this, please point me in the right direction if answers on this topic already exist.

I have been dealing with celiac symptoms over the past year. My blood work and endoscopy came up negative; however, all my symptoms say "yes." Going gluten-free makes me feel much better. I am transitioning to that now, however, my GI doc suggested organic wheat first in case the chemicals were bothering me. Lo and behold, I am able to tolerate organic bread.

My questions:

Is there any research linking gluten sensitivity symptoms to the effects of pesticides?

Without the blood work or biopsies positive, can I still be diagnosed as gluten "sensitive" or "intolerant" (is there a difference between these two terms?) by the gluten-free diet alone?

If any one can recommend a good doctor in SLC, UT, by the way, that would help too!

Look forward to your responses.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



CarlaB Enthusiast

Maybe you don't actually have celiac, rather have chemical sensitivities. If you had celiac disease, it wouldn't matter whether the wheat was organic or not.

lightening16 Rookie

Hey

I hate to tell you this but wheat is rarely sprayed with any pesticides and if it is then it is for a fungal disease that is so toxic to humans ( the fungal wheat disease that is) that wheat that gets this disease and is harvested is actually considered toxic waste. They only spray for this when weather conditions are exactly right... once every 4-5 years at the most and only in specific areas not all .The only thing that might be sprayed on wheat would be herbicide that has fairly low human toxicity and sprayed very early in the season. So what I am saying is that pesticide residues in wheat are actually nil even when they are not organic.

CCM Rookie

I do have a past history of chemical sensitivity so that part would not surprise me, but the gluten sensitivity symptoms and the fact that I respond positively to a gluten free diet is all new to me. I am wondering if the chemical sensitivity is just the trigger my body needs to start me down that path. I also have not paid much attention to determining my exact symptoms after ingesting barley or rye. I pay more attention to wheat because the symptoms are most noticeable. So I have some work to do still.

I am wondering if I go gluten-free for a few days, would that have been long enough for me to handle any wheat organic or not, if I am just gluten sensitive...I don't understand whether or not folks find a certain personal threshold of tolerance...or are we just fooling ourselves and damaging our bodies anyway?

Would lightning16 please share where I can learn more regarding his/her comment about wheat and the pesticides/herbicide use? I would love to read more online.

Thanks so much for such quick responses.

lightening16 Rookie

Hi again

My comments are from work experience and personal experience. I am not sure where you can read about this but I will look into it. I used to work for the Ontario government as a specialist in integrated pest management. So I worked with Traditional farmers, ecological farmers and organic farmers to find when pests would actually be in their fields. I have my masters in weed science and had many years training in agronomy. Currently, I work part time for a government agency that is involved in the registration of new products for use on crops. There are certain foods that I would rather consume that are organic and others that I would rather that they were grown by ecological farming practices over organic. OFten times organic also has "organic pesticides " sprayed on them as well. They are minerals such as sulfur and copper or naturally produced pesticides. Just because a plant produces the pesticide does not mean that it does have human toxicity.

Wheat is really not being sprayed often enough for there to be pesticide residues. If they spray it you want it to be sprayed as opposed to consuming grain infected with fusarium (which produces the DON toxin)

This is a site that helps predict when a Fusarium outbreak might occur Open Original Shared Link and here is a site that discussed DON

Open Original Shared Link

Hope this helps

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,165
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    AmynDevyn
    Newest Member
    AmynDevyn
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • JoJo0611
      Please can anyone help. I was diagnosed on 23rd December and I am trying my best to get my head around all the things to look out for. I have read that yeast extract is not to be eaten by coeliacs. Why? And is this all yeast extract. Or is this information wrong. Thanks. 
    • trents
      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @Seabeemee! The fact that the genetic testing shows you do not have either of the two genes associated with the potential to develop celiac disease (HlA DQ2 and HLA DQ8) pretty much ensures that you do not have celiac disease and the biopsy of the small bowel showing "normal villous architecture" confirms this. But you could have NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity) which would not damage the villous architecture. You could also have SIBO (Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth) or H. Pylori infection. Both of these conditions would thrive on carbs and you do say you feel better when you don't eat a lot of carbs. And with your resection of the small bowel, that could be causing it's own problems like you describe. When was that surgery done? You have had over 1 foot of your small bowel removed by that surgery in 2022 so that would certainly challenge digestion and nutrient absorption.  Edited
    • Seabeemee
      My Doctor messaged me that I have no sign of Celiac disease so until I meet with her next week I don’t know what the labs mean. I am being evaluated by my new GI for Celiac disease because of digestive issues (bloating, distention, fullness in mid section, diarrhea).  I also have been diagnosed with GERD and some associated issues hence the endoscopy. I also was diagnosed with NAFLD after an abdominal CT scan in December - which surprises me because I gave up alcohol 5 years ago, workout 5 days a week, cardio / weights and cook from scratch every night. Anecdotally,  I do feel better when I do not eat a lot of carbs and have been staying away from gluten 95% of the time until my follow up.  History: I had an emergency bowel obstruction operation in August 2021 for a double closed loop obstruction, open surgery removed 40 cm of my small intestine, my appendix, cecal valve and illeocectomy. Beside the fact that this put me in the situation of no longer being able to absorb Vitamin B12  from my diet and having to  inject Vit B 12 2x a month, I also became Iron deficient and am on EOD iron to keep my levels high enough to support my Vitamin B12 injections, as well as daily folic acid. I tested positive for pernicious anemia in 2022 but most recently that same test came back negative. Negative Intrinsic Factor. My results from the biopsies showed 2nd part of Duodenum, small bowel Mildly patch increased intraepithelial lymphocytes with intact villious architecture. Comment: Duodenal biopsies with normal villous architecture and increased intrepithelial lymphocytes (Marsh I lesion) are found in 1-3% of patients undergoing duodenal biopsy, and an association with celiac disease is well established however the specificity remains low. Similar histologic findings may be seen in H pylori gastritis, NSAID and other medication use including olmesartan, bacterial overgrowth, tropical sprue and certain autoimmune disorders. So my GI ordered Labs for Celiac confirmation: Sorry I couldn’t upload a photo or pdf so typed below: TEST NAME                               IN RANGE and/or RESULTS RESULTS:  IMMUNOGLOBULIN A :           110 GLIADIN (DEAMIDATED) AB (IGG, IGA)                            <1.0 GLIADIN (DEAMIDATED) AB (IGA)                                     <1.0 GLIADIN (DEAMIDATED) AB (IGG)                                    <1.0 TISSUE TRANSGLUTAMINASE ANTIBODY, IGG, IGA TISSUE TRANSGLUTAMINASE AB, IGG                                     <1.0 TISSUE TRANSGLUTAMINASE AB, IGA                                     <1.0 INTERPRETATION: <15.0 ANTIBODY NOT DETECTED  > OR = 15.0 ANTIBODY DETECTED RESULTS: HLA TYPING FOR CELIAC DISEASE INTERPRETATION (note The patient does not have the HLA-DQ associated with celiac disease variants) More than 97% of celiac patients carry either HLA-DQ2 (DQA1*05/DQB1*02) or HLA-DQ8 (DQA1*03/DQB1*0302) or both. Genetic counseling as needed. HLA DQ2 : NEGATIVE HLA D08: NEGATIVE HLA VARIANTS DETECTED: HLA DA1* : 01 HLA DA1* : 05 HLA DQB1*: 0301 HLA DQB1*: 0501 RESULTS REVIEWED BY: Benjamin A Hilton, Ph.D., FACMG I appreciate any input, thank you.         
    • trents
      Let me hasten to add that if you will be undergoing an endoscopy/biopsy, it is critical that you do not begin efforts to reduce gluten beforehand. Doing so will render the results invalid as it will allow the small bowel lining to heal and, therefore, obscure the damage done by celiac disease which is what the biopsy is looking for.
    • Scott Adams
      This article, and the comments below it, may be helpful:    
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.