Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Entero Lab Iga Results Negative


skikat

Recommended Posts

skikat Apprentice

Son is Celiac, spouse is Celiac. Had dtr tested (3 yrs old) through Enterolab and her tests came back in normal range for gluten, soy, and casein. The disclaimer did say that 1 in 500 people do not have the ability to produce IgA antibodies, so she must be one of these people. I think this because she had the ELISA IgG blood test for food sensitivities and it came back positive reactions to 24 different foods, including Wheat and cow's milk. My question is, how do you know for sure if someone doesn't have the ability to produce IgA antibodies. Is there a test? This is all so confusing.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



happygirl Collaborator

Yes, there is a blood test for IgA deficiency. You can ask your doctor to run it along with the full Celiac panel.

Soonerman Rookie
Yes, there is a blood test for IgA deficiency. You can ask your doctor to run it along with the full Celiac panel.

Is that the IgA Serum level that will demonstrate if you are IgA deficient?

skikat Apprentice

Thanks for clarifying. Not sure if the doctor will do the blood test, just for me because I am curious. Especially, now that her IgG was positive, I guess it doesn't really matter at this point that the IgA was negative. I have a feeling he would say, "we have the info we need to make changes" and it is probably not necessary to have 3 y.o. go through a blood draw again. I personally would like to know for sure, because I am trying to explain all this to family members and they think I am crazy now. Because, first I said her tests were negative and now they are positive. I tried to explain to them that it was testing for two different antibodies, one in the blood and one in the stool. I feel like they are doubting me now, but I guess I just need to listen to my "gut". (no pun intended, ha ha) Thanks for the support!

happygirl Collaborator

Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

Soonerman Rookie
Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

Great sites, thank you very much.

EmmaQ Rookie

The IgA deficiency is a tricky thing.

Let me try and explain from my experience.

Mayo Clinic results were "normal" for IgA and our pedi only requested the TTG test w total serum. Mayo only uses one lab range for IgA screening, my son's TTG was negative.

I went to a Pedi GI and he retested with Prometheus Labs.

IgA total serum was not normal, but not techincally deficient. The lab values by Prometheus are by age ranges, so it was able to work better for a small child. The Pedi GI would not see that the IgA was low and therefore we had likely false negatives.

So, I took these results to Dr. Fasano, the "authority". He confirmed my suspicions that the Total Serum IgA levels were not techincally deficient, however, they were so low they could not have given a positive reading for TTG IgA and the other 2 tests that work off of the IgA anitbody set.

My ds2 is IgG possitive and gene positive, with "low" IgA. Frankly, it was enough for me. And off the record Dr Fasano agreed the gluten-free diet was proof enough. By the time I got to Dr. F he'd been gluten-free for just shy of 6 months and had remarkable grown and weight gain despite his lack of appetite and adversion to food.

I opted not to do Entrolab tests for my other children b/c I had no way of knowing if they were too IgA deficient (or low). I think 10% of the Celiac population is IgA deficient.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



happygirl Collaborator

EmmaQ,

Thanks for sharing your experience about IgA deficiency. Everything I've heard and read about Dr. Fasano is AWESOME and your story backs that up!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

    2. - knitty kitty replied to Jordan Carlson's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      1

      Fruits & Veggies

    3. - knitty kitty replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,043
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Churro
    Newest Member
    Churro
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      In the study linked above, the little girl switched to a gluten free diet and gained enough weight that that fat pad was replenished and surgery was not needed.   Here's the full article link... Superior Mesenteric Artery Syndrome in a 6-Year-Old Girl with Final Diagnosis of Celiac Disease https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6476019/
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jordan Carlson, So glad you're feeling better.   Tecta is a proton pump inhibitor.  PPI's also interfere with the production of the intrinsic factor needed to absorb Vitamin B12.  Increasing the amount of B12 you supplement has helped overcome the lack of intrinsic factor needed to absorb B12. Proton pump inhibitors also reduce the production of digestive juices (stomach acids).  This results in foods not being digested thoroughly.  If foods are not digested sufficiently, the vitamins and other nutrients aren't released from the food, and the body cannot absorb them.  This sets up a vicious cycle. Acid reflux and Gerd are actually symptoms of producing too little stomach acid.  Insufficient stomach acid production is seen with Thiamine and Niacin deficiencies.  PPI's like Tecta also block the transporters that pull Thiamine into cells, preventing absorption of thiamine.  Other symptoms of Thiamine deficiency are difficulty swallowing, gagging, problems with food texture, dysphagia. Other symptoms of Thiamine deficiency are symptoms of ADHD and anxiety.  Vyvanse also blocks thiamine transporters contributing further to Thiamine deficiency.  Pristiq has been shown to work better if thiamine is supplemented at the same time because thiamine is needed to make serotonin.  Doctors don't recognize anxiety and depression and adult onset ADHD as early symptoms of Thiamine deficiency. Stomach acid is needed to digest Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) in fruits and vegetables.  Ascorbic acid left undigested can cause intestinal upsets, anxiety, and heart palpitations.   Yes, a child can be born with nutritional deficiencies if the parents were deficient.  Parents who are thiamine deficient have offspring with fewer thiamine transporters on cell surfaces, making thiamine deficiency easier to develop in the children.  A person can struggle along for years with subclinical vitamin deficiencies.  Been here, done this.  Please consider supplementing with Thiamine in the form TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) which helps immensely with dysphagia and neurological symptoms like anxiety, depression, and ADHD symptoms.  Benfotiamine helps with improving intestinal health.  A B Complex and NeuroMag (a magnesium supplement), and Vitamin D are needed also.
    • knitty kitty
      @pothosqueen, Welcome to the tribe! You'll want to get checked for nutritional deficiencies and start on supplementation of B vitamins, especially Thiamine Vitamin B 1.   There's some scientific evidence that the fat pad that buffers the aorta which disappears in SMA is caused by deficiency in Thiamine.   In Thiamine deficiency, the body burns its stored fat as a source of fuel.  That fat pad between the aorta and digestive system gets used as fuel, too. Ask for an Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity test to look for thiamine deficiency.  Correction of thiamine deficiency can help restore that fat pad.   Best wishes for your recovery!   Interesting Reading: Superior Mesenteric Artery Syndrome in a 6-Year-Old Girl with Final Diagnosis of Celiac Disease https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31089433/#:~:text=Affiliations,tissue and results in SMAS.  
    • trents
      Wow! You're pretty young to have a diagnosis of SMA syndrome. But youth also has its advantages when it comes to healing, without a doubt. You might be surprised to find out how your health improves and how much better you feel once you eliminate gluten from your diet. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder that, when gluten is consumed, triggers an attack on the villous lining of the small bowel. This is the section of the intestines where all our nutrition is absorbed. It is made up of billions of tiny finger-like projections that create a tremendous surface area for absorbing nutrients. For the person with celiac disease, unchecked gluten consumption generates inflammation that wears down these fingers and, over time, greatly reduces the nutrient absorbing efficiency of the small bowel lining. This can generate a whole host of other nutrient deficiency related medical problems. We also now know that the autoimmune reaction to gluten is not necessarily limited to the lining of the small bowel such that celiac disease can damage other body systems and organs such as the liver and the joints and cause neurological problems.  It can take around two years for the villous lining to completely heal but most people start feeling better well before then. It's also important to realize that celiac disease can cause intolerance to some other foods whose protein structures are similar to gluten. Chief among them are dairy and oats but also eggs, corn and soy. Just keep that in mind.
    • pothosqueen
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.