Low Oxalate Diet -need Advice

[a ditmars]

I hope someone can speak to the topic of Oxalate withdrawl or symptoms of "dumping" oxalates. I'm in the process of switching my already gluten-free/CF/SF kids to a low oxalate diet. We are in week 2 and they have all kinds of strange things going on. Has anyone else had nausia, vomiting, headache, blotchy rash, urinary pain, irritabilty and crying. Wondering how long this phase lasts, just trying to prepare myself for the long haul.

Any thoughts or advice, greatly appreciated.

Tired Mom, Allison

[tarnalberry]

I had a very hard time keeping my blood sugar levels from dropping on the low-oxalate diet, actually. hypoglycemia can cause those symptoms, but it can be something else. you can give them supplemental calcium citrate to help bind with the oxalates in their system as they're passed out, iirc. (you'll probably want to look that up more, though.)

[Rachel--24]

These can be symptoms of toxic overload. My guess is that too many toxins are circulating through their bodies....more than what they are able to detox at once.

Epsom salt baths might help to reduce some of these symptoms.

Do they have problems with yeast overgrowth? There is a connection between yeast and oxalates...yeast are a source of oxalates and often need to be treated alongside the low oxalate diet. Its also possible that the release of toxins or "dumping" that occurs with this diet may have caused a flare-up of yeast....which could also cause those symptoms.

Either way it sounds to me like they are experiencing symptoms of detox...but maybe a little more than their bodies can handle.

[a ditmars]

  Rachel--24 said:

These can be symptoms of toxic overload. My guess is that too many toxins are circulating through their bodies....more than what they are able to detox at once.

Epsom salt baths might help to reduce some of these symptoms.

Do they have problems with yeast overgrowth? There is a connection between yeast and oxalates...yeast are a source of oxalates and often need to be treated alongside the low oxalate diet. Its also possible that the release of toxins or "dumping" that occurs with this diet may have caused a flare-up of yeast....which could also cause those symptoms.

Either way it sounds to me like they are experiencing symptoms of detox...but maybe a little more than their bodies can handle.

[a ditmars]

Rachel, Thanks thats good advice. Some time ago my son had issues with yeast, prior to going gluten-free/CF, so your thinking is probably correct. I've started giving him activated charcoal and will try the epson salts baths. I had stopped these some time ago because they seemed to contribute to a loose bowel problem we were having but maybe the combination of the charcoal and baths will balance things out. I've among loads of other supplements that he has been taking have been giving him 300mg of Cal. Citrate prior to everymeal in hope this would help too. Poor kid, today he has blisters on his lips but in general is in a much better frame of mind. Perhaps we are past the worst of it.

To anyone with a child on the austisic spectrum. The low oxalate diet is worth trying, minus the withdrawals and toxic dumping. My son's language has improved by leaps and bounds!!!

Thanks again, Rachel

Allison

[hermpal]

I have just been diagnosed with celiac and thought all would be will when I stopped eating wheat, barley, rye, etc. Now having problems with spinach and kale causing pain. Also having problems with yeast. I think celiac and all of the other conditions are related. I have to get rid of this yeast. Blood test to be done on Thursday. Anyone have any of the same problem?

Thanks hermpal

[Kelleybean]

  On 3/13/2008 at 5:41 PM, a ditmars said:

Rachel, Thanks thats good advice. Some time ago my son had issues with yeast, prior to going gluten-free/CF, so your thinking is probably correct. I've started giving him activated charcoal and will try the epson salts baths. I had stopped these some time ago because they seemed to contribute to a loose bowel problem we were having but maybe the combination of the charcoal and baths will balance things out. I've among loads of other supplements that he has been taking have been giving him 300mg of Cal. Citrate prior to everymeal in hope this would help too. Poor kid, today he has blisters on his lips but in general is in a much better frame of mind. Perhaps we are past the worst of it.

To anyone with a child on the austisic spectrum. The low oxalate diet is worth trying, minus the withdrawals and toxic dumping. My son's language has improved by leaps and bounds!!!

Thanks again, Rachel

Allison

My son is autistic. Are there any websites that outline the diet? I want to research it more. I have friends who put their son on the low-oxalate diet and it helped him a lot. I've thought about trying it but hesitant because my son is so picky and this gluten free diet alone has been so tough!

[norcal-gf]

Kelleybean, all,

Here's the best website for anyone following a Low Oxalates Diet:

Open Original Shared Link

And the Yahoo Group Low Oxalates:

Open Original Shared Link

-S