Jump to content

  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):

    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Malodextrin?

blondebombshell

Recommended Posts

blondebombshell Collaborator
blondebombshell
Posted

does malodextrin have gluten in it?

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


happygirl Collaborator
happygirl
Posted

Maltodextrin, in the USA, is generally made from corn. If it were to be made from wheat, it would be required to be listed, like "wheat maltodextrin" or "maltodextrin (wheat)".

The term is misleading because it has "malt" in it.

larry mac Enthusiast
larry mac
Posted

Somebody, I won't mention names, needs a couple of gluten-free books. I would highly recommend any two gluten-free books. A basic indoctrination into the gluten-free lifestyle is a must. A search for "gluten-free books" will reveal a wealth of seasoned opinions.

best regards, lm

MDRB Explorer
MDRB
Posted

Well, I live in Australia, so the labeling laws etc might be different here. However, in Australia maltodextrin is most definitely derived from wheat and therefore has gluten in it. If you are not sure, call the company and ask.

jewi0008 Contributor
jewi0008
Posted
does malodextrin have gluten in it?

I have heard that most maltodextrin in the US is corn based. Therefore, no. That being said, BE VERY CAREFUL. Maltodextrin is not good for us to eat anyways...it's unnatural and I always react to it. I learned this from my overconsumption of Splenda..which, I have completely cut from my diet!

trents Grand Master
trents
Posted

Just an aside as the present discussion reminds me about the same question with regard to "modified food starch". In the US, the convention is to use corn to make modified food starch, even though the source may not be specified. This would not necessarily hold true for food products coming from other countries, even Canada.

Also, "monsodium gutamate" has no gluten in it. Just sounds like it.

gfp Enthusiast
gfp
Posted
Well, I live in Australia, so the labeling laws etc might be different here. However, in Australia maltodextrin is most definitely derived from wheat and therefore has gluten in it. If you are not sure, call the company and ask.

Yep it depends WHERE the malto dextrine is from.

Europe has both wheat and non-wheat derived .. the US only corn etc.

However malto-dextrine is a commodity. Its a waste product which is processed into something that can be sold. A company may buy this on a world market and because its essentially a waste product its bought and sold along with other commodites, big multinationals order it by the thousands of tons along with othr similar products. If you live in the US domestic is probably cheapest but not always.... shipping might be combined with higher value food additives and hence a big shipment might also contain maltodextrine.

An analogy is oil. When you buy gas it is often mixed from many sources. The raw product (crude) is purchased and processed (refined) but one oil company might not process their own but sell it and buy crude on a world market. Even after they process it they often sell gas at the pumps from someone elses processing and sell the waste products on elsewhere. SO when you buy a plastic garden chair the original source of the hydrocarbons is probably a mix worldwide.

Oil companies have whole departments that organise the buying and selling of different components and waste products based on world prices, transport costs and shipping with other products. I don't expect huge multi-national food companies to do any different?

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


happygirl Collaborator
happygirl
Posted

However, regardless of where the food is made, if it is sold in the US, US food labeling laws apply.

home-based-mom Contributor
home-based-mom
Posted
However, regardless of where the food is made, if it is sold in the US, US food labeling laws apply.

:ph34r: Must make for an interesting scramble behind closed doors for the companies that purchase from multiple suppliers and don't seem to have a clue ~ or at least won't admit to having a clue ~ what is actually in the product they ship out for public consumption! :P

gfp Enthusiast
gfp
Posted
:ph34r: Must make for an interesting scramble behind closed doors for the companies that purchase from multiple suppliers and don't seem to have a clue ~ or at least won't admit to having a clue ~ what is actually in the product they ship out for public consumption! :P

This is pretty much my opinion.

The bigger the company the more disassociated it becomes... so some guy purchasing has a job of getting the cheapest bul ingredients and someone in another state or even country has the responsibility for QA. Having worked for a few large internationals it sems to usually be a case of the left hand not knowing (or caring) what the right hand is doing. Divisions have performance quotas and metrics, if they meet them then noone gets canned. Anything that hits the bottomline gets priority so QA comes a way's down the chain.

As is usual QA only becomes important AFTER a problem... up to which it is a minimal budget item since it has no direct revenue stream.

I find it hard to believe that in a huge multinational people care about the laws anywhere near as much as plausible deniability and their own a**.

home-based-mom Contributor
home-based-mom
Posted
This is pretty much my opinion.

The bigger the company the more disassociated it becomes... so some guy purchasing has a job of getting the cheapest bul ingredients and someone in another state or even country has the responsibility for QA. Having worked for a few large internationals it sems to usually be a case of the left hand not knowing (or caring) what the right hand is doing. Divisions have performance quotas and metrics, if they meet them then noone gets canned. Anything that hits the bottomline gets priority so QA comes a way's down the chain.

As is usual QA only becomes important AFTER a problem... up to which it is a minimal budget item since it has no direct revenue stream.

I find it hard to believe that in a huge multinational people care about the laws anywhere near as much as plausible deniability and their own a**.

Yup. I was in a meeting one time and we were discussing a previous mantra of "safety, service, budget" and I said "what was really budget, budget, budget." The guy said (no kidding) "No it wasn't budget, budget, budget - - - well OK it was budget, budget, budget."

:lol::blink::ph34r:

The left hand doesn't have any idea what the right hand is doing because the "brain" never lets either know that it matters to their own effectiveness and the company as a whole what the other one is doing. And so no one cares.

Welcome to mega-corporate America! :unsure:

gfp Enthusiast
gfp
Posted
Yup. I was in a meeting one time and we were discussing a previous mantra of "safety, service, budget" and I said "what was really budget, budget, budget." The guy said (no kidding) "No it wasn't budget, budget, budget - - - well OK it was budget, budget, budget."

:lol::blink::ph34r:

The left hand doesn't have any idea what the right hand is doing because the "brain" never lets either know that it matters to their own effectiveness and the company as a whole what the other one is doing. And so no one cares.

Welcome to mega-corporate America! :unsure:

Like I observed really, I once sat in on a meeting only because an other division were using our high tech projector and I had the meeting room 1st.

Company in question were discussing saving money on plastic bags at service stations and someone pointed out if they got any thinner they would just break on the forecourt.

The someone said , good they will have to buy the item again ...

Then someone finally mentioned safety ... what if it was flammable, brake fluid etc.. (finally I thought) ..

Nope noone gave a damn unless it meant closing the gas station and loosing revenue.

(including the guy who brought it up)

I think this is global corps everywhere, not limited to corporate america...

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):



    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):



  • Recent Activity

    1. AlwaysLearning
      - AlwaysLearning replied to Colleen H's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      3

      Gluten related ??

      Get tested for vitamin deficiencies. Though neuropathy can be a symptom of celiac, it can also be caused by deficiencies due to poor digestion caused by celiac and could be easier to treat.
    2. Colleen H
      - Colleen H replied to Colleen H's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      3

      Gluten related ??

      Thank you so much for your response Yes it seems as though things get very painful as time goes on. I'm not eating gluten as far as I know. However, I'm not sure of cross contamination. My system seems to weaken to hidden spices and other possibilities. ??? if cross contamination is possible...I am in a super sensitive mode of celiac disease...
    3. Jmartes71
      - Jmartes71 replied to Jmartes71's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      4

      My only proof

      EXACTLY! I was asked yesterday on my LAST video call with Standford and I stated exactly yes absolutely this is why I need the name! One, get proper care, two, not get worse.Im falling apart, stressed out, in pain and just opened email from Stanford stating I was rude ect.I want that video reviewed by higher ups and see if that women still has a job or not...
    4. AlwaysLearning
      - AlwaysLearning replied to Jmartes71's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      4

      My only proof

      We feel your pain. It took me 20+ years of regularly going to doctors desperate for answers only to be told there was nothing wrong with me … when I was 20 pounds underweight, suffering from severe nutritional deficiencies, and in a great deal of pain. I had to figure it out for myself. If you're in the U.S., not having an official diagnosis does m...
    5. AlwaysLearning
      - AlwaysLearning replied to Colleen H's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      3

      Gluten related ??

      If you're just starting out in being gluten free, I would expect it to take months before you learned enough about hidden sources of gluten before you stopped making major mistakes. Ice cream? Not safe unless they say it is gluten free. Spaghetti sauce? Not safe unless is says gluten-free. Natural ingredients? Who knows what's in there. You pretty much...
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):


  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,079
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748
    Terra33
    Newest Member
    Terra33
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • AlwaysLearning
      Gluten related ??

      By AlwaysLearning · Posted

      Get tested for vitamin deficiencies.  Though neuropathy can be a symptom of celiac, it can also be caused by deficiencies due to poor digestion caused by celiac and could be easier to treat.
    • Colleen H
      Gluten related ??

      By Colleen H · Posted

      Thank you so much for your response  Yes it seems as though things get very painful as time goes on.  I'm not eating gluten as far as I know.  However, I'm not sure of cross contamination.  My system seems to weaken to hidden spices and other possibilities. ???  if cross contamination is possible...I am in a super sensitive mode of celiac disease.. Neuropathy from head to toes
    • Jmartes71
      My only proof

      By Jmartes71 · Posted

      EXACTLY! I was asked yesterday on my LAST video call with Standford and I stated exactly yes absolutely this is why I need the name! One, get proper care, two, not get worse.Im falling apart, stressed out, in pain and just opened email from Stanford stating I was rude ect.I want that video reviewed by higher ups and see if that women still has a job or not.Im saying this because I've been medically screwed and asking for help because bills don't pay itself. This could be malpratice siit but im not good at finding lawyers
    • AlwaysLearning
      My only proof

      By AlwaysLearning · Posted

      We feel your pain. It took me 20+ years of regularly going to doctors desperate for answers only to be told there was nothing wrong with me … when I was 20 pounds underweight, suffering from severe nutritional deficiencies, and in a great deal of pain. I had to figure it out for myself. If you're in the U.S., not having an official diagnosis does mean you can't claim a tax deduction for the extra expense of gluten-free foods. But it can also be a good thing. Pre-existing conditions might be a reason why a health insurance company might reject your application or charge you more money. No official diagnosis means you don't have a pre-existing condition. I really hope you don't live in the U.S. and don't have these challenges. Do you need an official diagnosis for a specific reason? Else, I wouldn't worry about it. As long as you're diligent in remaining gluten free, your body should be healing as much as possible so there isn't much else you could do anyway. And there are plenty of us out here who never got that official diagnosis because we couldn't eat enough gluten to get tested. Now that the IL-2 test is available, I suppose I could take it, but I don't feel the need. Someone else not believing me really isn't my problem as long as I can stay in control of my own food.
    • AlwaysLearning
      Gluten related ??

      By AlwaysLearning · Posted

      If you're just starting out in being gluten free, I would expect it to take months before you learned enough about hidden sources of gluten before you stopped making major mistakes. Ice cream? Not safe unless they say it is gluten free. Spaghetti sauce? Not safe unless is says gluten-free. Natural ingredients? Who knows what's in there. You pretty much need to cook with whole ingredients yourself to avoid it completely. Most gluten-free products should be safe, but while you're in the hypersensitive phase right after going gluten free, you may notice that when something like a microwave meal seems to not be gluten-free … then you find out that it is produced in a shared facility where it can become contaminated. My reactions were much-more severe after going gluten free. The analogy that I use is that you had a whole army of soldiers waiting for some gluten to attack, and now that you took away their target, when the stragglers from the gluten army accidentally wander onto the battlefield, you still have your entire army going out and attacking them. Expect it to take two years before all of the training facilities that were producing your soldiers have fallen into disrepair and are no longer producing soldiers. But that is two years after you stop accidentally glutening yourself. Every time you do eat gluten, another training facility can be built and more soldiers will be waiting to attack. Good luck figuring things out.   
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.