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mcs1984 Apprentice

Ok so since i have been looking into this more and more for my son and are getting him tested, my mom and I have been talking. Something kept telling me to look it up and see if MS (Multiple Sclerosis) and Celiacs where any way connected. My mom has been suffering with MS for now 23 years and we both have noticed some of her sypmtoms are getting worse. I dont think she is going to go get tested for celiacs but i do think she is just going to go gluten free.

My question is has anyone ever heard of MS and Celiac be connected?

And does anyone else suffer from this?

Thanks


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Yes they are. They are both auto-immune diseases. When I was a kid knowing that they are some how linked kept me from wanting to cheat.

Here is a link to an article about it. https://www.celiac.com/articles/124/1/Multi...ease/Page1.html

veggienft Rookie

I've read so much now that I can't find all the links. Here's a good one on molecular mimicry.

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Portions of wheat gluten are capable of plugging into nerves because they mimic human endorphin. The multi-step process is theoretical, but all of its parts are proven.

Portions of the Epstein Barr (mononucleosis) virus, the varicella zoster (shingles) virus, and wheat gliadin protein have been found in abundance in the spinal fluid of multiple sclerosis patients. The spinal fluid surrounds the central nervous system. That system is supposed to be sealed from intrusion from such particles.

When susceptible people eat wheat gluten, they produce a gut protein called zonulin. The zonulin causes the gut contents to empty into the bloodstream. Once in the bloodstream, zonulin opens capillary walls and nerve myeline sheaths. Gliadin, mimicking endorphin, reaches through these membranes, plugs into nerve tissue, and causes nerve damage. It makes for a nervous system which is damaged and open to attack from Epstein Barr and varicella zoster viruses. The immune system recognizes the fouled nerve tissue as contaminated and attacks it.

The key to this multi-step process is the zonulin reaction to wheat gluten. The lining of the small intestine is supposed to prevent anything as large as wheat gluten proteins, Epstein Barr viruses, and varicella zoster viruses from entering the bloodstream. Capillary walls and myelin sheaths are supposed to prevent these substances from reaching nerve tissue. But the presence of wheat gluten causes the zonulin reaction, and the zonulin reaction permits the transfer of these dangerous particles.

Stop eating wheat gluten, and in time, these protective membranes will start to function as they should. I also have reason to believe, given time, that candidiasis and celiac are the same disease.

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I got celiac after several years of fighting candida. People with a sensitivity to both wheat gluten and candida would have to stop consuming sweets (including fruit), dyes and chlorine.

Celiac disease is mediated by IgA and IgG antibodies. IgA antibodies operate mostly on mucous membranes, and take about two weeks to clear the body. IgG antibodies operate mostly in the blood, and take about 6 months to clear the body. The bad news for MS patients is that the autoimmune reaction is more of an IgG reaction. So improvement could take months on the proper diet.

Good luck.

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CarlaB Enthusiast

Also check out this thread. There is a huge correlation between this and MS. Open Original Shared Link

ravenwoodglass Mentor

They were related for me. I was thought to have MS, I didn't I had celiac. Because I went undiagnosed for so long I have not had full resolution but I have come a long way. I no longer need canes or walls to walk, I can actually feel when I have to go to the bathroom and make it there most days, I don't drop things all the time anymore (although my dog still runs when I have a plate in my hands :D ), and although I still have some problems with speech I can actually call a fork a fork most days. I also had brain matter white spots on MRI that some doctors would have considered diagnostic of demylinating lesions found in MS, however they were not in quite the same spots that MS lesions are so the doctor that read the MRI stated that the test was not conclusive.

AliB Enthusiast

Roger McDougall cured himself of MS with a gluten and dairy free diet back in the 50's. You can read the story at

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It is very encouraging. Good for him figuring it out all those years ago. Bryan Forbes the actor developed it in the 70's - he adopted Roger's diet and has also been in remission since.

I am sure that pretty much any 'auto-immune' disease almost certainly has gluten behind it.

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