Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Tomato Sauce? Help!


cpicini

Recommended Posts

cpicini Rookie

I'm new to the forum and have to say it's been a huge help.

Tonight I had an issue with my dinner and I'm not sure why. I made pizza with a gluten-free crust from Whole Foods, tomato sauce from a pork store and fresh mozzarella from the the same store. Now I didn't ask about the sauce but the people at the store know that I'm a celiac and a have never heard of a marinara sauce with flour in it. Well my dinner ran through me like a freight train! I am also remembering that the last time I had sauce was a couple of months ago and it was my wifes home made. I had the same issue then and know for sure that there was no gluten in that sauce. I guess my questions is what else could be making me sick?

Chris


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



kbtoyssni Contributor

Is the sauce made fresh in the store? If so, it could be CC. Or the mozerella might be CCed. And while it's unlikely that the sauce contained gluten, you still have to check just to be sure. If you don't know, don't eat it!

It could also be not gluten-related. Tomato is very acidic, and cheese can be difficult to digest so maybe it's the combo of the two?

Phyllis28 Apprentice

I use Enrico's Pizza Sauce. It is labeled Gluten Free on the back of the jar.

The other possibility is the mozerella cheese if was cut in the store's deli department. The slicer could be contaminated. I only eat cheese that is packaged. I like Boar's Head cheese and Land o' Lakes.

Hope you find the cause of the gluten.

ksymonds84 Enthusiast
I'm new to the forum and have to say it's been a huge help.

Tonight I had an issue with my dinner and I'm not sure why. I made pizza with a gluten-free crust from Whole Foods, tomato sauce from a pork store and fresh mozzarella from the the same store. Now I didn't ask about the sauce but the people at the store know that I'm a celiac and a have never heard of a marinara sauce with flour in it. Well my dinner ran through me like a freight train! I am also remembering that the last time I had sauce was a couple of months ago and it was my wifes home made. I had the same issue then and know for sure that there was no gluten in that sauce. I guess my questions is what else could be making me sick?

Chris

Hi Chris,

Don't know if the same could be for you but I can't eat whole foods gluten free pizza crusts because of the number one ingredient non-fat dairy milk powder. I can handle cheeses and can eat mozzerella on other crusts that don't contain the dairy powder. Mozzerella cheese has about 2 grams of lactose where a cup of nonfat milk powder has 60 grams!! just too much on my system. I too was wondering about the tomato sauce but found the milk powder to be the source. Just a thought.

CeliacMom2008 Enthusiast

I hope someone has an answer for you, because we have the same problem. My son got sick the last few times he had pizza (a few days of terrible D). I started with store bought crust, store bought sauce, shredded moz., and bacon. Then went to homemade crust, store bought sauce, cheese, and bacon. Then went to homemade crust, homemade sauce, cheese and bacon. He tolerates spaghetti sauce and fresh tomatoes just fine. Moz. cheese sticks just fine. And bacon just fine. I really wanted it to be something else, but after three tries it really looks like pizza is the culprit. In fact after the last try my mom actually said to me, "What? Are you trying to kill him??" We have decided to hold off on trying pizza again until this summer when we can be sure of what he eats (no more CC issue from cafeteria) for a few days before and then I guess I'll go back to the all homemade version.

I really want him to be able to eat pizza...

cpicini Rookie

Thank you everyone for your posts. The Pizza Crust comments from celiacmom seems to make sence to me but I'm also think that the acid in the sauce is giving me an issue. The kicker is that I really liked the pizza I made. Just my luck. I'm gonna try again in a couple of days and see what happens.

Thanks again.

Chris

cattriona Newbie

Just a suggestion - you might want to check if any concentrates or preservatives are being used? I know that quite a few people are sensitive to concentrated garlic which is often used for certain foods, in particular for tomato based sauces and foods like pizza. It doesn't contain gluten as such, but if you have a sensitive stomach, it may not agree. Same with mozerella - lots of people who aren't dairy sensitive simply can't tolerate it.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



RiceGuy Collaborator

I agree that mozzarella (or dairy in general) may not work for you right now. Tomato is a nightshade, to which many are sensitive (including myself). What I'd try is have some tomato by itself, and see how you feel. Then try some mozzarella by itself and see. If you don't react, then I'd think either it was something in the sauce or the crust.

redgf Rookie

Unfortutely I had the same reactions to tomato sauces until I realized if I simmer it for a few hours on the stove or in the crockpot it doesn't affect me. My mom thinks it's because some of the acid cooks out over time... whatever the reason I am glad, it's the only way I can have spaghetti sauce, even home made! Good luck!

RiceGuy Collaborator
Unfortutely I had the same reactions to tomato sauces until I realized if I simmer it for a few hours on the stove or in the crockpot it doesn't affect me. My mom thinks it's because some of the acid cooks out over time... whatever the reason I am glad, it's the only way I can have spaghetti sauce, even home made! Good luck!

Sounds like you are somewhat sensitive to nightshades. The longer they cook, and the higher the temperature, the less of the toxic alkaloids remain. For detailed info see: Open Original Shared Link

redgf Rookie
Sounds like you are somewhat sensitive to nightshades. The longer they cook, and the higher the temperature, the less of the toxic alkaloids remain. For detailed info see: Open Original Shared Link

Whoa, I never knew that! Explains why I can only stomach tomatoes and potatoes from the whole group, and I cook the heck out of both of them! Thanks for the info!!!! Amazing how much I think I know about food but really don't!

sneezydiva Apprentice

What did you cook it on? Could an old pizza pan or pizza stone have had gluten on it?

cpicini Rookie
What did you cook it on? Could an old pizza pan or pizza stone have had gluten on it?

I thought of that but I scrubbed the Pizza stone before I used it. I was only suspicious of the sauce becasue I got sick once before but while eating sauce with pasta.

katebuggie28 Apprentice

Last night I had gluten-free penne with classico sauce, meatballs cooked in olive oil and made with egg(no problems with egg) and soy flour. (oh, and i had some canned greens beans) I was so sick afterwards. I couldn't figure out why. Maybe it was the acid in the sauce? Thanks! I was upset not knowing what it could've been. Shouldn't tomatoes bother me then? I have been eating A LOT of salad with tomatoes with no problem....

cpicini Rookie

Katebuggie,

I hear ya. I'm not sure if I was more in pain or surpise. I'm leaning towards the acid from the tomatos but I too have been eating more tomatos that aren't in sauce without a problem. Funny though how the first time I got sick from my wifes home made sauce she used Classico Plum Tomatoes.

Chris

silk Contributor
I hope someone has an answer for you, because we have the same problem. My son got sick the last few times he had pizza (a few days of terrible D). I started with store bought crust, store bought sauce, shredded moz., and bacon. Then went to homemade crust, store bought sauce, cheese, and bacon. Then went to homemade crust, homemade sauce, cheese and bacon. He tolerates spaghetti sauce and fresh tomatoes just fine. Moz. cheese sticks just fine. And bacon just fine. I really wanted it to be something else, but after three tries it really looks like pizza is the culprit. In fact after the last try my mom actually said to me, "What? Are you trying to kill him??" We have decided to hold off on trying pizza again until this summer when we can be sure of what he eats (no more CC issue from cafeteria) for a few days before and then I guess I'll go back to the all homemade version.

I really want him to be able to eat pizza...

I too have problems with tomato sauce. Always have...at times. Too acidic as someone else said, and with all of the other digestive issues that we have, I'm sure the acid is....well working on your stomach like acid. The funny thing is is that I can eat fresh tomatoes and ketchup without a problem.??? I have a recipe for making your own low-acid sauce from scratch and that worked pretty well. I also have a pie crust recipe that works really well for pizza. If you would like it, p.m. me. Right now I'm thinking Pizza Hut sounds like....sorry wiping drool off of the keyboard....

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. 0

      Penobscot Bay, Maine: Nurturing Gluten-Free Wellness Retreat with expert celiac dietitian, Melinda Dennis

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,331
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Kristy2026
    Newest Member
    Kristy2026
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
    • Scott Adams
      I do not know this, but since they are labelled gluten-free, and are not really a product that could easily be contaminated when making them (there would be not flour in the air of such a facility, for example), I don't really see contamination as something to be concerned about for this type of product. 
    • trents
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.