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Mally-bug Apprentice
Mally-bug
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Maltodextrin --- I thought it was ok, but I just read an article that it contains hidden gluten? Anybody know?

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Lisa Mentor
Lisa
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Maltodextrin --- I thought it was ok, but I just read an article that it contains hidden gluten? Anybody know?

Maltodextrin is the US is generally derived from corn. Any wheat would, by law, be required to be disclosed as "Maltdextrin (wheat)." It would be highly unusual to contain any other form of gluten.

curlyfries Contributor
curlyfries
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Maltodextrin --- I thought it was ok, but I just read an article that it contains hidden gluten? Anybody know?

According to my research, if the product is made in the US, then there is no gluten. From other countries there may be gluten.

psawyer Proficient
psawyer
Posted

The relevant US regulation is:

USA Code of Federal Regulations

Sec. 184.1444 Maltodextrin

CAS Reg. No. 9050-36-6. It is a nonsweet nutritive saccharide polymer that consists of D-

glucose units linked primarily by [alpha]-1-4 bonds and has a dextrose equivalent (DE) of less

than 20. It is prepared as a white powder or concentrated solution by partial hydrolysis of

cornstarch, potato starch or rice starch with safe and suitable acids and enzymes.

Note: FDA also permits the use of other starches including wheat. For example, if wheat is used

it must be labeled "wheat maltodextrin".

In Canada, it can also be taken as a given that maltodextrin, when appearing as that single word, is safe.

kenlove Rising Star
kenlove
Posted

Hi, So just hypothetically, if a major food producer bought a ton of maltodextrin from China and used it to process foods in Texas which were then sold in the US with only maltodextrin listed and no wheat or other allergens listed, would it be legal by current laws?

I know it is supposed to be listed but is that limited to maltodextrin produced and used in the US?

I've always been paranoid about it since I ate something once and that was the only questionable ingredient. Have never eaten anything with maltodextrin again since, although it was from the US and not marked with allergens other than soy, It made me really ill.

My feeling is that this is a gray area when it comes to buying things from overseas.

Ken

Maltodextrin is the US is generally derived from corn. Any wheat would, by law, be required to be disclosed as "Maltdextrin (wheat)." It would be highly unusual to contain any other form of gluten.
psawyer Proficient
psawyer
Posted

In both the US and Canada, the country of origin of any or all of the ingredients makes no difference to the labeling laws. The label must conform to the rules of the country where the product is sold at retail. So your hypothetical case would be illegal.

Here in Canada, I have seen a number of imported products with a Canadian label attached over top of the original one for the ingredients and nutritional facts.

Of course, if a foreign supplier represented to the manufacturer that it was maltodextrin from corn when in fact it was not, that would be fraud.

In nearly eight years on the diet, I have never worried about maltodextrin, and have not had a problem.

kenlove Rising Star
kenlove
Posted

Thanks Pete,

I'll have to give it a try again one of these days. Since much of my work revolves around the fresh produce industry the regulations are much different. We keep pushing for laws in the US that would require labeling of country of origin, GMO and irradiation. None of it is required now.

Thanks again

Ken

In both the US and Canada, the country of origin of any or all of the ingredients makes no difference to the labeling laws. The label must conform to the rules of the country where the product is sold at retail. So your hypothetical case would be illegal.

Here in Canada, I have seen a number of imported products with a Canadian label attached over top of the original one for the ingredients and nutritional facts.

Of course, if a foreign supplier represented to the manufacturer that it was maltodextrin from corn when in fact it was not, that would be fraud.

In nearly eight years on the diet, I have never worried about maltodextrin, and have not had a problem.

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sickchick Community Regular
sickchick
Posted

B)

I won't eat anything with Maltodextrin in it... just my choice.

kenlove Rising Star
kenlove
Posted

I cant figure out why they put so much junk into things.. Its scary to read an ice cream label! Maltodextrin and carrengen are in everything!

take care

B)

I won't eat anything with Maltodextrin in it... just my choice.

Lisa Mentor
Lisa
Posted

Isn't maltodextrin associated with MSG?

sickchick Community Regular
sickchick
Posted

Ken I found a few Haagen-Dazs without... (before I went back off dairy ;) one is the light version- Pineapple-Coconut all natural ingredients, and it's really delicious. I stick with their Sorbets now :)

Momma Goose I am not sure, I don't eat MSG either! LOL! :lol:

Be well everyone! :)

kenlove Rising Star
kenlove
Posted

Thanks, good to know -- I need to stay away from ice cream for awhile l-- not because dairy as much as weight.

It will be 2 years of being gluten-free next week. My waist is smaller than it was but my stomach bigger than ever. With the last test I had no problem with dairy, soy or others but guess I should get tested again -- after I get back from Italy!

take care!

Ken I found a few Haagen-Dazs without... (before I went back off dairy ;) one is the light version- Pineapple-Coconut all natural ingredients, and it's really delicious. I stick with their Sorbets now :)

Momma Goose I am not sure, I don't eat MSG either! LOL! :lol:

Be well everyone! :)

sickchick Community Regular
sickchick
Posted
Thanks, good to know -- I need to stay away from ice cream for awhile l-- not because dairy as much as weight.

It will be 2 years of being gluten-free next week. My waist is smaller than it was but my stomach bigger than ever. With the last test I had no problem with dairy, soy or others but guess I should get tested again -- after I get back from Italy!

take care!

AWESOME you don't have to avoid Soy or Dairy... that is a blessing B)

Have fun in Italy :)

little d Enthusiast
little d
Posted

I wondered about that too. Thanks

donna

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