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Toro Certified gluten-free Foods


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HI ALL THIS IS AN EXCERPT FROM A LETTER I SENT TO SOMEBODY WHO GAVE ME gluten-free CERTIFIED SAMPLES.

READ ON..

OMG! i cant believe it i was reading the labels right, and guess what is in some of these products? wheat.. yes. here is how it is listed:

AND it is the 1st thing on the label list which means that there is the most of it in the product:

SPECIALLY FORMULATED WHEAT STARCH* THEN AT THE BOTTOM IT SAYS- CONTAINS LESS THAN 200 PPM (0.02%) GLUTEN, WHICH IS CERTIFIED AS SAFE FOR CELIACS ACCORDING TO THE EUROPEAN UNION CODEX STANDARD..

WOULD YOU GIVE THIS TO *****? NOT BEING MEAN. JUST A QUESTION.. THIS STUFF IS IMPORTED FROM NORWAY, DIST. BY A COMPANY IN IOWA..

SO WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?? WOULD YOU? I DONT KNOW IF I WANT TO TRY IT OR NOT.. MY DAUGHTER IS A NON SYMPTOMATIC.. ADVICE PLEASE..

THANKS AGAIN ALL

LYNN


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There is no way in this world I would eat that! Here in the US, they are pushing for a limit of 20 ppm on foods labeled gluten-free. Some think that is too much!

I wouldn't give it to anywone with Celiac. It just isn't worth it.

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There is no way in this world I would eat that! Here in the US, they are pushing for a limit of 20 ppm on foods labeled gluten-free. Some think that is too much!

I wouldn't give it to anywone with Celiac. It just isn't worth it.

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THANKS That is what i figured.. And Australia. they are even stricter than we are I hear.. now, I saw something on your DD#4 i think it was that like the stomach ulcers? I think? my dd had the same thing at 4 bld wk was only 40 at that time. all other tests even biopsy were negative. they gave her rx of not xanex.. oh heck forgot what it was called. she was on it for a year and rescoped and it was cleared up.. also increased her appetite.. good luck and thanks

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I wouldn't eat anything with wheat starch! A lot of people would get sick from that product.

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I wouldn't eat anything with wheat starch! A lot of people would get sick from that product.

Yes I know.. Wanted everybody to see that!! it is going into the garbage..

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lobita Apprentice

I was wondering if there'd be any discussion about Toro on the board.

I went to a Gluten-Free and Allergy Expo last weekend, and I was encouraged to try some samples made with Toro flour. AFTER I ate a piece, I looked at the ingredients of the flours and was horrified to see "wheat starch" there.

I was really surprised that the Expo allowed the vendor to pass out samples without warning about the ingredients. I never would've tried it if I was warned...even if it is "certified" gluten-free.

BUT I don't think it made me sick. I already had a dh outbreak and it didn't get any worse since this weekend, and I didn't experience the usual day-after-contamination-trainwreck.

TrillumHunter Enthusiast

I've had it. It's delicious. I wouldn't make it my regular bread but I could see using it occasionally. 200 ppm is like 1/5 of one red marble mixed in with 1000 blue ones. You probably breathe in that much gluten walking by the bakery in the grocery.

The countries that are producing theses products are decades ahead of the US in celiac research.

Don't eat it if you don't want to. But, be sure to educate yourself about current research before you make your choices! :D


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Considering I get neuro symptoms from walking past the bakery and near the flour aisle at the grocery store, I wouldn't touch that. Not a chance.

lobita Apprentice

I did eat it and I didn't react as far as I can tell, but if I saw the ingredients before tasting the sample, I wouldn't have touched it. So maybe that's more of an emotional response rather than a rational one.

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Does anybody know if these Toro products are widely used by the European Celiac community?

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