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H.pylori & Dgl

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I know I have posted on here about h.pylori a long time ago, but am still wondering. I found out i had it about 3 months ago, when they tested me for this, they also tested me for celiac...and surprise...I also have that too). I am already allergic to 3 types of antibiotics, so for now, I am refusing the standard medication. I have been taking omeprazole daily, and it made me feel back to normal.

After being out of town at a wedding last weekend, I felt some refluxy symptoms again after all this time, so I started taking DGL (De-Glycyrrhizinated Licorice). I have been taking 2 a day...and gosh, these are the most awful things I have ever tasted...i would rather be eating marmite, which I previously thought was the worst thing...my British husband likes it..ick. Anyway....it does seem to make me feel better, if i am having symptoms.

But, I am wondering if there anyone on here that has been cured of h.pylori with DGL or any other "natural" remedy and by not taking the antibiotics? I am just so nervous to take them.especially when I know some strands are resistant, and my dr won't test for what strand it is...grrrr! Though, I am going to find a new GI dr soon at University of Chicago. But, I also know untreated h.pylori can lead to scary stuff...stuff i don't want.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks

Anne

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As always, be careful about what you put in your body. Even some of these "natural" remedies can be dangerous. I'd start off with the safest ones such as Apple Cider Vinegar and or Garlic. Hope this helps.

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From what my GI doctor and my PCP told me not all H Pylori needs to be treated. It is something that is found in large numbers of people. It was found when they did my endo but since I was having no symptoms they didn't want to treat it. Although I am quite mistrustful of doctors after hearing the same from both of them and with my mistrust of pharmacuticals (for me that includes herbal 'remedies') I haven't worried about it.

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foodiegurl
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So, if lots of people have h.pylori, is it that sometimes it is active, and other times it lays dormant? I totally felt like mine had gone away for 2 months, until I went to this wedding, and had lots of things with tomato in it, which I am sure did not help, being that it is acidic.

I think I will eat mellow foods for a few days and see how it feels. I am sure it doesn't help I made enchiladas with tomato sauce last night either :(

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So, if lots of people have h.pylori, is it that sometimes it is active, and other times it lays dormant? I totally felt like mine had gone away for 2 months, until I went to this wedding, and had lots of things with tomato in it, which I am sure did not help, being that it is acidic.

I think I will eat mellow foods for a few days and see how it feels. I am sure it doesn't help I made enchiladas with tomato sauce last night either :(

From what I've read heart burn is your body's way of fighting off H pylori because it can't handle high acidic levels (probably why they say to use vinegar to fight it). So if you are having a lot of heartburn that might be indicative of the H pylori rearing its ugly head. Not sure if that helps, but it might explain some of your symptoms.

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Hi Anne,

Yes, there are natural means to eradicate H pylori. And if you are having health problems and heartburn, then 'controlling' it is not enough- you need to get rid of it once and for all.

DGL is a start and helps to control H pylori, but will not eradicate it on its own. As another member pointed out, garlic is useful for controlling it, but won't eradicate it.

While acidifying the stomach might help, H pylori has adapted to live in the acidic stomach over eons of living in human stomachs and while apple cider vinegar might help your heartburn, there is no evidence that it can control H pylori.

But you can eradicate it using an aggressive protocol of 2 solid months of VERY high quality DGL (capsules so you don't have to chew them if you don't like them) and Mastic Gum at high dosages. Both of these remedies are safe and effective for H pylori. The protocol also encourage the use of adjuncts such as ginger, garlic and turmeric eaten in the food during therapy.

This is followed with 2 months of HIGH QUALITY probiotics, which replace the good bacteria as well as using specific strains of probiotics that are well known to help control H pylori themselves.

Each one of these substances has been well researched for safety and efficacy in the control of H pylori. Used all together, they provide a knockout punch to those stomach bugs.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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hmm...so how do I know if my DGL and probiotics are "high quality"? I thought DGL had to be chewed so that it mixes with saliva?

also, I have looked everywhere for mastic gum, and cannot find it. even my local HFS looked at me like i was asking for chewing gum...though maybe i just wasn't talking to the sharpest tool in the shed :P but generally where does one buy this?

and what constitutes high doses?

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So, if lots of people have h.pylori, is it that sometimes it is active, and other times it lays dormant? I totally felt like mine had gone away for 2 months, until I went to this wedding, and had lots of things with tomato in it, which I am sure did not help, being that it is acidic.

I think I will eat mellow foods for a few days and see how it feels. I am sure it doesn't help I made enchiladas with tomato sauce last night either :(

Could you have been glutened at the wedding? Some of us get horrible heartburn with a glutening but I don't know what your gluten symptoms are.

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