Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Would You Consider This Correct?


macocha

Recommended Posts

macocha Contributor

that typically and normally one would either have a wheat allergy or celiac disease.

They can have both - but it is not common...

I posed a question to my daughter's allergist because she tested negative for wheat allergy. I asked if that means she most likely would not have celiac then, and he said that it is not common to have both - normally it is one or the either.

anyone?

the reason I am asking is that my son has both. a wheat allergy and celiac.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Jestgar Rising Star

I am both allergic to wheat and rye, and intolerant to them.

WheatChef Apprentice

Food allergies in general are statistically rarer than intolerances.

Jestgar Rising Star

Open Original Shared Link

suggests that 2-6% of people have food allergies. I don't know what the stats are on intolerances. Where did you get your info from?

Pac Apprentice

that typically and normally one would either have a wheat allergy or celiac disease.

They can have both - but it is not common...

I posed a question to my daughter's allergist because she tested negative for wheat allergy. I asked if that means she most likely would not have celiac then, and he said that it is not common to have both - normally it is one or the either.

anyone?

the reason I am asking is that my son has both. a wheat allergy and celiac.

It depends on what wheat allergy your daughter was tested for.

IgE allergy to wheat proteins (not gluten)

IgE allergy to gluten

IgG allergy/intolerance

IgG reaction to gluten is very common in celiacs - up to 75% of them have anti-gliadin antibodies. (if a celiac gets sick from cc in 15-30minutes, it's because of these antibodies, true celiac reaction takes 4-12 hours to develope)

I've never heard of any connection between IgE wheat/gluten allergy and celiac, but I know a few people with both. If you see just the statictical chances - it's quite improbable to have both.

I'm IgE allergic to gluten (chronic asthma, ekzema) and "intolerant" to wheat and probably other gluten grains (or even oats?) - I have all the atypical celiac symptoms (some very severe) but no confirmed enteropathy. I get stomach sick if I get severely glutened, but both IgE allergy and neurological symptoms are much more sensitive to cc.

Jestgar Rising Star

IgG reaction to gluten is very common in celiacs - up to 75% of them have anti-gliadin antibodies. (if a celiac gets sick from cc in 15-30minutes, it's because of these antibodies, true celiac reaction takes 4-12 hours to develope)

You're gonna have to reference these numbers - I've never seen anything like them.

ravenwoodglass Mentor

IgG reaction to gluten is very common in celiacs - up to 75% of them have anti-gliadin antibodies. (if a celiac gets sick from cc in 15-30minutes, it's because of these antibodies, true celiac reaction takes 4-12 hours to develope)

Can you give us a link to this research? I would be very interested in learning more about this. An allergic, or histamine reaction does normally take place in the time frame you referenced but according to my allergist the intolerance reaction from gluten antibodies can take up to a week for reactions to develop as the antibodies need to build up in the bloodstream. That was the reason for waiting a week before adding other foods to a true elimination diet.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Rogol72 replied to Butch68's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      2

      Guinness, can you drink it?

    2. - Scott Adams replied to Butch68's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      2

      Guinness, can you drink it?

    3. - MogwaiStripe replied to Midwestern's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      15

      Gluten Issues and Vitamin D

    4. - Butch68 posted a topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      2

      Guinness, can you drink it?


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,218
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    tiffhorn14
    Newest Member
    tiffhorn14
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Rogol72
      Hey @Butch68, I also have dermatitis herpetiformis but don't suffer from it anymore. I used to drink Guinness too but I drink Cider now when out on social occasions. I assume you are in Ireland or the UK. If it's any good to you ... 9 White Deer based in Cork brew a range of gluten-free products including a gluten-free Stout. I'm not sure if they are certified though. https://www.9whitedeer.ie/ I haven't come across any certified gluten-free stouts this side of the pond.
    • Scott Adams
      This is a very common question, and the most important thing to know is that no, Guinness is not considered safe for individuals with coeliac disease. While it's fascinating to hear anecdotes from other coeliacs who can drink it without immediate issues, this is a risky exception rather than the rule. The core issue is that Guinness is brewed from barley, which contains gluten, and the standard brewing process does not remove the gluten protein to a level safe for coeliacs (below 20ppm). For someone like you who experiences dermatitis herpetiformis, the reaction is particularly significant. DH is triggered by gluten ingestion, even without immediate gastrointestinal symptoms. So, while you may not feel an instant stomach upset, drinking a gluten-containing beer like Guinness could very well provoke a flare-up of your skin condition days later. It would be a gamble with a potentially uncomfortable and long-lasting consequence. Fortunately, there are excellent, certified gluten-free stouts available now that can provide a safe and satisfying alternative without the risk.
    • MogwaiStripe
      Interestingly, this thought occurred to me last night. I did find that there are studies investigating whether vitamin D deficiency can actually trigger celiac disease.  Source: National Institutes of Health https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7231074/ 
    • Butch68
      Before being diagnosed coeliac I used to love Guinness. Being made from barley it should be something a coeliac shouldn’t drink. But taking to another coeliac and they can drink it with no ill effects and have heard of others who can drink it too.  is this everyone’s experience?  Can I drink it?  I get dermatitis herpetiformis and don’t get instant reactions to gluten so can’t try it to see for myself. 
    • trents
      NCGS does not cause damage to the small bowel villi so, if indeed you were not skimping on gluten when you had the antibody blood testing done, it is likely you have celiac disease.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.