Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Help Please!


Coconut's mom

Recommended Posts

Coconut's mom Newbie

Hi, I just stumbled on this site. Looks great, and hope I can find help. My daughter is 14. She has had stomach problems for years. We tried a ped. gastrologist approx 4 yrs ago. He said to add more probiotics to her diet (wow). She eats tons of yogurt, and I make kefir that she drinks. We did the dairy free diet, no help. Her symptoms are: Severe gas and bloating to the point of tears (which I know, can be caused from many things), sometimes diarrhea, tingling in her back, arms, and legs, headaches (not severe), fatigue, acid reflux, (with no help from meds), and recently nausea and some vomiting. Summer before this one, she went to camp and came back very sick. She lost weight because she was afraid to eat because she didn't want to hurt. I thought it was just a "teen" girl weight thing, so I let it go. Then, at the beginning of this year, when the nausea and vomiting started, I knew I needed to do more. I had read up on celiac and gluten intolerance. I took her to her pediatrician, and told her I thought she had celiacs. She ran blood work ( I don't know exactly what), but it came back negative. I then decided to put her on a gluten free diet. Immediately, she improved. The problem is she can't stay on the diet. She constantly "cheats" to fit in. Her symptoms are not near as bad as before, but she is still having them. In her "teenage" mind, she thinks I am paranoid because we don't have an "official" diagnosis. She wanted to see a gastro dr. I finally gave up the fight, and told her when she decided to be totally gluten free, I would try to help her, but she had to make an effort. I made an appt. with a gastro dr. and have been waiting to see him. Today, I find out, he doesn't take anyone under 16, so we are back to square one with that. She also had some enlightenment when she ate wheat cereal and then threw up and has felt poorly all day.

What do you recommend? Do we go to a gastro dr and have the procedure? If it is neg too, could it still be celiac? or what else do we need to do?

I am about at my wits end!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



bakermom Newbie

I don't blame you for being at your wit's end! I think the pediatric gastroenterologist is really important, because blood tests can come back negative. THe followup to a blood test is a biopsy if the doctor thinks celiac disease is possible, and you need to be eating gluten for that biopsy to be true. It certainly sounds possible, but there are other options too. I don't know where you live, but if you're anywhere near Cleveland, OH, I'll recommend someone.

Once you get past that hurdle, the eating-to-fit-in thing is hard to conquer. I can't exactly speak from experience, because my daughter was diagnosed at 2 and is now 6, but I've heard from others. She's going to have to make a choice each and every time about whether she wants to fit in and have pain, or be pain free and a bit different. It's hard to support them in their choices. It's also hard to know how bad peer pressure can be.

Cooking and baking can help make some equivalent things, and you'd be surprised how many options there are at various restaurants to eat something appropriate.

I will hold your family in my heart....

Dixiebell Contributor

Welcome to the forum!

Teens can be so difficult sometimes. You could show her this list of things that can happen with untreated celiac disease or gluten intolerance.

cassP Contributor

good idea to show her that list!!! but u might want to add MORE to it:

constipation

HEMMOHROIDS... to the point where u may need excruciating surgery

hypothyroid

depression/anxiety/panic attacks

DH, psoraiasis, and excema

etc,etc...

i think you need to ask your doctor for a copy of her results- and study them. they may not be complete- or they may have HIGH negative numbers.

and then i would suggest you two consider retesting, and maybe biopsies.. BUT- you want to make sure she is on a good enough gluten challenge before- otherwise the testing may be a waste of time.

and keep looking on here- & maybe showing some threads to your daughter-> there's a lot of great info on here- many of our GIs are even telling us to research online, because they are new to a lot of this too- as they were not really taught too much by the Pharmaceutical run medical schools

Coconut's mom Newbie

Thanks for the advice. We live in NC near Asheville.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. 0

      Penobscot Bay, Maine: Nurturing Gluten-Free Wellness Retreat with expert celiac dietitian, Melinda Dennis

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,335
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    johnfreirefr
    Newest Member
    johnfreirefr
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
    • Scott Adams
      I do not know this, but since they are labelled gluten-free, and are not really a product that could easily be contaminated when making them (there would be not flour in the air of such a facility, for example), I don't really see contamination as something to be concerned about for this type of product. 
    • trents
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.