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Candida Or Celiac


Holly4

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I had a neighbor tell me yesterday that I don't have celiac, I have Candida. I had never heard of Candida and so I did some research. I found that the symptoms are very similar to Celiac. Many of my main symptoms like brain fog, numbness and tingling in my hands and feet, headaches, constipation are all symptoms of both. I have also had a yeast infection that I can't seem to get rid of and itchy ear and eyes.

I had a postive blood test for celiac and am now waiting for the endoscopy in a week. I am afraid that the endoscopy will come back negative and then I will wonder if it is really celiac. I plan to go gluten-free immediately following the endo, but the gluten free diet would also rid you of candida it seems.

Has anyone dealt with Candida and how do you know if you have that? I'm just so tired of feeling crappy! I hope I can work this out. I guess I really just don't want to give up my favorite things in the world which all contain gluten :(.


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Shashi Apprentice

Hi, there is some sort of home spit test you can do to see if you have Candida. I did it a few months ago, and it showed positive results, but I never pursued it. You could probably find out how to do it by Googling it.

Like you, I have the neurological symptoms, brain fog, never-ending yeast infection, etc. I also had one of the things on my Celiac test come back borderline deficient (whatever that means.) I need to make an appointment with my GI doctor, but I keep putting it off (for whatever reason!)

Like you, I'm so sick and tired of being sick and tired. This stuff has gone on for almost five year, and I've had enough. I'll almost try anything if it will help. (But like you said, it'll be hard to give up my favorite foods!!!)

Hugs,

Lisa

ravenwoodglass Mentor

If your blood test was positive you are celiac no matter what the biopsy says. Some doctors are even now skippping the biopsy for diagnosis if someone has positive blood work as there is a 20 to 30 percent of a false negative with both the blood and biopsy. After the biopsy get on the diet strictly. Could you also have issues with candida, perhaps. Talk to you doctor about it.

wahmmy Apprentice

I agree with above. You could have issues with the other but if you had the positive blood test, I'd say that means your body needs to be off gluten, even if you have issues with the other. It it were me, I'd get off gluten as soon as I had the biopsy and then deal with the other potential issue.

emaegf Newbie

When you go in for the biopsy ask the GI doc of he/she will test for Candida at the same time. You can have both at the same time and Candida dies seem to go along with Celiac in a lot of patients. I had that problem I was treated with Nystatin and Diflucan. The Diflucan worked the best after taking it for about a year I haven't had yeast infections at all and feel so much better.

Pancreatic Insufficiency is a problem with some Celiacs. You can have chronic Pancreatitis or Acute (Sudden onset) they are both treated the same way. You can get acute at times if you have chronic. I have chronic it hurts like hell when I eat to many starchy foods and I can't take enzymes that have amylase in it.

If you have problems/ pain when you eat high fat it could also be gallbladder.

You had a positive Celiac test you have Celiac.

Simona19 Collaborator

When you go in for the biopsy ask the GI doc of he/she will test for Candida at the same time. You can have both at the same time and Candida dies seem to go along with Celiac in a lot of patients. I had that problem I was treated with Nystatin and Diflucan. The Diflucan worked the best after taking it for about a year I haven't had yeast infections at all and feel so much better.

Pancreatic Insufficiency is a problem with some Celiacs. You can have chronic Pancreatitis or Acute (Sudden onset) they are both treated the same way. You can get acute at times if you have chronic. I have chronic it hurts like hell when I eat to many starchy foods and I can't take enzymes that have amylase in it.

If you have problems/ pain when you eat high fat it could also be gallbladder.

You had a positive Celiac test you have Celiac.

Hi!

I would like to ask you, how did you found out about Pancreatic insufficiency. What kind of tests your doctor ordered for you? I have a problem with fat and sugar. Specialy when I will eat animal fat, like grilled chicken leg, or chicken soup. I will get dizzy, I will feel like I will faint, I don't want to eat anything and I will have pain on the left side of my stomach. Sometimes my back on the left sife will get "bug crawling" sensation with some mild pain. My doctor tested me for pancreatitis, but all blod work came back negative. Nobody believes me that I can't eat food like normal people. My breakfast is some rice cereal with rice milk and bowl of blackberries or blueberries. For lunch I will eat mostly homemade vegetable soup or gluten free bread and scramble eggs. For dinner slice of chicke breast with cooked vegetable and plain rice or potato. Between I will eat a half of banana, small orange, yogurt or crackers. Soon I will have something different, I will be in pain later.

Is this Pancreatic insuffeciency? I think it is, but I don't have a proof of it.

Simona19 Collaborator

I was tested for Candida at the beginning of my celiac disease. Doctor ordered stool sample test. It came back negative.

I was also tested for SIBO by breading test. I was positive for it. A technician gave mi to drink a cup of some sweet liquid

and I was breading to some small device every 25 minutes. The technician knew by the amounts, If I had SIBO. I was positive for it. SIBO - small intestinal bacterial owergrowth can also mimic celiac disease. You might want to look in this too. My doctor prescribed to me two antibiotics for two weeks and I was cured. I requested second test after the treatment, just to be safe, and it was negative.


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DaffodElle Newbie

I came across an article, it is a little old, but it really seemed to clear up the candida/Celiac connection as well as we know about it. It made complete sense with my overlapping symptoms. It was published in the Lancet in 2003, title is "Is Candida albicans a trigger in the onset of coeliac disease?". You can look for it on PubMed, not sure if there is free full text.

Brief (and way oversimplified) synopsis: There is an amino acid sequence in the cell wall of candida that is identical to or highly homologous to the gliadin sequence that causes the immune response in celiac disease. In response to both these proteins, the body would also form antibodies to tTG and endomysium.

One could see the potential, then, for candida to cause very similar symptoms if it provokes the same immune response!

I kept thinking I was getting glutened by nuts, vinegars, wine, and cheese... I now think it is yeast or mold-related foods that do something to trigger candida, which in turn causes the antibody formation and a "gluten" response.

I'm not sure why it hasn't received more attention or further research... I would love to know how to fix the problem for good!

Does this resonate with anyone else??

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