Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Canker Sores?


hannahm

Recommended Posts

hannahm Newbie

My name is Hannah, and I am 14. I was just recently diagnosed in October 2010 with Celiac disease, and I have been gluten free ever since. Most of my stomach pain has gone away, but I still get the occasional cramp where I always got my Celiac pain. With my case, I also got diarrhea and bad gas. Most of this has gone away, but occasionally I will relapse back into it. The one problem I always have is canker sores. I have had canker sores about the size of a dime, and they usually come in a group of 2-4. Ever since my diet, the canker sores have slowly seemed to go away, but I am very prone to getting them for other reasons. For example, I just got my braces taken off, and my retainer has caused two extremely painful sores in the past couple days. Is there anything I could take that would make me less likely to contract a sore? Or am I stuck with these for the rest of my life? Should I consult my doctor?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Kat70R Rookie

Hi Hanna, I too get horrible canker soars, they are so painful! swirl with salt water, it hurts a bit but really helps. Also, a bit of good probiotic yogurt every day really helps to control breakouts. I now only eat the soy yogurt as I am lactose intolerant.

Good Luck!

Kat

Dixiebell Contributor

Welcome to the forum hannahm.

Do your parents also eat gluten-free also? Do you share the same toaster, cookware, baking pans, cutting board, nut butters, jams, mayo, butter, etc.? If you are you could be getting cross contaiminated (CC) by the foods that they eat. Do your personal care products have gluten in them? If you are eating a lot of gluten-free processed foods you might want to cut back on them and eat naturally gluten-free foods, fruits, veggies, meats, nuts, etc. and see if that helps.

hannahm Newbie

Thanks guys!

Dixiebell: Actually, yes my family does use some of the same products. Would that mean my mom would have to buy a separate cookware set for gluten free food also? I do use separate peanut butter on gluten free toast roasted in the oven, but that's all.

Kat70R: I've been using salt and hydrogen peroxide periodically throughout the day, and it really has helped. I plan on continuing this until it heals :)

Dixiebell Contributor

It is recommended to have your own pots for gluten-free because the gluten from other foods can be stuck in scratches and seams. You should only need a couple of pots for your foods. And a pasta strainer. Cookie sheets can be lined with foil to prevent CC. You probably need to get your own condiments, things that a knife are dipped into, and mark them as gluten-free so everyone knows not to use them. When someone who is not gluten-free uses the butter for example, dips the knife and spreads it on their bread and dips it again to spread some more, the butter is now CC'ed. If your family puts frozen pizza or their regular bread on the oven rack that can CC you too. It is a learning curve, and most Dr.'s don't know about all this or just don't think it is important.

Emsstacey Rookie

I have suffered with canker sores for as long as I can remember. Mine had gotten almost continuous when I had a positive celiac panel. I read in Prevention magazine a tiny article about the benefits of sublingual B12. It stated that in a trial, 99% of people had complete remission of canker sores by taking 1000 mcg of B12 daily and sublingually. I bought some at Wal Mart for about $5 and started using it. I have not had a canker sore since and that was almost 2 years ago.

It has been a miracle for me. I think I must have been deficient and since B12 is a common deficiency for Celiac's... maybe that is why it is associated with canker sores?

Just an idea but it worked for me!

hannahm Newbie

That sounds like a great idea!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



hannahm Newbie

And actually, I went to my dentist the other day. He saw the affected tissue and gave me some Peridex mouthwash, and it has really improved things too!

cap6 Enthusiast

Hi Hannah ~ I had really bad canker sores before going gluten-free, as many as 8 or 9 at a time. It took awhile but since going gluten-free they are for the most part gone. Once in awhile I will get one but it never gets to the painful ulcer point. I did get a mouth wash from my dr and I believe it was called miracle mouth that was a numbing agent that really helped. But please check to be sure that it is gluten-free as I used it before going gluten-free. Good luck to you Hannah and it will get better. Honest!!! :)

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Mari replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      15

      My only proof

    2. - Rejoicephd commented on Jefferson Adams's article in Gluten-Free Cooking
      1

      Your Complete Gluten-Free Thanksgiving Plan: Recipes, Tips & Holiday Favorites

    3. - marion wheaton replied to marion wheaton's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      3

      Are Lindt chocolate balls gluten free?

    4. - trents replied to marion wheaton's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      3

      Are Lindt chocolate balls gluten free?


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,420
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    maggie23
    Newest Member
    maggie23
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Mari
      Years  ago a friend and I drove north into Canada hoping to find a ski resort open in late spring,We were in my VW and found a small ski area near a small town and started up this gravelled road up a mountain. We  got about halfway up and got stuck in the mud. We tried everything we could think of but an hour later we were still stuck. Finally a pickup came down the road, laughed at our situation, then pulled the VW free of the mud. We followed him back to the ski area where where he started up the rope ski lift and we had an enjoyable hour of skiing and gave us a shot of aquavit  before we left.It was a great rescue.  In some ways this reminds me of your situation. You are waiting for a rescue and you have chosen medical practitioners to do it now or as soon as possible. As you have found out the med. experts have not learned how to help you. You face years of continuing to feel horrible, frustrated searching for your rescuer to save you. You can break away from from this pattern of thinking and you have begun breaking  away by using some herbs and supplements from doTerra. Now you can start trying some of the suggestions thatother Celiacs have written to your original posts.  You live with other people who eat gluten foods. Cross contamination is very possible. Are you sure that their food is completely separate from their food. It  is not only the gluten grains you need to avoid (wheat, barley, rye) but possibly oats, cows milk also. Whenever you fall back into that angry and frustrated way of thinking get up and walk around for a whild. You will learn ways to break that way of thinking about your problems.  Best wishes for your future. May you enjpy a better life.  
    • marion wheaton
      Thanks for responding. I researched further and Lindt Lindor chocolate balls do contain barely malt powder which contains gluten. I was surprised at all of the conflicting information I found when I checked online.
    • trents
      @BlessedinBoston, it is possible that in Canada the product in question is formulated differently than in the USA or at least processed in in a facility that precludes cross contamination. I assume from your user name that you are in the USA. And it is also possible that the product meets the FDA requirement of not more than 20ppm of gluten but you are a super sensitive celiac for whom that standard is insufficient. 
    • BlessedinBoston
      No,Lindt is not gluten free no matter what they say on their website. I found out the hard way when I was newly diagnosed in 2000. At that time the Lindt truffles were just becoming popular and were only sold in small specialty shops at the mall. You couldn't buy them in any stores like today and I was obsessed with them 😁. Took me a while to get around to checking them and was heartbroken when I saw they were absolutely not gluten free 😔. Felt the same when I realized Twizzlers weren't either. Took me a while to get my diet on order after being diagnosed. I was diagnosed with small bowel non Hodgkins lymphoma at the same time. So it was a very stressful time to say the least. Hope this helps 😁.
    • knitty kitty
      @Jmartes71, I understand your frustration and anger.  I've been in a similar situation where no doctor took me seriously, accused me of making things up, and eventually sent me home to suffer alone.   My doctors did not recognize nutritional deficiencies.  Doctors are trained in medical learning institutions that are funded by pharmaceutical companies.  They are taught which medications cover up which symptoms.  Doctors are required to take twenty  hours of nutritional education in seven years of medical training.  (They can earn nine hours in Nutrition by taking a three day weekend seminar.)  They are taught nutritional deficiencies are passe' and don't happen in our well fed Western society any more.  In Celiac Disease, the autoimmune response and inflammation affects the absorption of ALL the essential vitamins and minerals.  Correcting nutritional deficiencies caused by malabsorption is essential!  I begged my doctor to check my Vitamin D level, which he did only after making sure my insurance would cover it.  When my Vitamin D came back extremely low, my doctor was very surprised, but refused to test for further nutritional deficiencies because he "couldn't make money prescribing vitamins.". I believe it was beyond his knowledge, so he blamed me for making stuff up, and stormed out of the exam room.  I had studied Nutrition before earning a degree in Microbiology.  I switched because I was curious what vitamins from our food were doing in our bodies.  Vitamins are substances that our bodies cannot manufacture, so we must ingest them every day.  Without them, our bodies cannot manufacture life sustaining enzymes and we sicken and die.   At home alone, I could feel myself dying.  It's an unnerving feeling, to say the least, and, so, with nothing left to lose, I relied in my education in nutrition.  My symptoms of Thiamine deficiency were the worst, so I began taking high dose Thiamine.  I had health improvement within an hour.  It was magical.  I continued taking high dose thiamine with a B Complex, magnesium. and other essential nutrients.  The health improvements continued for months.  High doses of thiamine are required to correct a thiamine deficiency because thiamine affects every cell and mitochondria in our bodies.    A twenty percent increase in dietary thiamine causes an eighty percent increase in brain function.  The cerebellum of the brain is most affected.  The cerebellum controls things we don't have to consciously have to think about, like digestion, balance, breathing, blood pressure, heart rate, hormone regulation, and many more.  Thiamine is absorbed from the digestive tract and sent to the most important organs like the brain and the heart.  This leaves the digestive tract depleted of Thiamine and symptoms of Gastrointestinal Beriberi, a thiamine deficiency localized in the digestive system, begin to appear.  Symptoms of Gastrointestinal Beriberi include anxiety, depression, chronic fatigue, headaches, Gerd, acid reflux, gas, slow stomach emptying, gastroparesis, bloating, diarrhea and/or constipation, incontinence, abdominal pain, IBS,  SIBO, POTS, high blood pressure, heart rate changes like tachycardia, difficulty swallowing, Barrett's Esophagus, peripheral neuropathy, and more. Doctors are only taught about thiamine deficiency in alcoholism and look for the classic triad of symptoms (changes in gait, mental function, and nystagmus) but fail to realize that gastrointestinal symptoms can precede these symptoms by months.  All three classic triad of symptoms only appear in fifteen percent of patients, with most patients being diagnosed with thiamine deficiency post mortem.  I had all three but swore I didn't drink, so I was dismissed as "crazy" and sent home to die basically.   Yes, I understand how frustrating no answers from doctors can be.  I took OTC Thiamine Hydrochloride, and later thiamine in the forms TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) and Benfotiamine to correct my thiamine deficiency.  I also took magnesium, needed by thiamine to make those life sustaining enzymes.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins, so the other B vitamins must be supplemented as well.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.   A doctor can administer high dose thiamine by IV along with the other B vitamins.  Again, Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine should be given if only to rule Gastrointestinal Beriberi out as a cause of your symptoms.  If no improvement, no harm is done. Share the following link with your doctors.  Section Three is especially informative.  They need to be expand their knowledge about Thiamine and nutrition in Celiac Disease.  Ask for an Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity test for thiamine deficiency.  This test is more reliable than a blood test. Thiamine, gastrointestinal beriberi and acetylcholine signaling.  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12014454/ Best wishes!
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.