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Estrella Damma Daura


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josh052980 Enthusiast

I saw a thread about Estrella Damm Daura, but still had a question... Has anyone on here actually reacted to it? I'm trying the different gluten free beers to see what I like best, which is difficult because they're hard to find. So far I like Bard's the best, closely followed by Redbridge. I wanna try Estrella if I can find it, but I wanna make sure no one is reacting to it, because I know there's still a bit of gluten in there, but WAY under the threshold where we should react to it. Also read on their site, Open Original Shared Link that they use dedicated lines to produce the beer. If anyone here has tried it, can you let me know your impressions, and most of all, did you react at all?


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mamaw Community Regular

It is hard to find but well worth the search! I'm not a big beer drinker mainly I fry gluten-free foods in beer batter but I always taste some first... This in my opinion is very good. I also think Greeen's also is one of the better brands...I have or know some real beer drinkers & it passed thier test!So did Green's but others they did not like!

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pricklypear1971 Community Regular

I'm trying Bard's tonight with sausage, sauerkraut, apples, potatoes, and onions! Yum!

I'll look for Estrella. Have you tried a BevMo or Total Wine?

josh052980 Enthusiast

I'm trying Bard's tonight with sausage, sauerkraut, apples, potatoes, and onions! Yum!

I'll look for Estrella. Have you tried a BevMo or Total Wine?

Nope, I haven't tried either... There's no Total Wine locations near me, and their website sucks ass. There is one local store that has a ton of foreign beer and wine though, so I'm gonna go look this weekend. Everyone is saying Estrella is expensive, but according to BevMo it's $7.99 for a 6 pack... That's not too bad.

mamaw Community Regular

that is what I paid for it!

Menic Apprentice

I've tried it once or twice and didn't have any issues. I think they test it to less than 20ppm. If I had to rank what I've had:

Bards

Estrella

Redbridge

New Grist

Bards I quite like, and I used to always drink darker beers. Redbridge is drinkable, but it's about on par with a generic light beer. I would get wine or cider over New Grist.

josh052980 Enthusiast

I've tried it once or twice and didn't have any issues. I think they test it to less than 20ppm. If I had to rank what I've had:

Bards

Estrella

Redbridge

New Grist

Bards I quite like, and I used to always drink darker beers. Redbridge is drinkable, but it's about on par with a generic light beer. I would get wine or cider over New Grist.

I hated New Grist... The after taste was terrible.


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love2travel Mentor

No offense but I absolutely detest beer. So, why am I posting, you ask? Wondering if there is such a thing as good gluten-free Guiness in Canada for British Steak and Ale Pie. I can handle it in that but definitely not to drink.

josh052980 Enthusiast

I've tried it once or twice and didn't have any issues. I think they test it to less than 20ppm. If I had to rank what I've had:

Bards

Estrella

Redbridge

New Grist

Bards I quite like, and I used to always drink darker beers. Redbridge is drinkable, but it's about on par with a generic light beer. I would get wine or cider over New Grist.

Well, I found the beer, and tried it. Sadly, I felt it was only ok. Bard's is still the king of gluten free's in my mind. PLUS Estrella gave me very minor gluten symptoms 2 days or so after I drank it.

kareng Grand Master

No offense but I absolutely detest beer. So, why am I posting, you ask? Wondering if there is such a thing as good gluten-free Guiness in Canada for British Steak and Ale Pie. I can handle it in that but definitely not to drink.

Can you get Greens Dubble Dark? I think that's the name. I think it would be good to cook with.

love2travel Mentor

Can you get Greens Dubble Dark? I think that's the name. I think it would be good to cook with.

Thanks, Karen. I will check to see whether it is available here. My husband has a fierce hankering for some Steak and Ale Pie! Well, um, so do I... :D

T.H. Community Regular

Have you looked at New Planet Beer?

I'm another non-beer drinker posting, LOL, but my father and brother claim this is the best gluten-free beer they've had. I know they've had Bard's and Redbridge, so that's probably what they were comparing to.

It looks like the company is small but expanding, and so not available in every state. They do have a website, however.

  • 2 months later...
jefnik Newbie

My wife, who has celiac, really loves the taste of Daura, but it has been giving her symptoms, so last week we tested it using the EZ Gluten test kit from ELISA Technologies. We came up with a reading that did not match any of the results described in the test kit booklet, so we called ELISA Tech directly. According to their representative, the reading we got was a positive for a high level of glutenin (as opposed to gliadin). The rep explained that the most commonly used tests for gluten measure only gliadin, while EZ Gluten measures both glutenin and gliadin levels (both of which are components of gluten). So if the brewery, Estrella Damm, is only measuring the gliadin levels, it's possible that they could come up with a reading of less than 6 ppm. But a low reading for gliadin is not the same as a low reading for gluten. Daura may still have very high glutenin levels, thereby causing celiac reactions.

I've written to Estrella Damm for more information about their testing process, but they have not responded. It's interesting that Daura has not been certified gluten-free. (Unless perhaps there's some kind of rule that entering a beer into a gluten-free beer contest is a substitute for gluten-free certification.)

  • 2 months later...
singlutinoya Newbie

My wife, who has celiac, really loves the taste of Daura, but it has been giving her symptoms, so last week we tested it using the EZ Gluten test kit from ELISA Technologies. We came up with a reading that did not match any of the results described in the test kit booklet, so we called ELISA Tech directly. According to their representative, the reading we got was a positive for a high level of glutenin (as opposed to gliadin). The rep explained that the most commonly used tests for gluten measure only gliadin, while EZ Gluten measures both glutenin and gliadin levels (both of which are components of gluten). So if the brewery, Estrella Damm, is only measuring the gliadin levels, it's possible that they could come up with a reading of less than 6 ppm. But a low reading for gliadin is not the same as a low reading for gluten. Daura may still have very high glutenin levels, thereby causing celiac reactions.

I've written to Estrella Damm for more information about their testing process, but they have not responded. It's interesting that Daura has not been certified gluten-free. (Unless perhaps there's some kind of rule that entering a beer into a gluten-free beer contest is a substitute for gluten-free certification.)

I'm so glad you shared this! DAURA BEER MADE ME SO SICK. Definitely, definitely glutened. Maybe this is why.

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