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No More Corn!


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I am so upset. I knew this was happening, but I've been eating corn anyway. We just grew corn in our own backyard for the first time! I had to try it, and it was REALLY GOOD! Now I am paying the price with diarrhea about 5 times today, bloating and gas too. :( I am so mad. Now that I'v been gluten-free for almost a year now, I can tell I am really sensitive so other foods, too...such as corn and broccoli. I don't get fatigued and "fog-headed" with corn, but my stomach is awful. I just hate my intestines sometimes, and today is one of those days!! Do you tend to be intolerant to corn when you have Celiac?? I guess so. :(


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I'm almost positive that corn gives me an almost identical reaction that I would to gluten.

Three years into the gluten free diet and I was still symptomatic and still had the DH rash, as well as a TON of rashes all over my body. Cut out soy, dairy, seafood, and several other foods but never corn. Then I ate some BRM cornbread, which is made in a dedicated facility, and had one of the worst gluten reactions that I've had in a long time. I've eaten contaminated food before but this was way beyond that. I was sick for two weeks with a full blown gluten reaction.

I cut out corn two weeks ago, including corn syrup and even my laundry detergent. All of my non-DH rashes have completely cleared up and my DH seems like it's actually going away... My stools have normalized for the first time in a very, very long time. Considering, even my cutaneous and skin symptoms flare (including exacerbation of DH), I'm pretty sure that it's not just an intolerance or allergy for me.

They definitely need to study corn, because I really don't doubt that some of us react to it just like some celiacs react to pure uncontaminated oats. I seem to react slightly less to corn though than say wheat gluten, but the reaction is there it's just not as potent.

I did get glutened yesterday though by a supplement that was "free from wheat", but not free of gluten so today has been pretty bad for me.

bartfull Rising Star

I hate corn. No, I mean I really HATE corn! It's in EVERYTHING, and I predict that before too long, the rest of the world is going to wake up to the fact that corn is bad for people. Between the GMO's and the high fructose corn syrup that has replaced the sugar in most of our foods, I think so many people are going to develope issues that they will have to do something about it. I just hope it doesn't take years and years before doctors realize that is what is making people sick the way it took them forever to recognize that gluten is a problem.

I hate to say this, because I don't want to see a lot of people suffering the way I (and a lot of us) have, but the sooner it is confirmed that people get sick from corn, maybe the sooner we will be able to find CORN free products in our grocery stores.

Bubba's Mom Enthusiast

I hear ya!

Look how long it took to realize trans-fat was bad for us. It went into the food system in World War II and it's just been a couple of years that they realized the human body couldn't process it properly. It's inflamatory properties caused a lot of heart disease and diabetes. I'm sure they'll come to realize that so much corn and corn/syrup aren't good either? Corn has been genetically altered a lot too!

I read a report online somewhere that the wheat was genetically altered over 45 years or so ago to contain more gluten/gliadin. It protects the wheat from insects and mold in the field..right up to consumption. Basically we are/were eating wheat with a heavy dose of pesticide/funcicide built right in. Any wonder why it's hurting us? :blink:

mushroom Proficient

Yes, aside from the gluten problem, I can't touch the two most genetically modified foods, corn and soy. Corn is actually worse for me than gluten in most instances (any time there is any of the outer casing of the kernel).

anabananakins Explorer

Corn and I parted ways last week. I hear you, I was eating it even though I knew I shouldn't. I don't react to the starches, but ground corn in corn chips, tortillas etc, UGH!

Leper Messiah Apprentice

Yeah corn is awful and what makes it worse is that it is in a lot of gluten free foods - including the bread (as maize). And if it's not corn, it's soy...


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