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Bacterial Overgrowth Or Coeliac? (Gas Issues)


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Skylarc -

Sorry for the double reply but I am going to try out the fructose free diet again. Apparently, fructose is in some lettuces, and a bunch more of the food I've been eating than I thought. Wish me luck!


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Skylarc -

Sorry for the double reply but I am going to try out the fructose free diet again. Apparently, fructose is in some lettuces, and a bunch more of the food I've been eating than I thought. Wish me luck!

Good luck! So you know, my mom who has FM does really well on lean meats and eggs, white rice or potatoes (not brown rice), and dark leafy greens like kale, spinach, or chard. You can start with those foods and expand if it helps. :)

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My doctor told me to stop te fructose free diet. He put me on Cipro for 14 days suspecting Sibo.

I am debating going on a gluten free diet again, but longer than one week. I read that it can take several weeks to feel better. My main question is, for people who are gluten intolerant, before you started your gluten free diet would you get symptoms after every meal or was it a round the clock bloating/gas symptoms etc with no relevance to meal times?

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Sorry, I guess I should have been more clear. Before you went gluten free did you have symptoms after any meal - or were you able to correlate it to certain foods or time of the day. If you ate a salad would you still get symptoms until you healed from the gluten inflammation?

  • 2 months later...
stelle9 Newbie

I'm so glad I found this post--my symptoms are EXACTLY the same, and I am just as confused as you are as to how to move forward. Please let me know if you find any solution to this problem, because I've spent countless hours researching, cutting out certain foods, trying different supplements, but there is no clear pattern. So frustrating :( I have not tried antibiotics at this point, but wonder if that is the next step.

heidi g. Contributor

Candida is real, it is also known as thrush. I have had it before and they gave me antibiotics for it which got rid of it. Now the people saying that it never goes away and the forums for it... Well for alit of those people I think alot of it is in their head. Yeast overgrowth in the body is usually caused by taking strong antibiotics. That's how I got mine. The symptoms I had were: noisy stomach, gas (really bad) foggy brains, white patches on tongue, headaches, and craving breads and sugars. When I ate sugar, the bloating got worse and so did the gas. This was way before I got sick with celiac and the doctor confirmed the yeast diagnosis with a throat culture and tongue swab. If you think you have Celiac, or that, then eat fresh foods and lots of fresh veggies. Stay away from products with yeast in them. Eating a healthy diet can't hurt you! Ever thought of being lactose I tolerant? I am and I get super gassy like how you described.

  • 2 weeks later...
addis001 Apprentice

I just know a month on the Celiac diet I feel a ton better.. But I'm having really bad gas, bloating issues.. I don't know if its because i'm getting glutened by accident, or if I might be something else..

My grandmother and aunt have Celiac and also Corn allergy.. Would Corn cause Gas and bloating issues..?

My husband is afraid to be in public with me because it smells soooooo bad...

Breakfast, steel cut oats(gluten free) and apples. And rice dream milk.

Lunch-Odi bread (gluten free) and gluten free Turkey breast with mustard and lettuce

Kettle Chips (gluten free), Nuts (walnuts and chocolate covered almonds--which maybe caused it, but not chocolate covered, its more like cocoa powder)

Gluten Free Betty Crocker Cookies

V-8 Fusion (gluten free)

Helping of a soup I made (rotel, corn, potatoes, garlic, brown rice)

Dinner- Mashed potatoes, Crockpot Chicken and green beans (all gluten free and made by me)

Maybe this is too much, but i'm constantly hungry all the time.. i think the gas and bloating maybe came from corn or nuts... Or maybe its just natural with all the vegetables and fruits.. But it definitely looks like i'm 3 months prego or something.. I took a pain pill left over from my ER visit a few months back, and i farted and felt better. Took and nap and woke up right as rain... i can't explain the weird gas at night.


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Not all of us are able to handle even gluten free oats :( And the Rice Dream milk although it claims to be gluten free, and has revamped the label and maybe their processing, still seems to bother some of our posters (it is filtered with barley but they claim there is no residual gluten left. So you might try revamping your breakfast to a rice or some other cereal you tolerate, and using almond or hemp milk instead of Rice Dream (or there are other brands of rice milk which are okay if you really want that. Also, check your mustard - some of them have gluten.

Corn for me produces the same reaction as gluten with bloating and gas and the big D - it just doesn't last as long. Try dropping the obvious corn and see if that helps. For me, the cornstarch is not so much of a problem, but others can't have any trace corn, even in medications.

By the way, have you checked all your meds, both scrip and OTC, for gluten/corn because these are the two common fillers used in tablets?

addis001 Apprentice

I didn't have any rice dream milk today or corn.. and my gas was much better.. I'll try corn on another day and see if the gas returns..

How does everyone keep the gluten free products and labels straight..

Some companies list correctly?

Some don't?

And even my Publix doesn't list every gluten-free item correctly, except for the most expensive ones, especially organic ones.. Like Classico Sauce is Gluten Free, but they have an organic sauce for 9 dollars as Gluten free posted.

Its like they want us to spend the most we can for a disease we can't control..

mushroom Proficient

There are many gluten free items that are not labelled as such by the supermarkets. I think maybe the food companies might pay for the gluten free label (if they make the claim on their product.) Many companies do not make the claim because they do not test, but their product is still gluten free. It all comes down to reading the labels and finding your way around gluten free products, a process that is best done slowly, not all at once.

If wheat is in a product, it is required to be listed. So is milk, corn, soy, peanuts, tree nuts, shellfish and I can't remember the other one. (This is in the U.S. of course) And of course these products take many forms in the ingredients list but the label must state if it contains one of the top 8 allergens.

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