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Would Anyone Recommend Homeopath Testing?

Kirstie

By Kirstie
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Kirstie Apprentice
Kirstie
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I'm unwilling to go back on gluten in order to be testing because of the harsh reaction it puts my body through.

A friend of mine was diagnosed with coeliac after seeing a dietician and undergoing homeopath and food allergy testing.

I was wondering if anyone would recommend undergoing Homeopath, had any experience with it or any advise on seeing a dietician and avoiding the doctors (as all doctors in my experience have been useless!)

Thanks! K x

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VydorScope Proficient
VydorScope
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Seeing a dietician for help with making a healthy gluten free diet makes sense, but a dietician can not give you an official diagnoses.

Really though ... why do you care? You state that if you eat gluten you have a harsh reaction. So the logical course of action is to not eat gluten. Would any test of any kind change that? No matter what test you take, you still have the original problem where you eat something and it makes you sick. The answer is the same, do not eat what makes you sick. Seems to me unless you have a specific reason, testing at this point for you is a waste of time and money.

Kirstie Apprentice
Kirstie
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Seeing a dietician for help with making a healthy gluten free diet makes sense, but a dietician can not give you an official diagnoses.

Really though ... why do you care? You state that if you eat gluten you have a harsh reaction. So the logical course of action is to not eat gluten. Would any test of any kind change that? No matter what test you take, you still have the original problem where you eat something and it makes you sick. The answer is the same, do not eat what makes you sick. Seems to me unless you have a specific reason, testing at this point for you is a waste of time and money.

Well obviously the point of seeing a dietician would be to change my diet further, discover what other foods I may be intolerant to in an attempt to live a healthier life. Surely that's the obvious reason why I care, what a silly question for you to ask!

I'm just curious to see if anyone else has had experience with food allergy testing, and what they think about it.

VydorScope Proficient
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Well obviously the point of seeing a dietician would be to change my diet further, discover what other foods I may be intolerant to in an attempt to live a healthier life. Surely that's the obvious reason why I care, what a silly question for you to ask!

I'm just curious to see if anyone else has had experience with food allergy testing, and what they think about it.

Food Allergy testing is a different thing all together. We took my son to an allergy doc for that and I would recommend you do that if you think you might still have undiscovered issues. Your original post mentioned nothing of food allergies so I did not pick up on that is what you were after. It sounded like you were looking for a Celiac test which is distinctly different then food allergies.

Mom23boys Contributor
Mom23boys
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Our "alternative" practitioners have been more knowledgeable than our medical doctors when it comes to allergies. Their tests have also been more accurate than the "traditional" allergy testing.

deb445 Rookie
deb445
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Our "alternative" practitioners have been more knowledgeable than our medical doctors when it comes to allergies. Their tests have also been more accurate than the "traditional" allergy testing.

I've also had very positive experiences working with "alternative" medicine practioners. If you are interested in discovering food and environmental intolerances or sensitivities without invasive tests or treatment, I would recommend doing a google search for a NAET practioner in your area. Sometimes Osteopaths can use applied kinesiology to also test for sensitivities that result in physical or emotional symptoms.

IrishHeart Veteran
IrishHeart
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A friend of mine was diagnosed with coeliac after seeing a dietician and undergoing homeopath and food allergy testing.

I have no idea how that is possible, since celiac is not an allergy.

It is an autoimmune disease and is not diagnosed by allergy testing, which is done by skin prick testing. Allergies are IgE -mediated.

These are VERY different things.

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I'm unwilling to go back on gluten in order to be testing because of the harsh reaction it puts my body through.

A friend of mine was diagnosed with coeliac after seeing a dietician and undergoing homeopath and food allergy testing.

I was wondering if anyone would recommend undergoing Homeopath, had any experience with it or any advise on seeing a dietician and avoiding the doctors (as all doctors in my experience have been useless!)

Thanks! K x

This is not legitimate celiac testing. Food allergy tests don't test for celiac and your strong response to gluten is more reliable than any pseudo-scientific homeopathic tests.

Unfortunately we undiagnosed folks (I'm in that boat too) are stuck with either gluten challenging or continuing to live as if we're celiac. It sucks, but that's the reality of it.

Mom23boys Contributor
Mom23boys
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I have no idea how that is possible, since celiac is not an allergy.

I believe the OP said homeopath AND food allergy testing - those are 2 different tests.

Our alt specialist did live blood testing. White blood cells start acting in a different way, other things show up on the test to show problems in the intestines...Ours described exactly how we were feeling/symptoms as if she were giving a script. The med dr just shrugged his shoulders.

IrishHeart Veteran
IrishHeart
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I believe the OP said homeopath AND food allergy testing - those are 2 different tests.

One more time.

Celiac Disease is not diagnosed via allergy testing or homeopathy or by food in vials or any other means.

I'm sorry, but I AM answering her question --which was how can she be diagnosed for celiac without having to ingest gluten again because it makes her feel so bad.

The answer is: She can't.

(see Skylark's post)

The major steps leading to diagnosis of celiac disease are:

1. Blood tests for gluten autoantibodies (These are IgA based tests accurate only while on a gluten containing diet)

EMA - anti-endomysial

TTG - anti-tissue transglutaminase

DGP - Deamidated Gliadin Peptide

2. A small bowel biopsy to assess gut damage. For those with suspected dermatitis herpetiformis, skin biopsies will be taken of the health skin near the lesion.

Some doctors look at health history, family history and genetic testing as well.

That's how you get a Celiac DX.

If she wants allergy testing for a wheat allergy or other environmental allergies, that's a different story.

I will reserve my opinion regarding homeopathy, NAET, etc.

If something worked for you, that's great.

But these methods are not reliable for a Celiac Dx.

I still do not know how her friend was diagnosed with Celiac by a dietician and homeopath and allergy testing. Those people/things do NOT DX it.

Kirstie Apprentice
Kirstie
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One more time.

Celiac is not diagnosed via allergy testing or homeopathy or by food in vials or any other means.

I'm sorry, but I AM answering her question which was how can she be diagnosed for celiac without having to ingest gluten again because it makes her feel so bad.

The answer is: She can't.

(see Skylark's post)

The three major steps leading to diagnosis of celiac disease are:

1. Blood tests for gluten autoantibodies (These are IgA based tests accurate only while on a gluten containing diet)

EMA - anti-endomysial

TTG - anti-tissue transglutaminase

DGP - Deamidated Gliadin Peptide

2. A small bowel biopsy to assess gut damage. For those with suspected dermatitis herpetiformis, skin biopsies will be taken of the health skin near the lesion.

That's how you get a celiac DX.

Hi everyone, I apologise if the post was unclear, she was diagnosed with coeliac and ALSO underwent food allergy testing.

Kirstie Apprentice
Kirstie
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I have no idea how that is possible, since celiac is not an allergy.

It is an autoimmune disease and is not diagnosed by allergy testing, which is done by skin prick testing. Allergies are IgE -mediated.

These are VERY different things.

Also just to be clear I am obviously NOT hoping to be diagnosed with coeliac through allergy testing, I am aware that is impossible.

I am just wondering if anyone has had any experience with food allergies and seen a homeopath?

VydorScope Proficient
VydorScope
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There is a lot of confusion in this thread :D

But in the end, if you eat gluten and get sick AND you abstain from gluten and get better that means you have an issue with gluten of some kind and you should avoid gluten.

All testing (of any kind) will do is put a label on what kind of issue (allergy, celiac, etc) and different tests (blood, skin, stool, etc) will check for different kinds of issues.... and the end result will be the same avoid gluten.

Hence my original comment, if you know eating gluten makes you sick, why does the testing matter? A positive or negative (no test is perfect) result on the test will not change the fact you eat gluten and get sick.

VydorScope Proficient
VydorScope
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I am just wondering if anyone has had any experience with food allergies and seen a homeopath?

I have head some, and with regard to food issues it has all been negative, and that includes NAET. It is like anything else there is some good from that field, and some quackery.

IrishHeart Veteran
IrishHeart
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I agree. Some need to go get their happy pills and reading glasses.

The original poster just came back on and clarified that SHE made a mistake in stating what she was looking for. If you read what she wrote originally, all of us thought she was seeking a celiac DX through homeopathy or allergy testing without consuming gluten.

We are just trying to help.

No need to be unkind.

IrishHeart Veteran
IrishHeart
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Hi everyone, I apologise if the post was unclear, she was diagnosed with coeliac and ALSO underwent food allergy testing.

It was unclear, hon-- and we all thought you were seeking a celiac DX from the way you phrased it.

Thanks for coming back on and explaining what you meant.

:)

kareng Grand Master
kareng
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A friend of mine was diagnosed with coeliac after seeing a dietician and undergoing homeopath and food allergy testing.

I don't think a dietician could legally diagnose you with anything. She/he could help you with a healthy diet or maybe, what food to eat for certain circumstances. I have seen a lot of people on here with a Celiac diagnosis go to a dietician who told them to eat more whole wheat! :o

If you don't want to go back on gluten for your diagnosis, don't. You know you are having problems with gluten. You can tell everyone you have a gluten intolerance if they need to know.

I think that was part of your question?

Kirstie Apprentice
Kirstie
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There is a lot of confusion in this thread :D

But in the end, if you eat gluten and get sick AND you abstain from gluten and get better that means you have an issue with gluten of some kind and you should avoid gluten.

All testing (of any kind) will do is put a label on what kind of issue (allergy, celiac, etc) and different tests (blood, skin, stool, etc) will check for different kinds of issues.... and the end result will be the same avoid gluten.

Hence my original comment, if you know eating gluten makes you sick, why does the testing matter? A positive or negative (no test is perfect) result on the test will not change the fact you eat gluten and get sick.

You don't seem to understand what it is I am saying, I am not wanting to be tested for anything relating to gluten. I am off gluten and happy because of it, end of story.

However I am concerned I may be suffering from food allergies and wondering what people who may have visited a homeopath experienced, since my friend's visit was very positive.

I am also considering seeing a dietician to be sure I am eating healthy and getting everything I need now I've stopped eating gluten.

kareng Grand Master
kareng
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You don't seem to understand what it is I am saying, I am not wanting to be tested for anything relating to gluten. I am off gluten and happy because of it, end of story.

However I am concerned I may be suffering from food allergies and wondering what people who may have visited a homeopath experienced, since my friend's visit was very positive.

I am also considering seeing a dietician to be sure I am eating healthy and getting everything I need now I've stopped eating gluten.

OK! Now I think I get it! :D

A lot of people on here have had good luck with elimination diets. That seems to be the best way to see if a food bothers you. Like what you have done with gluten. I assume you must be having some issues you think might be related to another food? You could certainly try eliminating some of the common allergens like dairy, soy, eggs, corn, nightshades. There have been some posts about elimination diets you might be able to find using the google in the upper right corner.

VydorScope Proficient
VydorScope
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However I am concerned I may be suffering from food allergies and wondering what people who may have visited a homeopath experienced, since my friend's visit was very positive.

I am also considering seeing a dietician to be sure I am eating healthy and getting everything I need now I've stopped eating gluten.

I think the visit to the dietician could be very helpful, but I have never seen one.

In my experience, homeopath for food allergies is a poor choice, esply the NAET test as I said, and would suggest you see a more traditional allergy doctor.

VydorScope Proficient
VydorScope
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OK! Now I think I get it! :D

A lot of people on here have had good luck with elimination diets. That seems to be the best way to see if a food bothers you. Like what you have done with gluten. I assume you must be having some issues you think might be related to another food? You could certainly try eliminating some of the common allergens like dairy, soy, eggs, corn, nightshades. There have been some posts about elimination diets you might be able to find using the google in the upper right corner.

The elimination diet, IMO, is the best tool... but it is very tedious and time consuming to do correctly. An allergy test by a doctor could help save time on that.

Kirstie Apprentice
Kirstie
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OK! Now I think I get it! :D

A lot of people on here have had good luck with elimination diets. That seems to be the best way to see if a food bothers you. Like what you have done with gluten. I assume you must be having some issues you think might be related to another food? You could certainly try eliminating some of the common allergens like dairy, soy, eggs, corn, nightshades. There have been some posts about elimination diets you might be able to find using the google in the upper right corner.

Sorry if this is confusing! I wrote it rather hurried this morning.

I'm just feeling pretty weak and tired all of the time, it could be from the gluten still but I'm concerned it could be some other food also? I'm just wondering if there would be any point in seeing a specialist for some guidance, as I know what's making me sick even if the doctor's don't!

Thanks for your suggestion, I'll do some research! :)

Kirstie Apprentice
Kirstie
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I think the visit to the dietician could be very helpful, but I have never seen one.

In my experience, homeopath for food allergies is a poor choice, esply the NAET test as I said, and would suggest you see a more traditional allergy doctor.

Yes I think you may be right, I'm going to research further and see what I come up with. I just know homeopath is an option and was wondering if anyone had any experience with it :)

kareng Grand Master
kareng
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Sorry if this is confusing! I wrote it rather hurried this morning.

I'm just feeling pretty weak and tired all of the time, it could be from the gluten still but I'm concerned it could be some other food also? I'm just wondering if there would be any point in seeing a specialist for some guidance, as I know what's making me sick even if the doctor's don't!

Thanks for your suggestion, I'll do some research! :)

You could go to a "regular" doctor and get tested for thyroid, iron, ferritin, B12 & D. Anemia, thyroid issues, B12 or D deficiencies can make you tired. It takes a while for the intestines to heal and to be able to absorb the nutrients again.

Kirstie Apprentice
Kirstie
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It was unclear, hon-- and we all thought you were seeking a celiac DX from the way you phrased it.

Thanks for coming back on and explaining what you meant.

:)

That's okay! Sorry for the confusion, I've had a horrible day feeling so weak and tired and not knowing why! My minds been all over the place and I wrote that post rather quickly this morning, before randomly sleeping for a few hours :(

I just feel so frustrated with all of the confusion, constantly feeling ill and useless doctors I've been seeing!

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