Lisa

No current method of testing is 100% reliable. The blood test can show false negatives and the biopsy can miss the effected areas. A positive dietary response is a fairly good indicater.

Good luck with your testing and remain on a full gluten diet until you have exaused your testing options for best accuracy.

I would eat a product, providing I checked the ingredients as listed and it was not produced a a facility that produced other products that included wheat as an ingredient.

Often times, it's a CYA Statement. Combined information would make a good choice.

Gentleheart,

I think the your question about Dr. Fine may never be resolved here. Even on the Internet there is little information on Dr. Fine and Enterolabs, excluding this never ending discussion and Dr. Fine's own web information.

I would encourage you to continue to seek medical advise. Unresolved health issues should not be accepted as a compromised quality of live. There is an answer.

I hope you find yours soon.

BACK to Dr. Fine and his Enterolab validity.....

Or, can we assume that both sides of the discussion have been adequately represented? I think my cows are home.

Here is an additional article regarding the accuracy of ELISA testing for food allergies. Nothing is 100%.

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Mission of The Institute

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The mission of the Intestinal Health Institute is to improve intestinal and overall health and nutrition through medical research, public service, and education. We are working for your Health, Happiness, and Hope!

The intestinal Health Institute was conceived because of the public health implications of the scientific discoveries and teaching experience of Kenneth Fine, M.D., a professor, intestinal researcher, and publisher of scientific journal articles for over 20 years. Dr. Fine is determined to bring the benefits of his research and his passion for teaching to those who need it most: the people of the United States and the World. By utilizing the power of the internet and the public's free access to it, the long delay associated with dissemination of new information through the medical ranks to patients (usually 10-15 years) can be bypassed. People can benefit today!

You too can make your tax deductible contribution to Dr. Fine's Health Institute.

Deb, are you positive about this?

is there a generic brand of this? Maybe that's some of the confusion I'm finding.

i was researching for a friend who uses it and also on a couple forums and celiac alert (I think) and the consensious was that it was gluten-free...........man it gets so dang confusing.

Guess she'll have to call the company.

I use the soft Gas-X the little green ones. They seem to work for me.

Think i called about them at one point.

i can't keep all this is my head anymore, esp since companies keep changing the ingredients.

thanks Deb, Judy

Here's a listing Judy:

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They must be using a broader range of signs and symptoms to diagnose in Europe than here.

mamabear, I read an article recently that suggests that the diagnostic envelope, that US doctors use for Celiac Disease, is far too narrow, compared to their European counterparts.

(wishing I could put my hands on that article)

I was looking at some posts and am a little confused on which of the Gas-X's are Gluten Free.

I read more that the Soft Gels were so I got a box today.

Gas-X Softgels Extra Stength -- Antigas - Simethicone 125mg

Active Ingredient: Simethicone 125mg

Inactive Ingredients: D&C yellow 10, FD&C blue 1, FD&C red 40, gelatin, glycerin, hypromellose, peppermint oil, purified water, sorbitol, titamium dioxide.

Thank you very much!

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I thought this link was interesting.

It lists Enterolabs with four employees and it's annual income at $170,000 ( it did not conveny with the link), which I find interesting due to the fact that so many posters here have used their services.

I would recommend Triumph Dining Cards. You can read about them at www.triumphdining.com.

They have dining cards in several languages with an explanation about dietary needs when preparing food.

Welcome Christy,

The diagnostic tests available are not as accurate as we would like. And if you feel the shoe fits, try the diet. It needs no RX from your doctor. Many people here are self diagnosed and feel comfortable about that decision.

If you have a positive dietary response to the diet, with a family history, you very may have Celiac or a gluten sensitivity.

The diet is tricky in the begining. There are lots of people here who can help you through it.

And what do you call yourself? How about "on the road to good health"?

Extensive article about food "allergy" testing. How and what they mean.

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Sounds wonderful!

considering the huge database of information that he has accumulated over the years, I doubt very seriously if the government will let him publish his statistics & information. If you think everyone has free speech think again. Just like this board that has moderators, to filter out undesirable posts, the people that review these reports have a much larger filter. He would not be the first person under censorship scrutiny, nor the last.

Talk about problems, ever stop to think what would happen if 75% of this country stopped eating gluten grains? There would be problems with the food supply, the medical industry, farm subsidies, and all the problems that would happen if 75% of the population lived an extra 20 years, housing problems, social security problems. In addition there would be problems in the job market because 75% of the workforce would be healthy & would not retire.

In addition to that if it became "official" that wheat was a major problem for most people, then we could not send all that wheat over to third world countries to feed the poor & save them from starvation.

I do not see any other doctors reporting anything celiac related for peer review. If so, I have not read anything about it, nor am I likely to. Maybe another country, but not in the U.S., dare I say never, or at least not anytime soon?

Is it just me, or did anyone else notice how General Mills took that big GLuten Free statement off the front of their package?

I don't think that there is a vast governmental conspiracy to suppress information regarding the dangers of grain in the US or the world.

Dr. Peter Green, is well respected and his research is well known:

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People can argue about the pros and cons of Enterolabs till the cows come home. I don't think that it will change minds. It always remains a very hot topic.

But, I have often wondered why those (no one in particular) who support Enterolabs and their work, argue so vehemently.

Maltodextrin should not be a problem in the US, unless, as you said it is labeled "...wheat".

Did either one of those products contain MSG? Many here are sensitive to MSG, although it is not gluten related.

Would a bird fed regulaly on wheat actually accumulate the wheat in it's flesh?

NO.

The Serologic Blood Panel is not as accurate as we would like, and children under the age of five, it adds additional inaccuracies.

You can biopsy at the site of the outbreak and obtain a Celiac diagnosis if it test positive for DH.

I would not begin the gluten free diet until all testing is done.

Take a deep breath.

The alcohol in the vanilla is likely gluten free. No problem there.

The seasoning, has a very high likelihood of being gluten free as well.

Learning the diet is hard and frustrating many times, but you can't expect everyone to do EXACTLY as you would do. I hope you can eat that soup and enjoy the rest of your holiday with your family.

Just want to welcome you. There is lot of information here. Take a walk around>

Hi Jason,

I have Triumph Dining Cards. It explains what Celiac is and what foods are off limits, in many different languages. It has helped me a lot.

If you can eat during off times, they might be able to make you a special meal using your own gluten free soy sauce. If you can be a little flexible, you can eat just as well as anyone else.

Also, you can keep bottle of LaChoy Soy Sauce with you.

I am glad that everything is progressing well for you.

After several months, I too had problems. I gave up dairy for a few months and after that, I had no problem.

I think that after you eliminate the gluten, smaller voices can be heard. In your case and mine, dairy.

Alice Bast and the NFCA Team

GREAT PUMPKIN PIE CAKE

from Nancy Baker, National Foundation for Celiac Awareness, G.R.E.A.T.

1 box yellow or white cake mix (minus 1 cup)

1 stick butter, melted

1 egg, beaten

Set aside one cup of cake mix. Mix together cake mix (minus 1 cup), butter and egg. Press into 9"x13" greased pan.

1 large can pumpkin

3 eggs, beaten

1/2 cup brown sugar

1/2 cup white sugar

2/3 cup evaporated milk

1 1/2 teaspoon cinnamon

1/4 teaspoon cloves

1/4 teaspoon nutmeg

1/2 teaspoon ginger

In large pan combine pumpkin, 3 eggs, brown sugar, white sugar, milk, cinnamon, cloves, nutmeg and ginger. Spread over cake mixture.

1 cup cake mix

1/2 cup sugar

1/2 cup chopped nuts

1/2 stick butter

Mix and sprinkle over top of mix. Bake at 350 degrees for 45 to 60 minutes.

TIPS:

Do not over-mix gluten-free cake mix . (Gluten-free mixes will "gum" up)

Make sure that greased pan utilizes an oil or spray that does not contain gluten nor flour (Baker's Joy contains flour).

Do not use the fan on your oven to bake.

If the top of the cake bakes more quickly and browns, place a foil sheet over the top until the rest is completely baked.

Testing of a gluten-free cake is the same as with a "regular" cake. Insert a toothpick into the center and remove. If the toothpick is clean, the cake is baked.

NOTE: Did you know that many "shortcut" recipes call for a cake mix? Many gluten-free brands can be substituted one for mainstream brands. Four that work well are:

Pamela's Classic Vanilla Cake Mix

Arrowhead Mills Vanilla Cake Mix

Gluten-free Pantry Old Fashioned Cake Mix

Cherrybrook Kitchen Yellow Cake Mix

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the top section of the recipe might work.

OK, so someone please explain why there's a grayish statue/bust showing up in people's avatars Am I missing something? Is it some kind of fad going around the Internet or something?

Thanks.

That would be Sam Hill. SOMEbody let him get out!