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I am blissfully ignoring all talk of coffee enemas.

Perhaps we need a standard "YOU ARE A TERRIBLE DOCTOR" letter although we could have alternate endings, one being "and besides all that you weren't even cute to look at" or "your cuteness is not enough, you are an idiot."

I love it!

I was tested through Enterolabs, but that merely confirmed what I already knew. I will probably not ever be able to eat dairy regularly. I did buy a very small (6 oz) container of plain (unflavored, unsweetened) goatmilk yogurt last week...I ate half of it one day and half the next. That's it, I don't think I could eat more than that and be okay. Half the container seemed to work okay, but I think if I ate it every day I'd have problems.

Donna and Susan I love the art work- I might have to post some of mine too!!

Oh YES!!!! Please do!!!

A lyme out!

Bad doctors indeed!!!!

Waiting anxiously for Bev's doctor appointment info!

Donna.....what about you?? Are you taking any garlic??

Sooo....I'm getting all the stuff I'm interested in taking.....I'll be bringing all of it to my ART session this weekend.

I'm trying everything ahead of time to see how well I'm tolerating it...then see what ART says.

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WOOHOO.....is it almost Sunday yet??

I'm excited for your appointment too! But, why was I thinking it was Saturday really early?! Okay, so SUNDAY, I'll be waiting anxiously to hear.

I'm not taking garlic yet...I AM trying to add fresh garlic to my dinner...but I'm cooking it, so I'm thinking it's not beneficial that way. I'm going to try the one you mentioned...sounds good.

I've almost got all the supplements that Dr. S and Scott and Anna have given me added in now...Scott wants me to up the dose on a couple, and I need to increase my chlorella dosage...once I get that all done, then I'll start some extra stuff like the garlic. I want to be sure that I'm adding stuff slowly enough so I can tell what's doing what or what's causing what, so I'm not changing dosage or adding things more often than every 4 days.

I still need to get alpha lipoic acid...and there were two more things on Dr. S's list, but now I can't find the list. Oh well...

I love your new avatar! It is even better than the last painting you did! The scene is so peaceful. This is like being on a nice beach next to the ocean. You can practically hear the seagulls!

I know what you mean with the weightloss and boobs. I am losing weight now, and my boobs are shrinking! I always seem to lose the weight in the wrong spots. My trouble area is my lower body. I have a larger butt, hips, and thighs.

Thank you...one of my "Bob Ross" paintings, I carry all my weight in my legs. The rest of my body is fairly normal but I carry a lot of fat on my legs...they're all dimply. YUCK!

LOVE your method of voting...it's as good as any other method! All politicians are alike (at least the ones we've seen so far)...doesn't matter which party they belong to. Might as well have a good looking one.

Your appointment sounds encouraging and hopefully your doctor will like Igenix!

Now THAT is a plan! maybe we should apply that to IDIOT doctors too (I still like my doctors BTW but have seem my fair share of eejits too!). If the doctor is evalauted as an eejit, then you have grounds to fire him/her unless they are good looking. Then you can just not listen to anything they say and observe their "good lookingness". as the wise sage Zoolander said, it's all about being "really, really really good looking" until you lose your friends in a freak accidental gasoline fight

Hum, not sure I can put up with eejits even if they ARE good looking though.

Wild about your other family members!

Other than that, I'm out of ideas. I'll definitely keep reading this thread and see if anything sticks out to me.

That's how most of us figured out what was wrong with us...we started posting on this thread, and reading, reading, reading...someone post something (usually RACHEL, lol) and it just fits perfectly. I would have never, NEVER, in a million years suspected lyme had it not been for this thread.

I did suspect candida and probably metals toxicity because I had a mouthful of amalgams and gold crowns...just had those out in November and January. I also have mold toxicity, which I suppose I should have known, but didn't really, until this thread... The LLMD found all of this and lyme!

I'm perfectly happy with what God gave me.

I mostly am. Still, if I had lots of money....

Hi, everyone,

I posted on a separate thread about seeing a naturopath/homeopath, and Andrea suggested I post here about my symptoms. Thanks for letting me jump in!

Hi Julie, welcome!!! I posted on your thread, but haven't gone back yet to read more. Diarrhea is one of my main problems. I've had it for about a year and a half now. They've also run lots of tests on me...lots of stool tests, I had a colonoscopy, and on and on. I don't have colitis, I don't have any of the other things that conventional medicine looks for.

I started going to an integrated health clinic in November...they put me on an elimination diet and ran some other testing and found H Pylori and Klebsiella, but not C.Diff, which is what everyone thought it was.

In January I started with an alternative method called BioSET. They've been VERY helpful in finding out all the various foods, additives, environmental stuff, etc. that I am sensitive to...avoiding as much as I can has helped a little. They've also found bacterial infections, one of which was staph.

In April I did another alternative test called ART, which found bacterial infections and lyme.

In May I started seeing a doctor who treats lyme, mercury toxicity, etc. This is the LLMD that Andrea talked about in the other thread...he has tested me for a BUNCH of stuff besides lyme and found a lot of issues.

Warning...more scatology talk

All of these doctors/practitioners have me on herbs and supplements, which actually seem to be helping me...I am currently down to two trips to the bathroom and they are almost normal.

For the last two weeks though I was making 5-7 trips and it was pure water.

I have a guy friend who says "any boob is a good boob", so I guess size doesn't matter ...

Just wanted to throw in that we don't ALL like the emaciated look.

Or the oversized plastic boobs.

Hallelujah!!! Yippee!!! There's hope then.

Am I the only one who doesn't know who Michael Moore is?

I didn't know either.

I'm not even sure it has anything to do with weight though...

I think when I was healthy I just was alot more happy....more extroverted, full of life, laughing alot, etc. Now I dont have that same energy....I probably dont laugh or smile nearly as much....even if I look exactly the same...I find people take more notice when a person is looking happy and smiling.

Thats what draws me to a person.....I notice a smile before anything else. If the person didnt smile...I may walk right past without ever noticing them.

Since I gained weight back...I'm not that far off from where I was before getting sick. The main difference is how I feel on the inside...and it does show on the outside when I'm feeling bad, tired and just not having that certain "glow" of happiness. People notice that.

Well, I definitely smile more and am more outgoing at my current weight than I was even 10 pounds heavier. Sad thing in my case though...normal weight = no boobs.

Hi everybody! just a drive-by - - - doing about one million things today, while I procrastinate in my job hunt.

Love the new avatar!!

I've recently begun seeing a naturopath and some more integrated doctors. After years of suffering with diarrhea and other digestive issues and having all sorts of testing run by conventional doctors, I turned to the more alternative methods and so far I'm very pleased.

Donna - I was really glad to hear you have had a similar experience to me - anesthesia has also caused me to feel very unwell and to throw up. I'm glad to hear that the sedation did not have this effect on you. I will definitely mention this to the nurses on the day, and list it as a special concern on my consent forms. When you say they may be able to put something in or adjust the dose, are you referring to an anti-emetic or anti-nausea medication, or just to being given a smaller dose of sedatives to mimise the side effects?

I think they did both for me...they may have put something in like an anti-nausea med, but I also think they adjusted the dose. They also told me that there were some different sedations they could use and if you know the specific one that you react to they can use a different one. I didn't know which one I had been given, so I'm pretty sure he must have just added anti-nausea stuff and adjusted the dose.

I was pretty groggy after the first scope (which also included a colonoscopy)...took me a while to come out of it, but I felt good. I'm thinking in this one they may have just added antinausea stuff.

The second and third scopes I came out pretty quickly and was much less groggy, so I'm thinking in those two instances the guy lowered my dose and maybe added antinausea stuff.

I had VERY nice helpful people who worked on me throughout the whole procedure!

Jin- It's funny (not funny ha ha but funny ironic) that you actually said Lyme and fatal in the same sentence. I don't think people realize this. I didn't. Until saturday at my BIL's cookout TWO people said to me, "My God, if you've had it for four years you're lucky you didn't die." I'm too stubborn to do that.

But my friend, the MD, said that many Lyme patients commit suicide because doctors don't know what's wrong with them and they think they are doomed to a life of feeling sick. Or in neuro-Lyme they become so depressed that they commit suicide.

I told her that there were times that I thought about it but I was lucky in that I had two things going for me- a gut feeling that something systemic was going on and that I wasn't going to stop until I got an answer (I'm STUBBORN )

and that I had a lot of SUPPORT. I didn't go on to explain but you guys were first and foremost in my mind. If I didn't have you guys to laugh, cry, scientificate (new word?) and just generally hang with I seriously think I would have lost it long ago. :wub: :wub: :wub:

I've been reading on lymenet about some of the people who have died from it...it's really very sad!

I'm pretty stubborn too, but in a lazy sort of way. Quite a few of my friends have now heard about this thread. I talk to them, but it's not quite the same because none of them really knows about any of the stuff we talk about...I was truly SHOCKED when one of my friends pushed me to get the lyme testing. She knows a little about it, but she's the only one.

And, definitely couldn't talk about scatology with them.

the 2 brands I've eaten are Aarons and Empire chicken... I seem to react better to these chicken legs than the WF chicken I've eaten... I also prefer the Kosher lamb chops to the Wegmans organic lamb chops, and it's not even close though that probably depends on the butcher/store and where they get it from...

Ha, I didn't know they had kosher chicken! Glad to hear WF has some...I'll ask and maybe try some this week. I miss chicken!!!

I am so glad for this thread, it really encourages me to keep working on my health.

Ditto!!! Gosh, if it weren't for this thread, I would have NEVER found out about my lyme!!! I doubt I would have given serious consideration to metals either...would have spent the rest of my life thinking I had a candida issue only.

Mia, we do love you and are concerned about your health.

thank you so much for the info. I have an appt (I set it up yesturday) for a new doctor who specializes in heavy metal toxicity and he has a partner he works with who specializes in lyme, they will perform any testing I need and I will bring in all my old tests for them to look at. these are the main things that came out of my doctors appt. yesturday. The doctor sounds pretty good I pm'd andrea alittle more detail on him I can do the same for you- Did you get my last Pm I forgot there was something else I wanted to add to it. Iw ill have to do that later.

DITTO!!!!! I have been very worried about you and I'm glad you are moving forward with a new doctor. It took most of us a few tries before we found the right one. There are lots of ways they can treat the lyme...I'm on herbs and supplements now...the antibiotics will probably come later. The candida can be treated simultaneously if necessary.

yes money is an issue but my health is my top priority. I will find a way to pay I just need to figure out the irght treatment. I would give up anything, borrow money, be in debt, anything!!!, if i could be healthy again!!!

I love you guys-- Thank you so much for your support, concern, and pushing me in the right direction.

I think you can see that we love you back! This is how I feel too...I really can't afford the testing, but I've got to do it...I could feel my health really slipping badly in the last year...it just would have gotten worse and worse I think.

More on glutathione (not sure if this was one of the things you quoted or linked to Rachel...didn't have time at work today to really look at stuff)...

This article gives me hope that I can take the undenatured whey...maybe even in goat version if necessary...it also mentions the type of liquid glutathione I'm taking...liposomal. I found this article on a thread at lymnet on DMSA safety (well, actually it was a link in a reply to that thread).

Open Original Shared Link

There are several ways to augment one's glutathione. It is a good idea to proceed slowly at first if glutathione has been depleted for an extended period of time (months to years), because toxins and infections may have been allowed to build up in the absence of sufficient glutathione to keep them under control. If glutathione is then brought up rapidly, the mobilization of toxins can produce a Jarisch Herxheimer reaction, which is an exacerbation of symptoms that can make a person feel very unpleasant. Also, see the particular comments about mercury below.

Here are some approaches for building glutathione (Note that names of products, laboratories and suppliers are given for information only, not as recommendations. There may be others not mentioned that are satisfactory):

1. Oral supplements, such as the "nondenatured" or "native" whey protein products (ImmunoPro Rx or RenewPro), the "undenatured" whey protein products (e.g. Immunocal, ImuPlus, etc.), such as from http.//www.immunesupport.com or Open Original Shared Link or Open Original Shared Link, the fermented goat-milk-based version of whey protein, Goatein, available from www.gardenoflifeusa.com, amino acid precursors including N-acetylcysteine, glycine and glutamic acid (such as from Jeff Clark at http://www.cfsn.com), N-acetylcysteine together with dietary protein, or reduced glutathione supplements per se, both available from health food stores. One supplier of oral reduced glutathione is Open Original Shared Link.

A relatively new oral supplement is Lipoceutical Glutathione, which is reduced glutathione encapsulated in tiny liposomes made from soy-based phosphatidylcholine, available from Open Original Shared Link. This latter form is relatively expensive, but more of the glutathione is absorbed intact and appears to be carried to various cells of the body encapsulated in the liposomes.

Another liposomal form of glutathione called LipoFlow is available at Open Original Shared Link. (See update at bottom of page for more information on these products.)

No prescription is required for the above oral supplements.

ImmunoPro Rx and RenewPro are actually "native" or "nondenatured,"being made from whey that has not been heated to high temperatures or treated with acid as in cheese making, which the "undenatured" products' starting material have undergone, so that they have more cysteine present as actual cysteine per se rather than the oxidized form cystine, and cysteine is more useable by the liver for making glutathione, particularly in a person who is depleted in glutathione.

The "undenatured" and "nondenatured" whey protein products can be problematical for those with allergies to whey proteins, and the goat-milk based version Goatein may be helpful in such cases, even though the fermentation process likely converts much of the cysteine to cystine. Many people with dairy allergies are actually sensitivities to pasteurized milk proteins or allergies to casein, which is the part of milk protein that goes into the curd fraction, rather than into whey, so a dairy food allergy or sensitivity may not be an allergy to nondenatured whey protein.

The amino acid precursors should not present problems of allergic reactions, but should be taken with high quality dietary protein to ensure that they are used effectively and that if mercury is present, its transport into the brain is not encouraged. Some PWCs do not tolerate glutamic acid well. In such cases, glutamine (or better yet, a product called Glutimmune, available from http://www.wellwisdom.com) can be substituted for the glutamic acid, and taken together with N-acetylcysteine and glycine.

The reduced glutathione supplements are a more expensive approach than the whey or NAC-based approaches. Free reduced glutathione appears to be largely broken down in the gut into amino acids, so there is probably not an advantage to taking regular capsules of reduced glutathione per se except for the cells of the intestines themselves, but Lipoceutical Glutathione is not significantly broken down in the gut and is able to enter cells in its intact form more easily, and LipoFlow likely behaves similarly. These latter two products may actually be absorbed through the wall of the stomach.

If there is a high level of mercury in the body, such as can occur if glutathione has been low for an extended period of time (months to years) and the person either has silver amalgam fillings in their teeth or they have consumed a significant amount of large, predatory fish, including tuna, then caution should be exercised by limiting the dosages of oral supplements that supply amino acids to the liver for making glutathione. There are two reasons for this:

The first is that mercury can be moved into the brain from other parts of the body by cysteine or N-acetylcysteine if the dosages are too high. Dr. David Quig of Doctors Data Laboratories recommends limiting the dosage of NAC to 300 mg per day and taking it with a high protein diet if heavy metals are elevated.

The second reason is that mercury can block the utilization of cysteine, and if cysteine rises too high, it can act as a neurotoxin. (This last is also the reason L-cysteine is not recommended as a supplement for building glutathione.) It's a good idea to measure the blood plasma level of cysteine periodically when building glutathione, to make sure it is not rising too high.

If elevated mercury is suspected, it is a good idea to test for mercury and detox it carefully if it is present, with the help of a doctor experienced in doing this. The best test is a collection of urine for 6 hours, preceded by a challenge with the chelator DMSA (succimer). A very small dosage of DMSA should be tried first, to make sure there is not an allergic reaction to it. A test of this type is offered as a Toxic Metals Panel by

Open Original Shared Link.

If there is elevated mercury, it may also be wise to begin building glutathione using one of the approaches below, which put glutathione per se into the blood, rather than one of the oral approaches that help the liver to make glutathione. This may help to remove the mercury more "gently," starting with the kidneys, which absorb most of the glutathione put directly into the blood.

Oral supplements are probably the best way to raise the glutathione level in the liver, since the liver gets first access to oral supplements via the portal vein, and it is normally the main producer of glutathione in the body and an exporter of glutathione to the systemic blood and the bile. The liver is probably not able to take glutathione from the blood for its own use, so approaches that put glutathione per se into the blood probably are not very helpful in directly building glutathione in the liver.

2. Intramuscular injections, as pioneered by Dr. Patricia Salvato in Houston. She injects 100 mg of glutathione with 1 mg of ATP, intramuscularly, 2 times per week. One source of IM glutathione is McGuff Compounding Pharmacy in Santa Ana, CA (phone: (877) 444-1133, fax: (877)444-1155). This probably benefits most the muscle into which it is injected, but it is also reported to have systemic effects.

3. Intravenous injections, and particularly fast I.V. pushes, as advocated and used by Dr. Patricia Kane and her co-authors of The Detoxx Book (www.detoxxbook.com) as part of their overall detox protocol. The book says they do an I.V. push over 3 to 5 minutes starting with 1,500 mg of glutathione in 12 cc of sterile water for adults, and going as high as 2,500 mg in 15 cc of sterile water, one to two time per week for 3 to 6 months or more. They suggest Wellness Health and Pharmaceuticals in Birmingham, AL as the source for injectable reduced glutathione (phone: (800)227-2627, fax: (205)879-6551).

Intravenous glutathione injections seem to be becoming more prevalent. I think they were pioneered in the U.S. by Dr. David Perlmutter (after initial work in Italy by Dr. Secchi) for the treatment of Parkinson's disease, but they are being used in other disorders as well. Several cell types are able to extract glutathione from the blood, break it down, import the pieces, and resynthesize it inside the cell, via the gamma glutamyl cycle. Other types of cells can import glutathione intact from the blood. This approach requires a visit to a doctor's office, and it is relatively expensive to get these injections repeatedly.

(*From Sue Bailey: I've just learned of another source for IV glutathione fast pushes:www.Infuserveamerica.com/index.htm I think there are several good things about Infuserve America; They are cheaper. A pre-loaded syringe containing 2000 mg of glutathione is $12.50. (This is the wholesale price, and they explain on the website how they can sell it so cheap. ( 2.) A pre-loaded syringe is easier to use. With Wellness, I had to pay for and use four separate items--a 30 ml syringe, a disposable needle, a vial of glutathione and a vial of normal saline. Then I had to draw the two liquids into the syringe. Infuserve makes up a new batch of GSH every week).

I grew up in Mt. Prospect, IL, just a couple miles outside Chicago (Go Bears!) but spent most of my adult life in the bay area - San Jose & Fremont. Right now I'm in Phx, where the forecast is 107/108F today! Ugh.

I'm so sorry about your brothers!

We were neighbors then. I grew up in San Jose and spent most of my life there, until I moved to Hawaii for a short time...I'm back in the bay area now though. One of my sisters moved to Arizona a couple of years ago. She likes it hot...I don't. I really need to go visit her...I've not been there yet.

Murph, I take NT Factor for fatigue. It helps a lot. Donna takes it, too. You have to get it through a doc, so maybe one of your naturopaths can get it for you.

Yes, and I think it is really helping me too. I noticed a difference in just a few days.

Yeah...I'm thinking he probably does use the IV's for glutathione so I'm gonna ask him...I think I see him in about 3 weeks.

I may ask him too...by IVs I'm assuming that just means by vein...and not necessarily (although could be) getting hooked up to an IV. The one time I had my blood drawn there, there was a girl hooked up to an IV. If I could go a couple of times a week for a shot, that'd be okay. I see him somewhere around the 25th...whatever that Tuesday is. I'm almost out of the liquid stuff I have...may have to buy one more before I see him.

Grump is a guy too, right?, so we have 3 regular male posters now...

This test makes Enterolab's look like a walk in the park. First, there is nothing to hold the tray, which looks like a french fry container ... or a hot dog container ... like at a fair or something. Then it has to be scooped into a vial and mixed with a fluid.

Yep, I've done a few like this...once they gave me a container the size of a small margine tub! Um, I don't think so, lol. Last time I just covered the bowl with plastic wrap ... much larger, lol. HATE, HATE, HATE scooping it into the little fluid filled tubes!!!!

Now I forgot everything I'd written except for saying I'm a guy.

Yay, another regular guy poster! Okay, so you can have slippers other than pink if you want.

I'd like to see one that says "Ticks Happen".

ok I am confused about my c d 57 results Mine is 26- any opinions

I am not surprised! I would expect that yours would be very low just by how badly you've been feeling.

Is anyone else taking any kind of glutathione??

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So...is anyone else on any glutathione IV....or any precurser to glutathione?? I think it might be helping me but its too soon to know for sure.

Dr. S has me on a liquid glutathione...I've read that same article about it that you posted and was wondering why he has me on the oral...he DID say that if I have gut issues we can do IVs for most of this stuff. He did not put me on any of the precursors I don't think...didn't see any of mine mentioned in that article.

Hey! Anyone else like America's Test Kitchen on PBS? Nothing gluten-free there, but for me starting w/ so little cooking knowledge, it's been great.

I love that show! I don't cook worth beans, but I like watching cooking shows and I like buying cookbooks.

Mia- That is so funny. I want to make a tshirt for all of us that says "TICKS BITE!"

It's like I want to be warm but then I get heat and I feel sick. I last about 5 minutes in a hot bath, hot tub, sauna, etc.

Yep, this has been happening to me too. The bubble/epsom salt bath I took on Tuesday was so hot I could only stay in there 10 minutes...that was too long...I should have added a little cold water so I could soak longer.

I still like what I order from us wellness meats. We are out of chicken and can't order again til August so it will be sheltons turkey products and beef for us till then.

They had some flyers at BioSET for US Wellness stuff...I think there was a little discount or maybe free shipping or something...I may consider ordering something from them.

I've also had problems with chicken for the same reason...I'm hypersensitive and some chicken has given me some bad reactions....totally toxic.

Andrea...I forgot to tell you!!!! That Rosie chicken must be loaded with mycotoxins.

I couldnt eat any of it w/out feeling gross and all swollen. I never saw another organic brand at WF until last week. I bought this other brand....it LOOKS different....it COOKS different....it TASTES way better!!

AND....I dont get any symptoms from it!!!

That other chicken is toxic....I think thats why it looks more "yellow" and its very sticky and rubbery compared to the stuff I'm getting now...which actually has good flavor and isnt sticky at all. The Rosie chicken was making my head swell same as if I was eating nuts or corn chips.

Even I can't eat the Rosie chicken! Maybe I'll look for the other brand at WF and try it. I'm waiting for my BioSET treatment to take hold before I go gunho on it though...chicken tested badly for me at BioSET.

Donna, I completely agree with jin, your paintings are wonderful. As I said before, I think Rachelville definitely needs an art gallery.

Why thank you! Will post more later...

Oh for an avocado! I miss them.

I tend to get sick from anesthesia or sedation. When I had my hysterectomy a few years ago I got very sick after I came out of the anesthesia...throwing up and all.

I was worried about that when I went in for my endoscopy/colonoscopy last year. First of all, it's not anesthesia in the true sense...it is sedation. I did tell the nurse who was administering the sedation that I tend to get sick from something...either pain meds or anesthesia/sedation. I did feel a bit woozy afterwards, but did not get sick. I had a feeling of lightheadedness the rest of the day though...still, not bad.

I had to have two more endoscopes after that last year, and both times I mentioned the sickness thing to the nurse who administers the sedation and on both of those times, I felt fine afterwards...no sign of sickness at all.

Make sure you also mention it to the person administering the sedation, they can put something in or adjust dosages, etc. to help you out...the doctor may not remember to tell them when the time comes.

The procedures themselves...well, I don't remember any of it from the time I got the IV to the time I woke up in the recovery area. I had very slight sore throat afterward, hardly enough to notice really.

The nurses were all wonderful with me, so hopefully you can tell them you are nervous and they will set you at ease!

Okay, so I'm weird...I'm cold all the time, but I can't stand the heat...what does THAT mean!? I know...weirdo.

I just skimmed ... I got a letter from my insurance company this week asking if I had other insurance that is also covering my treatment (we don't).

I haven't turned in any LLMD bills because I don't want them to know I have a Lyme diagnosis. I didn't turn in my IGeneX test either. So far, they've been covering the meds ... but I don't think they actually know what I have.

They also cover my monthly blood work.

I found the letter curious.

This is kinda weird...if I have to do actual meds/antibiotics I don't think I'll use my regular pharmacy and won't give them my insurance info, but I have turned in my LLMD visits and the Igenix and other testing...at least they can see that I wasn't ONLY tested for lyme.

Donna and Carla -- the toxins - you can switch to acrylics - DID I SAY THAT??? - - or watercolor. I hate acrylics....but they don't stink, at least....I still paint in oils, toxins be damned!

I can't get acrylics to do what I want...and I've even tried it with the mediums that they make for acrylics...but then the chemical thing comes in again. Watercolor...I just gave up on that, lol...I need to COVER up my mistakes and you just can't do it with watercolor.

The one I still need to retest is my Transfer Factor. I took it the same time I was taking Vitamin C. After 2 days I stopped both...not knowing which was the culprit behind the mouth blisters. I've since found out its Vitamin C....so I gotta retry the Transfer Factor and see how I do.

I think I've done okay on the Transfer Factor...I've been taking 1 before bed, but Scott wants me to try 2 before bed. Done that the last two nights and so far so good.

From Dr. Klinghardts lecture on mercury that I posted earlier in the year...

Thanks for the info again...I think this was the post that woke me up a few months ago.

Scott did a pretty good impression of Dr. Klinghardt on Saturday.

Now THAT is interesting. I HATE the heat. Anything above 85 makes me feel like I'm gonna die. When I say I am "cold" it's more that I have chills. I used to be able to tolerate heat but now it makes me feel like arse.

Yes, this describes me EXACTLY!!!

Just trying to figure out what else might be keeping me from getting well. Still incredibly fatigued from the littlest thing. I've come to accept having to sit down and rest twice just while making a simple freaking salad.

And too many days where I can't think. And this and that - we've heard it all before.

I have lyme brain...can't remember if you've said what all you've been tested for... afraid to go back in this thread.

Donna and Susan....love the artwork. I've never done any painting...I dont think I'm too creative with drawing and things like that. I'm really creative with scrapbooking though.

I wish I could post some of my scrapbook pages. Eventually I'm gonna need a 12x12 scanner for sure. Gotta get myself detoxed first....all the fun stuff is on the back burner.

Yes, hurry up and detox so we can see your scrapbooking stuff!

I'm gonna repost this lecture by Dr. Klinghardt which is probably my favorite and I learned alot from it.

Well that's it then...the mercury has gone to my head. I hope that's what's causing the insomnia and that it will go away when I detox. My hands and feet are pretty much cold all the time, but I can be sweating elsewhere.

I swear I've had leftovers' mold affect me after just ONE hour - was having sort of "late seconds" I suppose more than true leftovers.

I'm fine w/ stuff I put in the freezer before it's cooled down much tho.

I wouldn't doubt that at all! I have to make my lunches for the week ahead of time...there isn't any way I could cook in the morning before work, so I make all my lunches for the week on Sunday, but I put them individually in the freezer right away. I usually make ground beef or turkey with broccoli....so I use the frozen broccoli in the container first then put the meat directly from the hot pan on top of that then put a lid on and then directly into the freezer. So far that's worked pretty well for me.

yesturday I was walking done the street and this guy passed by with a corona t- shirt on but there was just a small corona logo the t-shirts main thing was a take off of those milk ads and In big bold letters it said "GOT LIME?" I thought of all of us and started laughing people probably thought I was loony bins

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Thanks for that info Rachel...that answered my casein question...I think.

YOU GUYS ARE SCARED OF MY CRAZY FAUVE PAINTING AREN"T YOU!!!! (the photo didn't translate so well as I had to downsize it so much - - kinda blurry and freakish looking as avatar, come to think of it! )

NO, I LOVE the fauve painting!!! This is what I have in my head, but can't get it onto paper or canvas...I could never get past the *trying to make it look real* thing...but wasn't good enough to make it look realistic, so got very frustrated.

Personal photo is very nice as well.

You're talking to someone who couldn't draw a thing if her life depended on it.

I used to draw all the time when I was very young...then took it up again as an adult. I do okay, but not great. Painting is easier for me, but I could never losen up the way I wanted to...it started to get stressful not being able to do what I wanted with it.

The one thing I LOVE to paint is skies...if I never painted anything else I would be happy. I love doing skies and clouds. In fact, I had a closet full of nothing but sky paintings. They relax me. Alas, the chemicals in the paints started to get to me.