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At least you don't have C-Diff. That's supposed to be the worst one, am I right?

Yep, I think that's the worst one. The colitis thing is one of the reasons why I wanted to try the SC diet...my mother also has divertulosis and I have many of the same symptoms as she does (or she me...I'm trying to get her to go get tested for celiac, lol).

Or maybe increase the amount of fruit you are eating a bit.

What tests are you taking exactly? May I ask what kind of pain you're in? My body has not been my own for about a month and a half straight now. That has not happened in a LONG LONG time. I don't know what triggered it, but it's horrible.

I've been having D since January...I always have it to a certain extent but it changed around January when I had surgery...I have pain in the area that I assume is the intestines...kind of right below the belly button but a little to the left side. I've also had some feeling of nausea and light headedness, and blood pressure is lower than normal. And, in the last week or so it's almost C. So, my new doctor decided to run a bunch of tests...we did a whole bunch of blood tests and she is having me do a bunch of stool test to check for C.Diff (which came back negative), blood, parasites, etc. She mentioned she thinks I may have some form of colitis so I have a colonoscopy scheduled, but they'll need all these tests. Right now I'm doing the one that checks for occult blood, so they want a high residue low meat diet. I also had to do a "fresh" test...kind of like the Enterolab bucket only much smaller, lol.

I have another question. Is it true that if you eat the same things over and over, you create intolerances to those things? I'm just wondering because it seems like that's what I'm going to have to do for a while still.

I asked my allergist about this once...I think it was his feeling that it could...he had me try a rotation diet just to kind of check for that kind of thing. I've also read that it can't really. I do believe that if our intestines are doing their job properly it's less likely to happen. On the other hand...I do notice that with things like specific vitamins (i.e., a certain brand of multivitamin)...I can take them for months then if I stop for a while and try to take them again, I have digestive/intestinal issues. So, I don't know...both theories make sense to me.

Dani - I'm with you...I've been having a lot of pain this week too. I can't wait to get these dang tests done...I guess I could do the diet with chicken and carrots...but I'm not supposed to eat any red meats, pork etc until these tests are over. I'm going to do it without the yogurt for a while too I think.

Wow, I thought it was bad that I had to wait until March 20 to see mine (made the appointment about two weeks ago)! I have to wait until April 3 for my colonoscopy! I can't even imagine that many months booked ahead.

I'm getting excited too...I'm not planning to start until the weekend though...I'm trying to get through a stool test right now, which is already pretty limited...I just haven't wanted to think how I can restrict for that and this diet too, so I'm waiting for no other reason that my mental happiness, lol. I also need carrots and hamburger, lol.

Do I have to make my own yoghurt? Can I just buy Dannons plain natural yoghurt? I am not sure if I can have milk products but I'm wondering if the lack of the different bacteria is what is causing me so much trouble. I am a full time college student I don't have time to make yoghurt help!

No I don't think the store kind is okay, but I haven't actually started the diet yet, just bought the book a couple of days ago. Elaine's reasoning is that the store bought kind hasn't been fermented long enough. According to her it needs to ferment for at least 24 hours to make sure all the lactose is digested by the bacterial culture so that your intestine's cells don't have to.

Actually this is not in the book...Nancy kind of made this up...here's a link to the instructions:

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Coconut milk doesn't have casein...but you would need to look for one that doesn't have added ingredients, especially no sugar.

ETA: You could try some cooked fruit...don't ask me how, lol. I am no cook! Or in the book she mentions mashed banana (needs to be ripe with lots of little brown spots).

Yep, breakfast is my problem too. I can eat eggs, but I just don't like them much, so I'm going to try to make the coconut milk yogurt. Salton makes an inexpensive yogurt maker and it sounds easy enough to to. The hardest thing is the yogurt starter, but there is supposedly a dairy-free yogurt starter online. I'm also going to look at Whole Foods to see if they might carry one.

I am curious... what are the ingredients in the liquid Splenda? I know sucralose is illegal, so is it just saccharin or someting???

In the US it's Sucralose and maybe citric acid...I can't find liquid Splenda (there is such a thing in Canada I believe), but here in the US DaVinci Sugar Free Syrups are about the closest thing....some of the flavors do have carmel coloring which I haven't checked out...I haven't been using it though since going gluten-free.

And, here is a link to her website with lots of info:

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okay everyone, I'm going to get this book and begin this diet myself. I'm exhausted of trying to figure things out on my own and find doctors who can really help me. So what is the name and author? I'm going to run to Borders on my lunch break.

Wait, is it called, 'Breaking the vicious cycle' by Elaine Gottschall?

Thanks!

"Breaking the Vicious Cycle: Intestinal HEalth Through Diet" by Elaine Gottschall

I still believe it's going to get better. I asked a question about new intolerances from some of the long time celiac people and most of the answers say it does get better eventually...new problem foods get less and less and that makes sense to me.

It sounds to me like she is at least willing to consider the possibility, which I think is a good start! She sounds like she at least knows some basics like it runs in families/is genetic! One question you might ask is how many samples they'll take during the biopsy...I think the general consensus is that it should be more than just a couple.

You are correct with your statement about Casein...it is an intolerance and should be avoided. The casein is a protein in dairy (including goat milk, although the protein is slightly different), which, in your (and in my) case is causing a reaction in your system. Lactose is the sugar in dairy and some people are able to have it again.

I can't comment on your second question, although I'll be cutting rice out in the next few days...I'm just waiting to get through some lab tests and once those are done, I'm taking all grains out. I have read of people on this board who are intolerant to rice (or at least it gives them problems). I don't know if I'm intolerant to rice, but something is still causing me problems, so I'm going to try the SC diet to see if I can calm things down enough to figure it all out.

Thanks Carole! I think I've decided to try the Salton first...besides being cheap and small I can get it locally at several stores! I'm excited to try the coconut yogurt...I miss my yogurt sooooo much!

Thanks Nancy and Rachel!

Okay, I've read so many threads I can't remember what I read where, lol. What kind of yogurt maker do you all have? I'm thinking of getting the little cheapie Salton this weekend...several stores in my area are likely to have it. I'm thinking I should start with that before I invest in a nicer one (Yogourmet I think, lol), to make sure this is something I'll actually DO. I also live alone, so wouldn't really need the bigger machine (I think, lol).

Casein is a protein that is in all dairy products, including goat milk, although there is some thinking that the protein in goat milk is different enough so as not to cause problems...right now I'm avoiding it all. Here is a list that I carry with me of ingredients to avoid [note: I had this combined with an ingredient list for gluten-free stuff so some of this may have been from that, but if your son is avoiding gluten, it would still be something to look for]:

ammonium caseinate

artificial butter flavor

butter

butter fat

butter oil

butter solids/fat

buttermilk

calcium caseinate

casein

caseinate

cheese

condensed milk

cottage cheese

cream

cream curds

custard

delactosed whey

demineralized whey

dry milk

dry milk solids

evaporated milk

flavoring (this may contain milk (or wheat) products, so make sure it is dairy free)

ghee

goat's milk

half-and-half

hydrolysates

hydrolyzed casein

hydrolyzed milk protein

iron caseinate

lactalbumin

lactalbumin phosphate

lactate

lactic acid

lactoferrin

lactoglobulin

lactose

lactulose

low-fat milk

magnesium caseinate

malted milk

margarine (this may contain milk products so make sure it is dairy free)

milk

milk derivative

milk fat

milk powder

milk protein

milk solids

natural flavoring

nonfat milk

nougat

opta

potassium caseinate

powdered milk

protein (this ingredient could be milk protein so check to be sure)

rennet casein

Simplesse

skimmed milk

sodium caseinate

sour cream

sour cream solids

sour milk solids

whey

whey powder

whey protein concentrate

whey protein hydrolysate

whole milk

yogurt

zinc caseinate

Following along with the good bacteria idea...I haven't finished reading the book yet, so maybe this is addressed somewhere, but why isn't just taking a probiotic okay? I'm going to try the coconut yogurt just because I miss having yogurt in the mornings (I can't seem to stomach anything in the mornings these days except my Bumble bars with nut butter, but that CAN'T be good for my digestion, lol).

I can't afford the book but I think this diet would really help me. I am in so much pain all the time. What can I eat during the intro and then what about after? I went to some of the website but I wasn't getting a clear answer, any help I could get would be really great. Thank you so much! Oh I noticed it said eat dairy, but I think i have problem with dairy but I don't know for sure, any ideas or will this diet help?

I'm going to start this soon myself. I've seen a lot of improvement since going gluten and casein free, but have still had problems with my digestion/intestines. I've had a slew of tests run, but they've all come back negative so far (except for the one for blood in my stool). My doctor has scheduled me for a colonoscopy because she thinks I may have an inflamed colon (not sure what exactly she called it), so I think this diet would really help. I did buy the book yesterday (at my local Barnes & Noble for $20.65), I haven't actually read the diet part yet though. Maybe your local library would have the book??

I've brought the book to work with me today, so if it's slow I should be able to get to the intro part...I'll post back anything I can find if someone doesn't post before then.

Wow, that's wonderful Lollie!!!

I haven't tried it with almond milk. But I just bought almond and intend to try it. That link I posted gave my method for making non-dairy yogurt and there are instructions on how to make nut milks too.

Thanks Nancy, I just went and looked at the link...I used to post on that board too!

Carole, I'm interested in your coconut yogurt...does it taste good, lol? Also, has anyone tried with alternative milks like almond milk?

I've been thinking of trying this for some time now, but just haven't done it. I've printed off a bunch of stuff from the website, but think I will look for the book. Rachel, like you I was on the anti-candida, anti-yeast diet for several months so I'll look forward to see what you think of this one.