Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Help Needed, Testing Question


janmar63

Recommended Posts

janmar63 Newbie

I have been suffering for 7 months with a severe itching/rash issue. I saw my dermatologist beginning 6 months ago. She has not been able to figure out what my issue is. 2 months ago, I began to attempt an elimination diet based on a book I picked up. I noticed improvement after 2 weeks or so. Basically, by playing with my diet, I have come to the conclusion that I am allergic to flour or perhaps celiac. If I don't eat it, I am fine. If I eat flour, within 4 hours, I begin to itch all over my body. I went to see my family doctor today to request that he order the testing for celiac for me. He told me I have to be eating wheat for at least a few straight days for the test to have proper results. I left there determined to get myself back on a diet including wheat. I had bread with dinner and now I can not sleep from all the itching. How can I possibly eat it for several days? I am already miserable!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Deaminated Marcus Apprentice

Welcome janmar63,   

 

Go chat with the ladies in the  Dermatitis Herpetiformis section.

 

They are very knowledgeable. 

 

https://www.celiac.com/forums/forum/26-dermatitis-herpetiformis/

 

 

................................................................................................................

 

Added:

 

The quick on and off skin response sounds like a wheat allergy.

 

You might want to be refered to an allergist to be tested to see if you have a wheat allergy

as this would be easier to confirm or eliminate than Dermatitis Herpetiformis testing. 

nvsmom Community Regular

For blood testing, you need to be consuming 1-4 gluten servings (ie. slices of bread) daily for 4-12 weeks, 2 slices of bread / day for 6 or more weeks seems pretty common. If you are already eating bread pretty steadily, you don't need to add on more time, but if you eat "gluten light" or have gone without gluten for a length of time, you should probably do this gluten challenge for a while.

 

If you have dh at the moment, you might want to see if you can get a skin biopsy (taken from beside the rash I believe). if you get a positive biopsy, it could save you some time and some discomfort if you have to keep eating it.

 

I agree with Marcus that a wheat allergy could be a factor too.

 

I hope you figure it out soon.  Best wishes.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Kit Kellison commented on Jefferson Adams's article in Gluten-Free Foods & Beverages
      6

      Oreo Debuts New Gluten-Free Mint Oreo Cookies

    2. - trents commented on Amiah's blog entry in Amiah
      1

      Help!!

    3. 1
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,621
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    vikkigoe
    Newest Member
    vikkigoe
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Hector, have you had a follow-up biopsy to check the progress of small bowel villous lining recovery after going gluten free?
    • knitty kitty
      @HectorConvector, Please try adding Niacin to your supplements.  Low Niacin has a connection with suicidal ideation.  Been here, done that.  Niacin made me feel better mentally and physically.  Omega Three fats will help, too. For pain, Thiamine, B12 and, Pyridoxine B6 have been shown to have analgesic effects when taken together.  I know this works because I've cracked some vertebrae and this combination relieves the pain.  I was prescribed opioids, but couldn't function or poop, so... I can highly recommend these vitamins for pain relief.   I adopted a paleo diet, the Autoimmune Protocol Diet which has been shown to improve intestinal health.  Improving intestinal health improves mental health because of the gut brain-axis.  Important neurotransmitter Serotonin is made in the digestive system.   Please Read... Association between dietary niacin intake and suicidal ideation: mediating role of C-reactive protein https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40859220/ Mechanisms of action of vitamin B1 (thiamine), B6 (pyridoxine), and B12 (cobalamin) in pain: a narrative review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35156556/
    • Scott Adams
      Hi Florence, thank you for clarifying — and no worries at all about late-night writing. I appreciate you explaining that you’re specifically asking about gluten cross-reactivity, particularly the proposed immune cross-reaction between alpha-gliadin and certain non-gluten foods on a gluten-free diet. It’s an interesting and often confusing topic. The Vojdani & Tarash paper you mentioned did report antibody cross-reactivity in laboratory settings, which has led to a lot of discussion in the gluten-free community. However, it’s important to note that in-vitro antibody reactions (in a lab dish) don’t always translate into clinically meaningful reactions inside the human body. At this point, major celiac research centers generally conclude that true immune cross-reactivity to non-gluten foods in people with celiac disease hasn’t been clearly demonstrated in well-controlled human studies. That said, many individuals do report symptoms with foods like corn, dairy, oats, or others, and those reactions can absolutely be real — they just may involve different mechanisms, such as food intolerance, FODMAP sensitivity, separate immune responses, or individual gut permeability differences rather than molecular mimicry of gliadin specifically. If certain foods consistently trigger symptoms for you, keeping a structured food and symptom log and discussing it with a knowledgeable gastroenterologist or dietitian may help clarify patterns. It’s a nuanced area, and your question is thoughtful — we just have to separate what’s biologically plausible in theory from what’s been conclusively demonstrated in patients.
    • Scott Adams
      I’m really sorry you’re dealing with such intense burning pain right now. When symptoms get that overwhelming, it can feel unbearable and even trigger really dark thoughts, and that’s a sign of just how much you’ve been carrying — not a sign of weakness. It makes sense that you’d want to go back to a lower-carb, meat-and-vegetable approach if that’s helped reduce symptoms before; sometimes dialing things back to simple, whole foods can calm inflammation or gut irritation. At the same time, your safety and mental health matter just as much as the physical symptoms. If the suicidal thoughts are feeling strong or hard to control, please consider reaching out for immediate support — in the U.S., you can call or text 988 for the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, or go to the nearest emergency room if you feel at risk. You don’t have to handle this alone. It may also be worth checking in with your doctor soon to review what’s changed and see if there are adjustments or treatments that could ease the burning pain more effectively. You deserve relief, and you deserve support while you figure this out.
    • Scott Adams
      By the way, a few years back Nestle launched gluten-free DiGiorno pizza which also used Codex quality wheat starch, but due to backlash from the celiac community quickly reformulated and it is now wheat-free. Personally I think it's not a good direction to go, considering the many alternatives available now.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.