Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Do I Really Need To Go gluten-free?


im1dermike

Recommended Posts

im1dermike Newbie

Starting probably 3-5 years ago, every time I'd drink a single beer, I would get tired, feel "run down", and, it sounds strange, but it was almost like I could feel my stomach pulse.  These were the only symptoms I had so, when trying to self diagnose, I ignored Celiac's disease because I never noticed an issue when consuming anything else.

 

Fast forward to a few weeks ago. I had been abnormally tired for over a week so I went to the doctor.  He took blood and said I test positive for a number of tests in the Celiac screening.  FWIW, the results were as follows:

  • DEAMIDATED GLIADIN ABS, IGA - 18 (Negative)
  • DEAMIDATED GLIADIN ABS, IGG - 11 (Negative)
  • T-TRANSGLUTAMINASE (TTG) IGA - 6 (Weak positive)
  • T-TRANSGLUTAMINASE (TTG) IGG - 25 (Positive)
  • IMMUNOGLOBULIN A, QN, SERUM - 120 (Negative)

So my doctor (a general physician) said I should go on a gluten-free diet for a month and see how I react.  I've been on this diet for a week and, while I can do the month, I'm just not sure if this is the correct course of action. 

 

While I have no doubt I could stick to a gluten-free diet, there's no arguing it takes a lot of effort, is inconvenient, expensive, etc.  I don't want to end up not having any issues of feeling "run down" this month of a gluten-free diet, conclude that I must stay gluten-free, and have the real issue be that beer is simply the only thing I can't tolerate.

 

Hoping to get some feedback on my situation.  Thanks in advance.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



kareng Grand Master

Here is some info for you and the doctor about the proper way to diagnose celiac disease. You need to continue to eat gluten until you have had all the tests.

Open Original Shared Link

SMRI Collaborator

I would agree--before you go gluten-free, schedule an endoscope to verify--and get the gene testing done.  With mixed lab results like that, the scope will help confirm your diagnosis either way.

im1dermike Newbie

Thanks for the reply, kareng and SMRI.  This is why general physicans frustrate me...

 

I'm assuming a gastroenterologist is the specialist who would conduct the endoscopic biopsy and gene test?

kareng Grand Master

Thanks for the reply, kareng and SMRI.  This is why general physicans frustrate me...

 

I'm assuming a gastroenterologist is the specialist who would conduct the endoscopic biopsy and gene test?

Any doc could order a Celiac gene test but you would want a GI for the endo. They may want to do the other end, too ( colonoscopy) at the same time. Checking for other issues. Make sure your GI will do at least 6 biopsies. With your low numbers, you may be catching The Celiac at the beginning stages and not have a lot of damage.

Another option might be to continue to eat gluten and re- blood test in 6 months. The numbers should go up.

nvsmom Community Regular

Beer was always one of the worst for me - stomachaches and bloating which I attributed to the carbonation.   :rolleyes:   Fatigue is a pretty common celiac disease symptom.  What are your other symptoms?  There are many, Open Original Shared Link, and so many of them are not related to the gut.  I was pleasantly surprised when my plantar fasciitis went away along with migraines, hair loss, runny nose, and fatigue improved. I ask because you sound a bit disbelieving that it celiac disease could cause just your few symptoms.  ....Some people have no symptoms and others only a few, although it seems the longer the disease is ignored, the more obvious symptoms become.

 

Your Immunoglobulin A (IgA) says negative at 120.  That is a control test that is run when looking for celiac disease because 1 in every 20 celiacs is deficient in IgA and that will usually cause false negatives in any IgA based tests (DGP IgA and tTG IgA). Do you know the range of the IgA test?  I was wondering if negative means you are in the normal range or below it - I'm guessing you are in range but that is something to check as it could cause low tTG IgA and negative DGP IgA numbers.

 

The tTG tests are pretty good tests.  The ttG IgA is thought to have a specificity of 91-99% (I often see 95% cited)  which means that out of 100 positive tests, 1 to 9 (with an average of 5) will be caused by something other than celiac disease.  See this report for more info: Open Original Shared Link  A weak positive tTG IgA can be caused by diabetes, chronic liver disease, thyroiditis, crohn's, colitis, and a serious infection, but 95% of the time it's caused by celiac disease.  The tTG IgG also has a specificity of 95% as seen here: Open Original Shared Link  You have a positive tTG IgG, and I'm guessing that it is about 5 times above the normal limit (of 4?).  If that is true, it's most likely celiac disease.  False positives usually only occur with a weak positive, and not in the overwhelmingly positive.  KWIM?  :(

 

Do you know the ranges of the DGP tests?  I am guessing that the upper range is 20 and that your DGP IgA is close to being positive.  As kareng said, if you continue to eat gluten your numbers will probably go up, but that also means that you have damaged your body more - something to keep in mind.

 

If you do go in for the endoscopic biopsy, keep in mind that it can miss up to 1 in 5 celiacs so even if you have the test done, there is a chance of a false negative.  Get as many samples done as possible (6+) to try to avoid that.  You'll need to be eating gluten in the 2-4 weeks prior to the procedure for optimal accuracy.

 

If you can't have the biospy, or it ends up negative, try the diet for 6 months and see how you do.  One month really isn't long enough for recovery to begin in most people, and some even feel worse in the first few weeks.  You really need a few months gluten-free to evaluate you health long term.

 

Good luck!  Testing is one of the most frustrating parts of this disease. Hang in there.

SMRI Collaborator

Thanks for the reply, kareng and SMRI.  This is why general physicans frustrate me...

 

I'm assuming a gastroenterologist is the specialist who would conduct the endoscopic biopsy and gene test?

 

You have to look at your general physician for what his/her role is in your care.  They are there for your basic care, physicals, minor injuries/illnesses, initial testing, etc. but then they are to refer you on if you need a specialist.  They are there to coordinate your care, but not to treat everything.  My daughter has a team of 5 or so doctors outside of her primary.  She sees her specialists as needed but her primary is the one that is the center of the wheel keeping tabs on everything.  While she knows a lot about various conditions, she isn't an expert on everything.  Once you are diagnosed with Celiac or whatever, your next step should be to see a specialist.  They deal with the ins and outs of the disease and should be on top of the latest information of how to treat the disease.  Think of it this way, you could go to a dermatologist to deliver your baby, she's a doctor, probably had an OB rotation, technically could do the delivery, but why would you?  A GI is good, but you want a GI that specializes in Celiacs.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



im1dermike Newbie

Thanks for all the helpful replies and information.  I've scheduled an appointment with a gastroenterologist to discuss the situation.  My wife is 36 weks pregnant so hopefully I'm able to proceed with all the tests, etc. without any issue. :)

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Haugeabs replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      23

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - trents replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      7

      FDA looking for input on Celiac Gluten sensitivity labeling PLEASE READ and submit your suggestions

    3. - Wheatwacked replied to Heatherisle's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      34

      Blood results

    4. - Known1 replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      7

      FDA looking for input on Celiac Gluten sensitivity labeling PLEASE READ and submit your suggestions

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,413
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    EBeloved
    Newest Member
    EBeloved
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Haugeabs
      For my Vit D3 deficiency it was recommended to take with Vit K2 (MK7) with the Vit D. The Vit K2 helps absorption of Vit D3. Fat also helps with absorption. I take Micro Ingredients Vit D3 5000 IU with Vit K2 100 micrograms (as menaquinone:MK-7). Comes in soft gels with coconut oil.  Gluten free but not certified gluten free. Soy free, GMO free.   
    • trents
      @Known1, I submitted the following comment along with my contact information: "I have noticed that many food companies voluntarily include information in their ingredient/allergen label section when the product is made in an environment where cross contamination with any of the nine major allergens recognized by the FDA may also be likely. Even though celiac disease and gluten sensitivity are, technically speaking, not allergic responses, it would seem, nonetheless, appropriate to include "gluten" in that list for the present purpose. That would insure that food companies would be consistent with including this information in labeling. Best estimates are that 1% of the general population, many undiagnosed of course, have celiac disease and more than that are gluten sensitive."
    • Wheatwacked
    • Wheatwacked
      Celiac Disease causes more vitamin D deficiency than the general population because of limited UV sunlight in the winter and the little available from food is not absorbed well in the damaged small intestine.  Taking 10,000 IU a day (250 mcg) a day broke my depression. Taking it for eleven years.  Doctor recently said to not stop.  My 25(OH)D is around 200 nmol/L (80 ng/ml) but it took about six years to get there.  Increasing vitamin D also increases absorption of Calcium. A good start is 100-gram (3.5-ounce) serving of salmon,  vitamin D from 7.5 to 25 mcg (300 to 1,000 IU) but it is going to take additional vitamin D supplement to be effective.  More importantly salmon has an omega-6 to omega-3 ratio 1:10 anti-inflammatory compared to the 15:1 infammatory ratio of the typical Western diet. Vitamin D and Depression: Where is all the Sunshine?
    • Known1
      Thank you for sharing your thoughts.  I respectfully disagree.  You cherry picked a small section from the page.  I will do the same below: The agency is seeking information on adverse reactions due to “ingredients of interest” (i.e., non-wheat gluten containing grains (GCGs) which are rye and barley, and oats due to cross-contact with GCGs) and on labeling issues or concerns with identifying these “ingredients of interest” on packaged food products in the U.S. “People with celiac disease or gluten sensitives have had to tiptoe around food, and are often forced to guess about their food options,” said FDA Commissioner Marty Makary, M.D., M.P.H. “We encourage all stakeholders to share their experiences and data to help us develop policies that will better protect Americans and support healthy food choices.” --- end quote Anyone with celiac disease is clearly a stakeholder.  The FDA is encouraging us to share our experiences along with any data to help develop future "policies that will better protect Americans and support healthy food choices".  I see this as our chance to speak up or forever hold our peace.  Like those that do not participate in elections, they are not allowed to complain.  The way I see it, if we do not participate in this request for public comment/feedback, then we should also not complain when we get ill from something labeled gluten-free. Have a blessed day ahead, Known1
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.