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Is Celiac The Same As Candidiasis?


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I think i have candidiasis but at the same time, i think this is celiac disease. I have been to a lot of doctors and they all say i am fine but i know im not okay. There are times when i eat bread, i get stomach ache and then i get itchy. I went to an allergologist and he said it can be an allergy. But i am doubting his diagnosis since i also have other symptoms like body tingling, frequent urination and i even have a cyst on my right ovary. I don't want to go to doctors anymore since they are just wasting my money. So i'm doing research on my own and i found this forum. I hope i can find some answers here and i also want to help out to those who have this illness.


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kareng Grand Master

No they are not the same thing.

nvsmom Community Regular

You might want to check the dh boards on this forum. celiac disease can manifest as a horribly itchy rash. Perhaps they can help.

GottaSki Mentor

Some of the symptoms are similar...if you suspect....get tested and that does involve a doctor.  You want a full celiac antibody test:

 

Total Serum IgA

tTG - both IgA and IgG

EMA - IgA

DGP - both IgA and IgG

 

Good Luck to you :)

pricklypear1971 Community Regular

Actually, in the US (I assume other countries, too) you can order labs directly from a lab, online. Google it for a lab company near you. LabCorp is available from online labs. No doctor required.

GottaSki Mentor

Actually, in the US (I assume other countries, too) you can order labs directly from a lab, online. Google it for a lab company near you. LabCorp is available from online labs. No doctor required.

 

True...should have said "that generally involves a doctor" -- if using medical insurance.  You can indeed order them directly from the lab -- we have done this to obtain follow up blood work on my sons.

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