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Butter?

w8in4dave

By w8in4dave
in Food Intolerance & Leaky Gut

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w8in4dave Community Regular
w8in4dave
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Restaurant potatoes might not be safe!  They sometimes coat them with butter or margarine when baking them and that butter or margarine could have had knives dipped into it or cut into it to spread on toast or something, thereby cross contaminating them.  One restaurant even says that their margarine is not gluten free.  Or if they serve the potato to you cut into, they could have used a cross contaminated knife.

It did seem to be coated in butter!! Yea I think your right!! It also seemed to have some flavor on the skin .. So I am thinking it was cross contaminated or soaked in something to give it a really great flavor!! :) Next time I will just eat the steak and salad ...They have great steaks there! :) 

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I seem to be able to have very small amounts of butter without much trouble, but more than a teaspoon and I'm done for. Same with cheese.

Milk, yogurt, soft cheese, etc = no way.

Problems with dairy can sneak up on you out of the blue. Could be that you're developing an intolerance now. A dairy challenge to see what's ok and what's not might be a good idea.

 

As for butter substitute, margarine is no better. I use Earth Balance, which is a vegan butter substitute. It's kind of like margarine but not hydrogynated in the same way, and made from vegetable proteins. Personally I think it tastes a lot better than any margarine I've had, and even melt it for popcorn and everything (it's also the only butter-substitute I can get soy-free). If you find butter is off the menu, I'd recommend it.

 

Good luck!

w8in4dave Community Regular
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I just had a thought!! I don't think it is butter that bothered me. I think I may have been glutened. I say this because Hubbs and I went out for our Anniversary and we went somewhere with seafood. I Had all you can eat Crab legs and they bring out a tub of butter!! Ohh yea !! I ate tons of butter!! I did not have a reaction. That was b4 the potato incident. Days b4 the potato incident.  I think the potato was cross contaminated from the other restaurant. That is the only thing "now" I can think of. Because my Daughter cooked with butter and I had no prob. I went and ate sea food and no problem (lots of butter) so The potato must of been cross contaminated .....Well then!! 

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I just had a thought!! I don't think it is butter that bothered me. I think I may have been glutened. I say this because Hubbs and I went out for our Anniversary and we went somewhere with seafood. I Had all you can eat Crab legs and they bring out a tub of butter!! Ohh yea !! I ate tons of butter!! I did not have a reaction. That was b4 the potato incident. Days b4 the potato incident.  I think the potato was cross contaminated from the other restaurant. That is the only thing "now" I can think of. Because my Daughter cooked with butter and I had no prob. I went and ate sea food and no problem (lots of butter) so The potato must of been cross contaminated .....Well then!! 

that probably was it then :)

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Hmm, best way to find out is to have butter in a controlled home environment and see how you do (any excuse to eat a spoonful of butter is not a bad thing). If you're ok, and you've never had problems other than that potato, then you were probably CCd. Which sucks, but better than giving up butter.

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It did seem to be coated in butter!! Yea I think your right!! It also seemed to have some flavor on the skin .. So I am thinking it was cross contaminated or soaked in something to give it a really great flavor!! :) Next time I will just eat the steak and salad ...They have great steaks there! :)

Keep in mind if butter is an issue...  Steaks often have butter on them.

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I just had a thought!! I don't think it is butter that bothered me. I think I may have been glutened. I say this because Hubbs and I went out for our Anniversary and we went somewhere with seafood. I Had all you can eat Crab legs and they bring out a tub of butter!! Ohh yea !! I ate tons of butter!! I did not have a reaction. That was b4 the potato incident. Days b4 the potato incident.  I think the potato was cross contaminated from the other restaurant. That is the only thing "now" I can think of. Because my Daughter cooked with butter and I had no prob. I went and ate sea food and no problem (lots of butter) so The potato must of been cross contaminated .....Well then!! 

Could be.  Don't know if it still holds true but somewhere on here in the past, someone posted that the margarine at Outback is not safe because it contains gluten.  And they coat the potatoes with that.

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w8in4dave Community Regular
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Seems they are always sneaking something in somewhere huh? I will probably get to a point I will eat a salad with no dressing no cheese, no croutons lol... I'll just take a plain bowl of lettuce please TY :) lol 

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Could be.  Don't know if it still holds true but somewhere on here in the past, someone posted that the margarine at Outback is not safe because it contains gluten.  And they coat the potatoes with that.

Outback do not use margarine. They use real butter, and there is no gluten in it.

The seasoning they use on their vegetables contains both gluten and butter.

w8in4dave Community Regular
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Hence the reason I am getting afraid to eat veggies at restaurants ....

kareng Grand Master
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Hence the reason I am getting afraid to eat veggies at restaurants ....

But Outback tells you that - on the gluten-free menu. If you order from the gluten-free menu, they won't put the gluten on your veggies. Yes.....there is always a risk someone will screw up but Outback is one of the safest places for gluten-free.

w8in4dave Community Regular
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I haven't eaten in Outback in years!! Well since they took out their Queensland Salad off the menu !! Ughhh yea it ticked me off!! I LOVED that salad!

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What's Outback?  And what's a Queensland Salad?

psawyer Proficient
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What's Outback?  And what's a Queensland Salad?

Open Original Shared Link is a restaurant chain primarily in the USA. It was one of the first to explicitly cater to people needing a gluten-free diet. I'm not familiar with the Queensland Salad and as w8in4dave said, it is not on the current menu.
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Thanks.  I live in outback Queensland lol, thought it might have been something over here :)

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cherries Newbie
cherries
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Is there powdered soy milk?

Yes you might have to look at a health food store though.

iloathegluten Newbie
iloathegluten
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Possibly the fat content? I personally have issues with dairy fat in addition to lactose, so maybe the culprit was that? I tolerate any dairy that's low lactose, low fat with no issues at all, so I assume I'm a-okay with casein, but cream, butter, ice cream, etc. give me horrible abdominal craps to the point it does feel like I've been glutened. I always have issues with any high fat meals, but dairy fat seems to be an even worse offender than other sources of fat for whatever reason... I swear I'm dairy fat intolerant to the level people are casein intolerant.

 

Sorry to butt in. It seems like you've already figured out the problem, but I thought I'd offer one more suggestion in case you were still wondering!

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