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Meal Planning For The Newly Diagnosed- Challenge


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IrishHeart Veteran

Actually Irish, I don't even think that you would be allowed to drink water if you believed everybody. Remember the folks who claimed that water had gluten in it?  :D  :lol:  :P  

 

I'm at the stage where I will run screaming in the opposite direction if anybody tells me anything more to eliminate from my diet.  :ph34r:

 

Ruth, take out all veggies with an R in them. ! I "heard that" they are very bad for us.

 

j/k I just wanted to see if I could hear you scream all the way over here (?down here--not sure where you are exactly)  in Florida. ^_^


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BlessedMommy Rising Star

I'm in Michigan. :)

 

Part of my frustration is that I have friends who seem to think that eggs, chocolate, vinegar, and canola oil are bad for us. I'm not going to give those up at this point. Plus, there's so much conflicting information on it. Some friends claim that eggs raise your cancer risk and I've heard of a study that claims that they do the opposite.

 

Above all, I think that starvation and a limited non-varied diet is very bad for a person's health. You gotta pick your poison nowadays! ;)

IrishHeart Veteran

There are some food additives that may be harmful--long term--for everyone.

 

Whenever some tells me "Such and such food is BAD for you (eggs, beef, oysters,bacon, etc)

I  think of my grandfather who ate anything he damn well pleased and he lived to be

92. (except for a cataract, he was in decent shape). 

 

My mother does not make the same creative dishes I do. She eats VERY plainly. No gluten of course, no dairy any more --although she used to drink a giant glass of milk with dinner--except yogurt, (I know--can you imagine

no cheese? ever? just kill me now) no goodies or junk except the occassional cookie, no booze, Same stuff every week. I could walk in her house on any given Wed, and know pasta will be on the table. Saturday? going to be hot dogs and beans (what? she's a New Englander! lol)

 

And they both ate butter slathered on anything. 

 

She likes it this way. She takes no meds except a tiny amount of thyroid med...She's 87, works out at a gym 3X a week and could run circles around any of us. She'll probably outlive me. 

 

The key to their long lives even though they did not eat lots of green leafy veggies, take tons of supplements out the ying yang and other assorted

things people "say we should be doing"? Good genetics.  :) and an ability to decide for themselves what they wanted to eat. 

user001 Contributor

 

if I believed everything everyone says is "bad for a celiac", the list of foods I could eat would include:  water and lettuce.

 

I'd be pretty thin, peeing my brains out all day and grouchy. 

I've read that lettuce can be kinda harsh :lol::D:blink: LMAO

BlessedMommy Rising Star

Your mom is such an inspiration! I like how she jumped on board with being gluten-free, not worrying about what anybody thought of it.

 

Re: food additives, I agree. I don't think that anybody was supposed to consume Red #40, for example.

user001 Contributor

I'm in Michigan. :)

 

Part of my frustration is that I have friends who seem to think that eggs, chocolate, vinegar, and canola oil are bad for us. I'm not going to give those up at this point. Plus, there's so much conflicting information on it. Some friends claim that eggs raise your cancer risk and I've heard of a study that claims that they do the opposite.

 

Above all, I think that starvation and a limited non-varied diet is very bad for a person's health. You gotta pick your poison nowadays! ;)

I lived with my grandmother for 3 years and I preferred to eat eggs, but she said -that her mother said- no more than 3 eggs per week! something to do with cholesterol, but her mom was born in the 1800's and died of cancer... sooooo im pretty sure her 3 egg a week rule didn't help her. Also totally caught my grandma breaking this rule.

BlessedMommy Rising Star

I've read that lettuce can be kinda harsh :lol::D:blink: LMAO

 

ROFL!!!!  :P


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IrishHeart Veteran

Your mom is such an inspiration! I like how she jumped on board with being gluten-free, not worrying about what anybody thought of it.

 

Re: food additives, I agree. I don't think that anybody was supposed to consume Red #40, for example.

 

My mother does not care what anyone says or thinks. She does what she wants. lol

 

I know I can't have MSG, nitrates, and food dyes..(it's a histamine thing and causes some icky symptoms)

and .man, . I hate that I can't have M and Ms..... dang! 

 

ah well, probably better for me in the long run.... less weight on the hips.  :lol:

IrishHeart Veteran

I lived with my grandmother for 3 years and I preferred to eat eggs, but she said -that her mother said- no more than 3 eggs per week! something to do with cholesterol, but her mom was born in the 1800's and died of cancer... sooooo im pretty sure her 3 egg a week rule didn't help her. Also totally caught my grandma breaking this rule.

 

 

that eggs and cholesterol thing---complete reversal on that opinion by the medical types.

 

Eggs are good for you. Again, my grandpa ate eggs every day. With sausages and bacon. Toast and jam. black coffee. 

 

Read this: 

 

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We need to acknowledge that diverse healthy populations experience no risk in developing coronary heart disease by increasing their intake of cholesterol but, in contrast, they may have multiple beneficial effects by the inclusion of eggs in their regular diet.

 

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user001 Contributor

I think staying active is really important too, I think alot of people get stuck in the rut of going to work, coming home for dinner, then sitting in front of the tv till they go to bed. Ive been trying to swim as much as possible because its a really good workout (450 calories for 40 mins freestyle/leisure swimming) and my joints dont feel like I did a thing!

 

I was given this idea that there was things that bothered me that I never knew about, like suddenly I couldn't eat spicy food, even though I know my tolerance for the stuff. Or bell peppers or cabbage or any other veggies. 30 years old and I am very in touch with what foods upset me and what foods do not. This is why I insisted on being tested for Celiac, because I knew the only foods that bothered me were foods with gluten! Almost 10 years ago, I gave up beef and pork because I knew it was making me sick, same idea.

 

I guess at this point, I will just eat what I want, as long as it's not gluten, which would require a trip to the store since my house is 100% gluten free. Other people's houses are scary, they just let that stuff sit out on their counters..

user001 Contributor

YES! I know this! I would never dive into eating like a dozen eggs a week unless I knew she was wrong. LOL I told her, if you don't have high cholesterol, then it's ok to eat eggs. My cholesterol is always fine. Hers is also, without medication.

kareng Grand Master

There are foods that are harder to digest or harsh on the gut for anyone - Celiac or not. So when a newly diagnosed person, like you,  comes on and says  they are still having gut issues and they had coffee, hot peppers, dairy, broccoli, etc - we often tell them to eat easier to digest foods or cook the veggies.  Its not because these foods keep your gut from healing, its just to make you feel better until you have healed.  If you are no longer having issues with the foods you are eating - eat or drink whatever you want.

 

Its the same common sense approach everyone uses after a stomach virus - you don't stop vomiting and jump right to a taco salad with extra spicy sauce and lots of cheese.   You start with a little apple sauce or a Gatorade and a little rice and work your way up the dinner food chain.  

GottaSki Mentor

I'm in Michigan. :)

 

Part of my frustration is that I have friends who seem to think that eggs, chocolate, vinegar, and canola oil are bad for us. I'm not going to give those up at this point. Plus, there's so much conflicting information on it. Some friends claim that eggs raise your cancer risk and I've heard of a study that claims that they do the opposite.

 

 

California reporting in....

 

Here is my rule...anyone that does not have to live with either a true allergy, severe intolerance or celiac disease is not allowed to suggest what foods are good or bad...I find they are usually the first to break their own rules because their bodies do not punish them for eating "just a little".

 

and I never act on the advice of folks even with those three conditions without a bit of research and listening to my own body.

Marilyn R Community Regular

This turned up when I googled Gluten Free Menu Plan.  Open Original Shared Link

 

You'll need to make substitutions based on your food preferences.  You also might like to try a paleo cookbook.

user001 Contributor

This turned up when I googled Gluten Free Menu Plan.  Open Original Shared Link

 

You'll need to make substitutions based on your food preferences.  You also might like to try a paleo cookbook.

I saw that but I was confused because so many things said dont eat eggs, dont eat beans, dont eat cheese! Now that i know I can eat whatever doesnt bother me, this is actually a really good meal plan.

BlessedMommy Rising Star

California reporting in....

 

Here is my rule...anyone that does not have to live with either a true allergy, severe intolerance or celiac disease is not allowed to suggest what foods are good or bad...I find they are usually the first to break their own rules because their bodies do not punish them for eating "just a little".

 

and I never act on the advice of folks even with those three conditions without a bit of research and listening to my own body.

Around my circle of friends, being "vegan" is really popular. (not really true vegan for most of them, but more like a plant based meal plan with the addition of honey and occasional cheats on milk or eggs when it's inconvenient to avoid them.)

 

I end up getting subtle peer pressure at times for being a self professed egg lover. LOL! If I want to make a vegan baked good recipe and it calls for flaxseed, I'll normally take the flaxseed out and substitute with eggs.

user001 Contributor

Around my circle of friends, being "vegan" is really popular. (not really true vegan for most of them, but more like a plant based meal plan with the addition of honey and occasional cheats on milk or eggs when it's inconvenient to avoid them.)

 

I end up getting subtle peer pressure at times for being a self professed egg lover. LOL! If I want to make a vegan baked good recipe and it calls for flaxseed, I'll normally take the flaxseed out and substitute with eggs.

I think this is why so many people with celiac get upset with the gluten free diet trend! Because 'a little when its inconvenient' will make us very sick, whereas a little honey or egg for someone who is voluntarily vegan will be just fine. All these diet trends has just made people lose respect for the fact that some people get truly sick from certain foods.

Georgia-guy Enthusiast

I think this is why so many people with celiac get upset with the gluten free diet trend! Because 'a little when its inconvenient' will make us very sick, whereas a little honey or egg for someone who is voluntarily vegan will be just fine. All these diet trends has just made people lose respect for the fact that some people get truly sick from certain foods.

Exactly! And then when we make a fuss to make sure it's not contaminated, we get the dirty looks!

BlessedMommy Rising Star

^Yep!

 

And that's why the further I get into the gluten-free diet, the less I want anybody to cook for me.  :ph34r:

SMRI Collaborator

I don't like eggs so that solves the good/bad for you debate here :D  I haven't eaten out much since I was diagnosed but I will be on the road doing more testing all next week.  I did rent a hotel room with a kitchenette so I can cook for us mostly.  I have to see if there is a Red Robin near there.  My daughter loves it there and it sounds like a good place to test the waters for gluten-free dining out!

user001 Contributor

Its so terrible because a couple weeks ago for my birthday, I had friends over my one friend insisted on making some awesome dip. So without being pushy, I gave her info on how to make sure the food isn't contaminated. Before she arrived, I was so worried because I didn't want to eat it and get sick, but I didn't want to rude. Well it turns out it was a chilli dip and it had beef in it and im like OH DARN, YOU FORGOT I DON'T EAT BEEF. Everyone else enjoyed the dip and Im sure it was very tasty but Im glad she forgot that i don't eat beef, I dodged a bullet there!

 

I always was the type to bake for people so they are always talking about how they are going to 'try out' gluten free baking for me sometime, Im just dreading it. So sad. I know they mean well, but I don't want to be a guinea pig for their gluten free baking in their contaminated pans with their contaminated mixers and spoons and such. Such a scary thought really. Bring me a bag of GLUTINO chocolate sandwich cookies and we'll call it even!

BlessedMommy Rising Star

Take it from me, just start out with an across the board rule that people can't bake for you and can't cook for you (except for in unusual circumstances like if you have a friend who really goes out of their way to understand celiac).

 

It's easier than being lax at first and then trying to switch later to being more strict.

user001 Contributor

Take it from me, just start out with an across the board rule that people can't bake for you and can't cook for you (except for in unusual circumstances like if you have a friend who really goes out of their way to understand celiac).

 

It's easier than being lax at first and then trying to switch later to being more strict.

Now that I have been contaminated by people cooking for me, the one time this happened I was there watching them cook and I STILL got contaminated. It's so very real! I have just started saying, just buy me some nice certified gluten free bread or cookies! There are brands that I love and they are kind of pricey for me, so I would SOOO appreciate that.

Marilyn R Community Regular

I saw that but I was confused because so many things said dont eat eggs, dont eat beans, dont eat cheese! Now that i know I can eat whatever doesnt bother me, this is actually a really good meal plan.

That menu plan comes from a very reputable source.  Black beans and rice or red beans and rice has been a staple here since I went gluten-free and I never had a problem with it.  I had allergy testing and scored a 3 on a scale of 5 for being allergic to egg yolks, but eaten in moderation they don't bother me.  

 

I bought a pressure cooker so I could make my own beans and use a G Foreman grill quite often for chicken and fish.  Those are my 2 tips for the day.   :D   

Marilyn R Community Regular

P.S.  I'll make a menu plan for you if you'll come and clean my house.   :D

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