Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Positive blood test, negative biopsy - skeptical and looking for advice


AllisonMcM

Recommended Posts

AllisonMcM Rookie

Hi All,

I have been following this forum since testing positive for Celiac via one blood test a month ago (TTG IGA: 43 (normal range <15). I wanted to confirm my diagnosis via biopsy so I scheduled an endoscopy which I had last week. I just received the biopsy results and they were: no sign of Celiac but evidence of Barrett's Esophagus. I've been reading on this forum since last week how easy it is to miss Celiac via endoscopy and my doctor only took 3 biopsies. I was told by a nurse practioner in the Gastro office that my positive TTG IGA test translated to about a 98% chance that I have Celiac so I find it likely that the biopsies missed the damage. Regarding Barrett's Esophagus, I have burning gastritis pain every day which I could attribute to that but I have many other symptoms that BE would not be causing (stomach cramps, frequent/loose stools, chronic fatigue, night sweats). I am very frustrated that the biopsies did not confirm my diagnosis. Has anyone else had a positive TTG test but negative biopsy? I am planning to go off gluten starting today and see how I feel. If anyone has advice or a similar experience, I would appreciate hearing from you!

 

Thanks!

Allison


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



tessa25 Rising Star

If you only did the one blood test you could always have the full celiac blood tests done before going gluten free.

The full celiac panel includes:

TTG IGA
TTG IGG
DGP IGA
DGP IGG
EMA
IGA

You can either have a gastroenterologist order the full celiac panel plus whatever else they typically test for, or you can order your own test at a site like walkinlab.com. At walkinlab.com it's called the celiac comprehensive test and costs $298.00 (not covered by insurance). The blood draw is done at your nearest Labcorp. You get your results in less than a week at walkinlab.com .

If you are high on more than just the TTG IGA you would have more proof. Or you could go gluten free now and recheck TTG IGA in three months to see if it goes down with gluten free. You would have to have the same lab run the recheck as the original test.

pikakegirl Enthusiast

I was hospitalized i 98 with symptoms and had colonoscopy and endoscopy but both missed it. Was told i might have chrones but unsure. I was discharged with steroids which i did not take. Saw 2 more gastros and they said it didnt seem like chrones but IBS. Put me in psyc and on antidepressants. Went along like this with lots of strange seemingly unrelated symptoms like hypothyroid, kidney stones, weight gain, muscle pain, high crp, gallbladder malfunction among some. But in 2007 felt like an ulcer was brewing and my 5th gastro nailed it even before the positive blood came back. I have read the damage can start at the illeum near the colon and small bowel and take time to reach the 3 ft of begining small bowel the endoscope is limited to. By 07 i had  3 positive biopsies. I think if i had taken the steroids it would have masked the symptoms even more delaying diagnosis longer, possibly to my demise.

gluten-free Survivor Rookie

Do Genetic Testing to see if you have the genes for Celiac disease! It's  pretty spot on and not expensive.

If you don't have Celiac disease, you may be gluten intolerance! 

I wish you all the best and hope you feel better soon. 

kareng Grand Master
1 hour ago, gluten-free Survivor said:

Do Genetic Testing to see if you have the genes for Celiac disease! It's  pretty spot on and not expensive.

If you don't have Celiac disease, you may be gluten intolerance! 

I wish you all the best and hope you feel better soon. 

The TTG wouldn't be elevated by non-Celiac gluten intolerance 

kareng Grand Master
3 hours ago, AllisonMcM said:

Hi All,

I have been following this forum since testing positive for Celiac via one blood test a month ago (TTG IGA: 43 (normal range <15). I wanted to confirm my diagnosis via biopsy so I scheduled an endoscopy which I had last week. I just received the biopsy results and they were: no sign of Celiac but evidence of Barrett's Esophagus. I've been reading on this forum since last week how easy it is to miss Celiac via endoscopy and my doctor only took 3 biopsies. I was told by a nurse practioner in the Gastro office that my positive TTG IGA test translated to about a 98% chance that I have Celiac so I find it likely that the biopsies missed the damage. Regarding Barrett's Esophagus, I have burning gastritis pain every day which I could attribute to that but I have many other symptoms that BE would not be causing (stomach cramps, frequent/loose stools, chronic fatigue, night sweats). I am very frustrated that the biopsies did not confirm my diagnosis. Has anyone else had a positive TTG test but negative biopsy? I am planning to go off gluten starting today and see how I feel. If anyone has advice or a similar experience, I would appreciate hearing from you!

 

Thanks!

Allison

It is possible to miss the Celiac damage .  Your TTg test is pretty high to be from something else.  A good thing to do would be to go completely gluten-free and have your blood re-tested in 6 months to see if the TTg went down.  

GFinDC Veteran

Yep, get the full celiac disease antibodies test panel before going gluten-free.  the antibodies start to drop after going gluten-free so the tests are not accurate.  
there have been other people post about having positive antibodies and negative biopsies.  Celiac disease testing isn't perfectly accurate yet.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



AllisonMcM Rookie

Thank you all for the replies! I got blood drawn today for the four remaining tests on the celiac panel that were not run last month (I had the EMA run last month as well as the TTG IGA - EMA was negative). I hope that these results will give me a more definitive idea.

Thanks again!

Allison

kviolin Newbie
(edited)

I had a similar experience except I had a full celiac panel. Ttg >100 (positive was >4) and my endomysial antibodies were positive (not to mention low vitamin d, iron, and elevated ALT/AST). My blood work alone is pretty much 100% celiac, but the endoscopy done by my first GI only came up mild blunting (no marsh score or celiac diagnosis from biopsy). Switched to a GI who is much more fluent in celiac and he did a capsule endoscopy. This does not allow a biopsy which is the “gold standard” however he said my damage was very extensive all through the second section (jejunum) of the small intestine which I don’t think would have been reached by the endoscopy. 

Edited by kviolin

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,991
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    ZENken
    Newest Member
    ZENken
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Wheatwacked
      Have faith, you will survive. I get mine from Pipingrock.com.  500 capsules of 10,000 IU for $22.  That is almost two years worth for me.  250 caps 5000 IU for $6.69 if you only take 5,000 a day.  It's like half the price of Walmart.
    • Wheatwacked
      Testing can't alone be trusted.  Else why would it take so many years of testing and retesting and misdiagnosis to finally be told, yes you have Celiac Disease. As to what to eat, I like pre 1950 style food.  Before the advent of TV dinners.  Fresh food is better for you, and cooking from scratch is cheaper.  Watch Rachel Ray's 30 Minute Meals for how to cook.  Keep in mind that she is not gluten free, but her techniques are awesome.  Just use something else instead of wheat, barley, rye. Dr Fuhrman is a ex cardiologist.  His book Eat to Live and Dr Davis' book Wheatbelly were instrumental in my survival.
    • Scott Adams
      If you have DH you will likely also want to avoid iodine, which is common in seafoods and dairy products, as it can exacerbate symptoms in some people. This article may also be helpful as it offers various ways to relieve the itch--thanks for the tip about Dupixent, and I've added it to the article:  
    • Scott Adams
      I just want to clarify that what I posted is a category of research summaries we've done over the years, and nearly each one shows that there is definitely a connection to celiac disease and migraine headaches. The latest study said: "the study did indicate some potential causal associations between celiac disease and migraine with or without aura, as well as between migraine without aura and ulcerative colitis...this study did not find evidence of a shared genetic basis..." Anyway, there is definitely a connection, and you can go through more of the articles here if you're interested: https://www.celiac.com/celiac-disease/celiac-disease-amp-related-diseases-and-disorders/migraine-headaches-and-celiac-disease/
    • SusanJ
      Two months ago, I started taking Dupixent for dermatitis herpetiformis and it has completely cleared it up. I can't believe it! I have had a terrible painful, intensely itchy rash for over a year despite going fully gluten-free. See if your doctor will prescribe Dupixent. It can be expensive but I am getting it free. When the dermatitis herpetiformis was bad I could not do anything. I just lay in bed covered in ice packs to ease the pain/itching and using way too Clobetasol. Dapsone is also very good for dermatitis herpetiformis (and it is generic). It helped me and the results were immediate but it gave me severe anemia so the Dupixent is better for me. Not sure if it works for everyone. I cannot help with the cause of your stress but from experience I am sure the severe stress is making the celiac and dermatitis herpetiformis worse. Very difficult for you with having children to care for and you being so sick. Would this man be willing to see a family therapist with you? He may be angry at you or imagine that your illness is a psychosomatic excuse not to take care of him. A therapist might help even if he won't go with you. Also do you have any family that you could move in with (with the kids) for a short time to get away? A break may be good for you both.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.