Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Son Has Celiac Gene


kathy1

Recommended Posts

kathy1 Contributor

well the Dr called today and said that my 8 yr old sons blood tests came back postive. He said he has the celiac gene but since he has absolutely no symptoms, he said he does not need to go gluten-free. He suggested taking calcium, vitamen D and iron. My son is healthy, in the 85th percentile height and weight. The Dr said that if his growth should slow, then he would take a sample from the intestines?? I am happy about this as the thought of working with a child to remain gluten-free is a difficult task at best, but I would do it if it were necessary.

What are you thoughts on this? have you heard of this option before and how does it fare? I don't want to find out years later that I attributed to making my son sick, but I dont want him to go gluten-free if it is not medically necessary either.

My husb was DX in mid Dec (blood test only) and he is asymptomatic also, but based on his age, 45 the Dr said it was best to go gluten-free.

Has anyone gotten a 2nd opinion on their test results before making life altertering changes?

Thanks for the guidance, I don't know where I would be with out everyone here!!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



chrissy Collaborator

when you say his blood tests came back positive, are meaning positive that his antibodies are raised, or just positive that he has the gene? just having the gene itself does not mean he will get celiac.

christine

Guest nini

my opinion (and I stress ONLY MY OPINION) is that if he has the gene, this means he is predisposed to developing Celiac. Now, there are theories that there has to be a trigger to activate it, but I believe that there are smaller signals earlier on that the body cannot tolerate gluten. I think that ending up with Celiac is only part of the puzzle, having the gene means his body is NOT DESIGNED TO DIGEST GLUTEN, therefore, yes, you would be doing damage by continuing to feed him gluten. Look at it as a preventative measure. If you put him on the gluten free diet you would be helping to increase his chances that he wouldn't get intestinal lymphoma or a similiarly deadly condition...

It's actually easier to manage this diet in children. Sure they are tempted when they are with their friends, but you teach them how to manage it properly. If your husband has been dx'ed with this, then he would have a "buddy" to face this with. There are plenty of normal junk food snacks that kids can have, and plenty of gluten free alternatives to those things that aren't naturally gluten free. My daughter and I have been living this diet for almost 3 years now, it really isn't that difficult. It's not a death sentence to put him on the diet as a preventative measure, BUT it may be a death sentence if you continue to feed him gluten. Are you willing to take that chance?

I will reiterate that I believe that gluten is toxic for everybody, ESPECIALLY those that test positive for the genes that are recognized to be linked with Celiac.

tarnalberry Community Regular

up to a third of the population has one of the genes, but that doesn't mean they all have problems with wheat. the general advice is, in the case of having the gene but neither symptoms, nor positive antibodies, nor positive biopsy, to retest regularly (every year or two, I believe) indefinitely, to catch it in case he does develop celiac. it's your call, though.

Jnkmnky Collaborator

Going gluten free is not that difficult. I would advise you to go gluten free for your son asap. Teach him all there is to know about living gluten free. Begin the diet. What a great place to begin it from. Learning is a breeze when accidents don't cause severe cramping, diahrea, nausea, brain fog, joint pain, rashes, or expose you to any one of the horrifying auto immune diseases that have no "cure". I've seen a child with celiac disease in full swing. You do NOT want to have a child like that. You do not want to learn the diet with a child who is overcome with physical pain or house-bound by accidental ingestion of gluten. You want a handle on this now. He has the gene??? Good. Do the diet. Learn what the consequences are for those who do not adhere to the 100% gluten free diet when they have full-on celiac disease. Brainwash your son now while he's still able to accept this diet as a way of life. It is way more difficult to give up Dominoes, Burger king, Potato bread :P , Subway, and all the other wonderfully textured gluten containing foods, when you get older. My Celiac son couldn't care less what the smell of Dominoes signifies for others. He doesn't drool at the smell of oven-hot french bread. He has no hard-wired taste experiences of these delicious gluten foods. He thinks Kinnikinnick bread is the best. He drools when I mircowave a Kinnikinnick bagel and tell him I'll be buttering it for him in just a minute. :lol: I highlighted the words "for your son" because this is about making his future easier. It's way easier to do it now, than to wait until he's older. My entire family is gluten-free. Only one member has celiac disease. The foods aren't all that bad at all, but the knowledge of what you're missing can get to you pretty bad. I recommend the book Dangerous Grains. I think it's great. Link below.

lgleeson Newbie
well the Dr called today and said that my 8 yr old sons blood tests came back postive. He said he has the celiac gene but since he has absolutely no symptoms, he said he does not need to go gluten-free. He suggested taking calcium, vitamen D and iron. My son is healthy, in the 85th percentile height and weight. The Dr said that if his growth should slow, then he would take a sample from the intestines?? I am happy about this as the thought of working with a child to remain gluten-free is a difficult task at best, but I would do it if it were necessary.

What are you thoughts on this? have you heard of this option before and how does it fare? I don't want to find out years later that I attributed to making my son sick, but I dont want him to go gluten-free if it is not medically necessary either.

My husb was DX in mid Dec (blood test only) and he is asymptomatic also, but based on his age, 45 the Dr said it was best to go gluten-free.

Has anyone gotten a 2nd opinion on their test results before making life altertering changes?

Thanks for the guidance, I don't know where I would be with out everyone here!!!

Rikki Tikki Explorer

My mother was diagnosed with this a few months ago, me about 3 years ago. Based on that my brother had the blood test. He tested high positive but did not have any symptoms. He then had the biopsy, his villi was flattened and the scan on his bones showed he had damage. Based on this and what I have learned the last 3 years I would have your son go gluten free.

Again, it's only my opinion


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



kathy1 Contributor
when you say his blood tests came back positive, are meaning positive that his antibodies are raised, or just positive that he has the gene? just having the gene itself does not mean he will get celiac.

christine

I wish I had been home to get the call, but my husband talked the Dr and (god love him) he does not think to ask all the questions I would have wanted to ask. I have left a message for the Dr to call me back so I can get more information. I am not sure if the Dr stated antibodies or the gene were present or both.

We both really like this Dr. he is very thorough and seems to be on top of things.

"just having the gene itself does not mean he will get celiac".

If he has just the gene, then I should be ok with the wait and see approach??

I can't wait for the Dr to call back next week!!!!

Rikki Tikki Explorer

Jnkmnky:

The thought of Dominos may not make your son's mouth water, but your talking about it just made mine!

krisb Contributor
I will reiterate that I believe that gluten is toxic for everybody, ESPECIALLY those that test positive for the genes that are recognized to be linked with Celiac.

I completly agrea with this. Even if someone doesn't have full blown celiac I have learned that gluten is bad for many people. Plus I read an article that it's important to recognize a predisposition to celiac before the villi are gone. You want to catch it before that happens. People are so afraid of trying the diet. there are too many negative comments about it. So many people try the diet just for the health benefits and realize they feel better anyway. Little symptoms that people live with there whole life seem to disapear.

The diet isn't hard at all once you get the hang of it. If there is something my kids want to eat I just make it in the gluten free form. You don't even know the difference. The only hard thing is bread but people do live on an atkins diet.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,338
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Erica Johnson
    Newest Member
    Erica Johnson
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • par18
      Been off this forum for years. Is it that important that you get an official diagnosis of something? It appears like you had a trigger (wheat, gluten, whatever) and removing it has resolved your symptom. I can't speak for you, but I had known what my trigger was (gluten) years before my diagnosis I would just stay gluten-free and get on with my symptom free condition. I was diagnosed over 20 years ago and have been symptom free only excluding wheat, rye and barley. I tolerate all naturally gluten free whole foods including things like beans which actually helps to form the stools. 
    • trents
      No coincidence. Recent revisions to gluten challenge guidelines call for the daily consumption of at least 10g of gluten (about the amount in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for a minimum of 3 weeks. If possible, I would extend that two weeks to ensure valid testing.
    • SilkieFairy
      Thank you both for the replies. I decided to bring back gluten so I can do the blood test. Today is Day #2 of the Challenge. Yesterday I had about 3 slices of whole wheat bread and I woke up with urgent diarrhea this morning. It was orange, sandy and had the distinctive smell that I did not have when I was briefly gluten free. I don't know if it's a coincidence, but the brain fog is back and I feel very tired.   
    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.