Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Very Sick Teenager


michelle4boys

Recommended Posts

michelle4boys Newbie

I really need some help :unsure: I have a 15 year old that has been very sick for 3 months now. I wont even go into the FULL story because it would be just WAY too much reading. Basically.... he has been diagnosed with TONS of different allergies. In the course of 3 months he has been prescribed 13 (i think) different medications. The latest med is Zantac. Zantac was prescribed for the vomitting and pains he has been having on and off. He can vomit several times a week. He complains of stomach pains - sharp and dull, stomach cramping - sometimes severe. (He has not lost any weight)

We found out he had a wheat allergy thru the allergist. He was also just tested for molds. One that he is allergic to is Candida. No one ever told us to do anything about the Candida. We started him on a wheat free diet (not gluten free) a few weeks ago. I have not noticed any significant change in the way he feels. He still complains and still vomits a couple times a week. I discussed at our last visit the possiblity of Celiac. The doctor dismissed this - saying "Most Celiac's have diareaha". Is this true? Instead of walking out of the office with any answer - we walked out with yet another prescription and a "well maybe he is developing ulcers". @@

I dont even know what to do at this point in time other than to change to a more aggressive doctor. I guess my question would be... does it sound AT ALL like Celiac? I'm just at a loss. I'm at the end of my rope with watching my child get sick and dont know what to do. ANY information or advice would be GREATLY appreciated!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



chrissy Collaborator

no---not all celiacs have diahreah (SP?) can you ask the doctor to just humor you and run the test? one of my twins was nauseated for 3 months and now that ashe is gluten free, her nauses has improved.

christine

michelle4boys Newbie

what tests would I ask for?

key Contributor

I am sorry your son is so sick. He definitely should be tested for celiac. They don't have to have diarhea. ARe you seeing a pediatric Gastroenterologist? If you are, then you need to find another one and if you aren't you need to find one.

I hope you find the answer soon.

Does he having any gas or bloating with this?

Hope you get some answers. Obviously though it is time to find a new doctor.

Monica

michelle4boys Newbie

No he is only seeing our family practice doctor. She only wants him to see an allergist. I think its time to move on....

jerseyangel Proficient

I would also suggest you have him tested for Celiac. I am 49, but had nausea as my main symptom from the time I was in my 20's. Because nausea and dizziness were my main symptoms, I was misdiagnosed for many years. The D did not begin to be a problem until about 10 years ago--and did not get severe until 2 years ago. You need to ask for the complete Celiac blood panel. Moving on from the allergist is a good idea for this. A gastroenterologist with Celiac experience would be the best person to talk to.

michelle4boys Newbie

Well - I took your advice. I was under the impression I needed a referal to see any specialist. This is new insurance we have. I called my insurance company and NO referal needed!!! I will call in for a gastro.... specialist tomorrow! Thank you very much! I know it sounds like such a 'minor' thing but I already feel this is a huge step forward in finding out what is wrong. And here I was trying to get a referal that was refused by the family practitioner @@ So, believe it or not - you've all helped me so much already! Any step forward is a good step! Thank You!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



celiac3270 Collaborator

Diarrhea is not necessary for a celiac diagnosis by any means--there are over 212 symptoms and diarrhea is not even the most common of them! Definitely get him tested.

jerseyangel Proficient

Michelle--It's not minor at all! So happy you got the go-ahead from the ins. co. Good luck--and let us know how he does :)

Merika Contributor

Diahrea is not always there. It could swing all the way to constipation. Or bowel movements could be perfectly fine. Mine were always fine and it took me 12 YEARS and an accidental diagnosis to find out about celiac. I wish you and your son luck in feeling better.

Merika :)

marciab Enthusiast

My daughter just turned 18 and has severe environmental and food allergies. I worry about her too. Her body, esp her face, swells on a regular basis. She takes Zyrtec daily and uses a rescue inhaler as needed. We are going to her doctors for asthma meds today. They prescribed Zantac too, but her stomach issues come and go, so she refuses to take it every day. Did they tell you that Zantac has an antihistamine in it ?

I completely agree with the rest about having him tested for celiac. But meanwhile, your son should start paying more attention to which foods he is eating and what the results are. Be sure he keeps a journal. The elimination diet would be the fasted way to see if he has food allergies, but he has to be eating wheat, rye, barley and oats for the celiac tests to be accurate. My daughter has concluded that she is allergic to bananas, coconut and pineapple. Bananas make her mouth tingle. She loves Reeses and is in denial about peanuts.

I'm planning on having my daughter tested for celiac the next time they draw blood on her. I heard about that woman who's body swelled up from celiac. My daughter sees what I eat and really wants no part of it. This should be fun !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck and Hang in there ... It's tough being a Mom... Marcia

Ashley Enthusiast

I would absolutely recommend having him tested for Celiac. I had no Diarrhea whatsoever. The symptoms are different with each individual. With some cases, some lose significant amounts weight (which happened to myself...eighty pounds :wacko: ) and others have none. Hope your Son makes way to feeling much better!

Rachel--24 Collaborator

Hi,

I never had diarreah either. Don't let the doctor tell you that w/out diarreah you cant have celiac...its not true. My doctor said the same thing...they are just misinformed.

pixiegirl Enthusiast

I have tons of food allergies as well and similar symptoms, pain, gas, all sorts of GI symptoms. You might want to talk to the GI doctor about having your son take Gastrocrom... its a mast cell inhibitor... (which are allergy related) its got virtually no side effects, you mix a few drops with a glass of water before you eat and it mitigates the allergic response to food. As far as drugs go, its very low on the scale of being bad for you. It is the only thing that has worked for me with my food allergies, I'm feeling almost totally normal right now. The only bad thing about it is: it has to be take before every meal and bedtime and it takes about 2 weeks to really work.

However even if he takes it for the short term it would give his system some time to heal up. I really suggest you ask your doctor about it and do some Google research, its help me tons and I believe there are others on this list that have taken it and I am on a few other lists for GI disorders and it seems its helped tons of people. Again very low on side effects (I've had none at all, other then feeling great).

Just an idea!

Susan

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. 0

      Penobscot Bay, Maine: Nurturing Gluten-Free Wellness Retreat with expert celiac dietitian, Melinda Dennis

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,334
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    johnfreirefr
    Newest Member
    johnfreirefr
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
    • Scott Adams
      I do not know this, but since they are labelled gluten-free, and are not really a product that could easily be contaminated when making them (there would be not flour in the air of such a facility, for example), I don't really see contamination as something to be concerned about for this type of product. 
    • trents
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.