Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Neurologic Problems with celiac disease


becca2357

Recommended Posts

becca2357 Newbie

For the last 6-8 months, I've been having issues with brief spasms in my upper body. They're typically brief (2-3 seconds max), and seem almost like I'm shivering because of temperature, though they happen regardless of whether I'm indoors or outdoors, warm or cool, and I normally get them upwards of five times a day. Following them, I usually loose my train of thought for a moment, and occasionally will have considerable pain in my lower back and shoulders. Given I have celiac and am very strict with eating only gluten-free foods, plus I have a strong reaction when I do get cross-contamination, I doubt this is related to gluten, but was wondering if anyone else has had this issue or if it is potentially a symptom of another autoimmune disease/neurological condition. Thank you!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Scott Adams Grand Master

Welcome to the forum!

It's possible that this is a symptom of another condition, but have you tried keeping a food diary and eliminating other foods, for example dairy, soy, corn, etc., to see if there is a connection? Also, do you include gluten-free oats in your diet? I ask about oats because around 10% of celiacs are also oat intolerant, even if those oats are certified gluten-free.

Also, have you mentioned these symptoms to your doctor? As you mentioned, since you have one autoimmune condition it does make it more likely that you could develop another one, but if your diet is 100% gluten-free it can help minimize the risk of this happening. 

Re-checking your diet to be sure it's 100% gluten-free would be another recommendation. Check your medications, supplements, makeup, and other products.

MADMOM Community Regular
5 hours ago, Scott Adams said:

Welcome to the forum!

It's possible that this is a symptom of another condition, but have you tried keeping a food diary and eliminating other foods, for example dairy, soy, corn, etc., to see if there is a connection? Also, do you include gluten-free oats in your diet? I ask about oats because around 10% of celiacs are also oat intolerant, even if those oats are certified gluten-free.

Also, have you mentioned these symptoms to your doctor? As you mentioned, since you have one autoimmune condition it does make it more likely that you could develop another one, but if your diet is 100% gluten-free it can help minimize the risk of this happening. 

Re-checking your diet to be sure it's 100% gluten-free would be another recommendation. Check your medications, supplements, makeup, and other products.

i have gotten spasms like that here and there and pains in my shoulders and back - i can say that i’ve felt it when i’ve eaten something that may have gotten contaminated but i’ve also felt it other times - it usually goes away but i’d try taking some magnesium and vitamin d 

knitty kitty Grand Master
(edited)
On 1/26/2022 at 7:35 PM, becca2357 said:

For the last 6-8 months, I've been having issues with brief spasms in my upper body. They're typically brief (2-3 seconds max), and seem almost like I'm shivering because of temperature, though they happen regardless of whether I'm indoors or outdoors, warm or cool, and I normally get them upwards of five times a day. Following them, I usually loose my train of thought for a moment, and occasionally will have considerable pain in my lower back and shoulders. Given I have celiac and am very strict with eating only gluten-free foods, plus I have a strong reaction when I do get cross-contamination, I doubt this is related to gluten, but was wondering if anyone else has had this issue or if it is potentially a symptom of another autoimmune disease/neurological condition. Thank you!

Welcome to the forum! 

When do these sensations happen?  I ask because I have similar weirdness when my blood glucose level drops suddenly.  This happens sometimes when I might be sitting watching a movie for a while and abruptly get up and start moving around.  It takes a few moments while my body adjusts to the higher energy demands, during which time I can feel my blood glucose level go down as the sudden activity rapidly uses up what glucose is available.  And the shivers and chills happen, and various muscle cramps because the muscles don't have a big enough energy supply.  

I have Type Two Diabetes and Celiac.  I have to be aware of how long it's been between meals so my blood glucose doesn't drop.  Sometimes a drink of water on an empty stomach will cause my glucose to drop.  

I agree with @Scott Adams.  Keep a food journal noting when these sensations occur in relation to mealtimes and activity level.  An inexpensive glucose meter might be helpful.

Hope this helps! 

P. S. The lack of glucose to my brain will make me lose my train of thought, too.  

 

Edited by knitty kitty
Added post script
sunyuzhe Apprentice

Could it be some kind of vitamin b deficiency?like b1 or b12?

DistantShores Rookie
On 1/26/2022 at 7:35 PM, becca2357 said:

For the last 6-8 months, I've been having issues with brief spasms in my upper body. They're typically brief (2-3 seconds max), and seem almost like I'm shivering because of temperature, though they happen regardless of whether I'm indoors or outdoors, warm or cool, and I normally get them upwards of five times a day. Following them, I usually loose my train of thought for a moment, and occasionally will have considerable pain in my lower back and shoulders. Given I have celiac and am very strict with eating only gluten-free foods, plus I have a strong reaction when I do get cross-contamination, I doubt this is related to gluten, but was wondering if anyone else has had this issue or if it is potentially a symptom of another autoimmune disease/neurological condition. Thank you!

Hey Becca,

It wouldn't hurt to bring it up to your doctor. I've been experiencing similar symptoms and have started trying to investigate it with my medical team. Like mentioned already, I also recommend a food diary and taking stock of what you are consuming and identifying any potential sources of cross contamination. Reflect on any changes in the last few months following these symptoms. Keep up the vitamin intake as well. 

Kate333 Rising Star

I struggle with chronic depression/anxiety issues, esp. health anxiety.  Chills and body aches are very frequent physical symptoms I have noticed, esp. when my stress level spikes, as it has since the recent celiac disease diagnosis, pandemic, and job loss.  Check out Anxietycentre.com.  It's an excellent website resource which includes articles on how mental and physical health are so closely interconnected and how stress can trigger so many "strange" physical symptoms.  It also has tons of helpful videos, suggestions for coping with "life challenges".   You could also ask your primary doc for a referral for counseling or a low-dose anti-depressant/anti-anxiety medication, if needed.  

I hope you feel better soon!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      130,060
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    libby1234
    Newest Member
    libby1234
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.3k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      I agree, low carb/no carb is the best way to go.   I follow the Autoimmune Protocol Diet, a ketogenic Paleo diet, for my diabetes and celiac disease.  I keep carbs low.  The AIP diet helps immensely to keep my blood glucose levels in range.  I supplement with Benfotiamine, a form of thiamine, because the pancreas uses lots of thiamine to make insulin and digestive enzymes.  Thiamine deficiency can precipitate diabetes.   Thiamine is needed to turn carbohydrates into energy.  In an effort to ration thiamine if there's insufficient thiamine, the body turns excess carbohydrates into fat and stores it, hense the rise in obesity.  (Our bodies are naturally more efficient at burning fat for fuel.)  Highly processed foods do not contain sufficient vitamins and minerals needed for the body to process them into energy and enzymes necessary for the body to function and grow properly.  This is called High Calorie Malnutrition by Dr. Chandler Marrs and Dr. Derrek Lonsdale (Hiding In Plain Site:Modern Thiamine Deficiency).  Dr. Lonsdale has studied thiamine in children and adults with diabetes and other diseases for decades.  Their website "hormones matter" is very informative.
    • pasqualeb
      Might want to see a rheumatologist also, as if this is an autoimmune disease they might be better equipped to to handle and treat. I was finally diagnosed after a biopsy on one of my quads. Condition known as IBM or inclusion body myositis . Good luck  Good luck 
    • trents
      Wends is correct in that for generations the food pyramid chart we were given with carbs at the base is incorrect. The average person gets far too many of their calories from carbs and coincidentally, more calories than they need for good health since carbohydrate rich foods are also calory rich foods. The body can learn to convert protein and fat into energy more efficiently when carbs are withheld. This is the basis of the ketogenic diet and why it works so well. I am not sure I would go full keto for a developing child however. Carbs are not evil. The problem isn't carbs per se but too many carbs.
    • Soleihey
    • Wends
       In terms of a low carb diet the thing to remember is that it is not a “no carb” diet. Far from it. There are a lot of misconceptions. Real food is the key. Avoiding refined sugars and starches. In the textbook that doctors use it states that “Carbohydrates” are not essential to life, unlike proteins and fats. Glucose on the other hand is essential, yes, and the liver makes and tightly regulates all it needs in the presence of adequate calories from proteins and fats. It’s biochemistry 101.  My personal view is that the NHS advice is out of date. And no wonder the life expectancy and quality of life of people with diabetes down the road is reduced - not to mention the cost to the NHS when complications arise decades after diagnosis because too much insulin to keep numbers in range is like a bandage to cover up while under the surface the damage is still going on. Retinopathy. Peripheral neuropathy. Sorry, don’t want to doom and gloom. But it’s true. The fuel you choose today dictates tomorrow. The information is out there in the scientific papers. It’s a can of worms but there is decades of scientific literature to back up a natural low carb diet. Professor Tim Noakes of Cape Town university went through a three year trial (and won) after a dietitian accused him because he recommended weaning a child on to meat after breastfeeding. They said they needed carbohydrates. He’s a professor of sports and exercise and medical doctor with diabetes. There’s a whole host of Professors and medical doctors and dietitians and medical professionals around the world advocating for real food and essentially a low carb diet. Humans evolved over millennia on real food. None of the modern high carb ultra processed or modern breads of the last century or so. Check out the Public Health Collaboration UK based charity. There’s conference videos online and free info. I think type 1 diabetes was covered a few years ago. Dr David Cavan UK specialist. Professor Knoakes also came out with a great cookery book called Superfood for Superchildren…from toddlers to teens. It is part of the Real Meal Revolution series of healthy eating. It sounds like youre on this already with breastfeeding and eating healthy so good on you! So sorry about the cards your little one has been dealt but with the right education and diet it is totally manageable and there’s no reason not to have stable blood sugars and have a long and happy life without diabetes complications. Same as children diagnosed with coeliac disease, a healthy naturally gluten free diet is the antidote to the gluten poisoning. Sugar and refined starches are toxic to diabetics. With modern technology of blood glucose monitors it’s easy to figure out suitable foods by how different foods effect the blood glucose level. Sorry, the reference of igA deficiency possibility was to Trent’s reply regarding Total igA and “artificially low” positive test. Not the case as the NHS screen total igA. In terms of poo signs. The Guts UK charity has loads of great info.  
×
×
  • Create New...