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Ok Lisa- natural calm for me was a big no no I have a bottle of it haven't touched it in a year it completly f**ed up my system-

Rachel I think oxy powder only comes in fomr one place Oxygen research. But I worte this too you before - the amount they recommend on the bottle is way too much in my opinion. (and others) so be careful!!! It usually works pretty well but i find if i take too much it creates a lot of gas and bloating (which I am prone too) and ends up blocking as opposed ot freeing up stuff- You definitly have to ease into it and figure out the right amount for you.


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i have alot of other things I want to respnd too and writes but i am having a rough time hopefully I will feel better tomorrow and post in the morning right now I think I need to get a castor oil pack on my belly and watch my baseball game in bed.

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Many would say the " +/-" equivocal ["IND"] bands are not significant. The problem I have with that, is that there are "-" negative bands. The lab has no trouble calling some bands negative. So they must be seeing something when they put "+/-" at some bands.

Yeah....see this is what I had read a long time ago too. This same article written by that same Dr. explaining the Western Blots.

This is exactly why I asked Dr. Harris about my IND's....because I had *thought* they were significant.

He said that they werent....it just means they should redo the test because its inconclusive.

I asked him if it meant that the tech *saw* something....not strong enough to be "clearly" positive...but still *something* there??

He said no....it means the tech couldnt get anything "clear" either way. He wasnt comfortable to call it negative and not comfortable to call it positive....its not a weak positive. Its inconclusive.

I figure I'd go with what he said since he must know how this works. He's the guy that developed the tests afterall. So yeah...I think the Dr. in the article is just "guessing" as to what an IND means....its his own interpretation.

When theres any IND's on those double starred bands...even if the test is negative....it warrants furthur investigation.

AndreaB Contributor
I'll try it and let you know how it goes. I'm kind of scared though. :ph34r:

She said everyone tolerates it really well and she tested me for it....but I'm still kind of concerned. :unsure:

Hope it goes well for you. I'll be looking for updates.

ART sessions dont involve urine tests, or blood tests.....or anything like that. Its just Kinesiology.....thats it. They wouldnt be doing any type of challenge tests for mercury if you're going there for ART.

The ART testing itself is what identifies the problems.

I knew that. I don't want to put her through the test with my doctor if she doesn't really need it. They do do different metal removal stuff up there though. I couldn't even begin to remember what exactly she said. I'd never heard of it before though, I CAN tell you that. :blink:

Rachel--24 Collaborator
They do do different metal removal stuff up there though. I couldn't even begin to remember what exactly she said. I'd never heard of it before though, I CAN tell you that. :blink:

I dont think she can be doing anything that we dont already know about. I think I've already learned the various ways of detoxing metals from all the Dr.'s, Anna and Scott. Dr Amy never talked about anything I wasnt familiar with. :unsure:

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Umm, I believe it took me three weeks to eat that donut. The next week I split the remainder in half .... it was a gluten-free donut btw.

Seeeeeee :blink: .....I rest my case. :P

Rachel--24 Collaborator

Andrea....now you have me all curious about what type of metal detox she was talking about. :P


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Dear Julie,

Yep, misery is us and we love each other's company! ;) It really sucks having digestive issues all of the time. That is the real difficulty. If I get my hair done next week, I have to take my promethazine. I will get so sleepy, it will be like I am stoned!

Oh yeah, the perfect man is definitely a cookie! Chocolate chip is my favorite. I had those last week. My daily limit is 4. I get sick if I have too much. I cannot believe you racheled 60 cookies in a day! :o I would have died!

Dear tom,

Hey, quit whining! You are the judge! What more could you want? Voting is solely up to the women. This is due to the fact that men are crazy. They go buy power tools that they never use, then yell at us if we buy a lousy lipstick! :angry::lol:

Dear Rachel,

The geese were poisoned by their food! Someone from Auxigro Corp. snuck into their food supply with it. HEINOUS!

This was uncovered during the investigation! Our poor geese were victims. Half of them are in mental wards. No one knows when they will recover.

Plus, they are addicted to msg! They are currently undergoing detox. Rehab has not been easy for them. It is uncertain when they will be released. However, Auxigro having to pay for the massages certainly helps pay for their evil crimes! Oh yes, the courthouse has to be a yurt! It is Rachelville!

Sincerely,

Jin

tom Contributor
I've been meaning to ask.....what is up with Freddy?? Who is Freddy anyway?? :unsure:

I know that you are Freddy Mercury Spice :P ....but whats the story behind Freddy??

I hope you're not sorry u asked in an open forum Rachel, cuz I can tell right now there's a real chance I'll get carried away. (And no . . . I'm NOT talking about the guys w/ the butterfly nets driving a padded truck.)

Freddie Mercury was the singer for a little English group called Queen. Many will say their top song was "Bohemian Rhapsody", but those fans are neither true Queen fans nor in any way knowledgeable about 70s rock.

Their biggest impact song by far was a medley of sorts - "We Are The Champions/We Will Rock You". It's 30 yrs old this yr and is still played in sports stadiums nationwide and perhaps in lands beyond. I'd certainly expect their own U.K..

And not just by the stadium personnel.

When the fans stomp & clap to make that

Bomp Bomp boom!

Bomp Bomp boom!

THAT is the beginning of "We Will Rock You".

The guitarist, Brian May, could easily viciously rip w/ the best of the era & shouldn't be left out of any all-time-great rock guitar lists.

They excelled at enough different styles, you'd think "that can't REALLY all be the same 4 guys, can it?"

The operatic "Bohemian Rhapsody",

"Another One Bites the Dust", "Crazy Little Thing Called Love", "Under Pressure" (w/ David Bowie), vaudevillian "Killer Queen", brilliant softer pop-rock "You're My Best Friend", and so many that never became hits.

Oops - does that count as carried away?

Hehe Rachel - sorry ya asked?

Some song name reminders from

Open Original Shared Link

And that allmusic.com is the most complete, best organized music site in the known galaxy.

jmengert Enthusiast

It was actually 60 cookies in a few days, if that's any better :) I rarely feel full, so I can eat a lot, but I'm better than I used to be. I was down to 95 pounds at one point and got used to eating to put on weight. I'm back to my normal weight now, but I just don't gain weight easily, which makes it seem okay to eat a lot, too, which I know is bad! I actually won't allow myself to make cookies anymore since I scarf them down with reckless abandon.

Now, anything with a lot sugar really bothers me. I do a reduced carb/sugar diet. If I ate that many cookies now, it would not be pretty. But, those were some good times.... ;)

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Oh yeah, the perfect man is definitely a cookie! Chocolate chip is my favorite.

I think I would have to agree with this. :P

If theres a perfect man out there for me....he's definately a cookie. :lol:

Oh....and I could totally rachel 60 cookies. :ph34r:

....especially if they were oreos with milk, chocolate chip, fig newtons, or those pink and white circus animal things. :D

jmengert Enthusiast

Tom--just wanted to add that I love Queen and was very sad when Freddie Mercury died, even though it was quite a few years ago. I've been known to sing Bohemian Rhapsody at a karaoke night.....

Rachel--glad to know that I'm not the only one who can rachel 60 cookies!

AndreaB Contributor
Hi, Jin--I'm sorry you're feeling badly today. I'm right there with you--nausea and diarrhea are back. Sigh.

Sorry Julie. :( I wonder what else is sneaking up on you.

i have alot of other things I want to respnd too and writes but i am having a rough time hopefully I will feel better tomorrow and post in the morning right now I think I need to get a castor oil pack on my belly and watch my baseball game in bed.

Hope you feel better in the morning. I'd like to hear how your appointments went this week. :)

Andrea....now you have me all curious about what type of metal detox she was talking about. :P

I just went to her webpage to try and figure it out. I thought the gal said cold something or other. The do a cold laser, but I don't know why Talitha would need something like that. I guess we'll find out everything in a couple weeks. Her appointment is on the 28th. Mitch is going to go with us for this visit so he can see what it's like......providing mom's available to watch the other two.

rinne Apprentice

Wasn't Freddy Mercury that incredibly sexy man, stockings and all, in the Rocky Horror Picture Show?

Edited to add, nope although I found a review mentioning Tim Curry's resemblence to Freddy Mercury.

tom Contributor
Jin....the courthouse is a yurt!!...how funny is that!! :lol:

LOL ya no kiddin'!

I have a nephew who was conceived in a yurt!! They even CALLED him Yurtle for awhile and got a license plate of same!

rinne Apprentice
....

For treatments it would seem plausible to say they were Carla'd if you followed doctors directions.......especially is your name is Rachel. :P

:lol:

I look forward to hearing how the appointment for Talitha goes. I think Talitha is a wonderful name, how did you chose it?

....

I think most of us here have LLMD'S who are also addressing the other issues that tend to go with Lyme but I see alot of people on LymeNet *just* taking antibiotics....nothing else. I think thats a bad idea. :(

...

The CanLyme site is mostly ABX and the last time I was there very little on detox.

I think it is symptomatic of our society that we want to take a pill that will fix everything. I think it is a huge mistake when it comes to Lyme.

....

RACHELVILLE AUXIGRO TRIAL

Today in Rachelville, Piper Li Jin prosecuted Auxigro, Inc. The militant geese had been poisoned by this corporation. This was horrific. Redneck Deer are now guarding the town from the terrible threats made by the company's environmentally dangerous escapades. Buck, the head of the Redneck Deer, testified on behalf of the town.

It was found that Auxigro, Inc. is guilty of unspeakable crimes against humanity and the environment. Not only had they poisoned the militant geese, but people outside of the small cult-farm town. Bongo, the purple glittery bat was not allowed in the court room (due to the no glittery pink berry-scented bat poo law), but did protest against the Auxigro shenanigans.

He then proceeded to poop on the company's CEO, who had to then remove his jacket before entering the court room. (Remember, no bat poo!)

Buck testified about the corporation attempting to bribe them, and get them addicted to msg! The jury was shocked. The silence was so evident, a pin could be heard dropped. The President testified against the evil conglomerate as well. Rachel said the geese had exhibited symptoms of msg poisoning prior to the lawsuit being made public. That is when they decided to bring the village doctor to the stand.

Because the courthouse is a yurt, reporters were forced to remain outside. The rest of the media was as well. (There would not have been room for the defendants and plaintiffs). Witnesses (two more Redneck Deer by the names of Earl and Jim-Bob) said they saw the Auxigro CEO attempt to bribe Buck. Judge tom decided the punishment. Not only will Auxigro pay $240 Million to the town of Rachelville, but the defendants must fulfill the sentence by the jury. Jury members consisted of DingoGirl, dlp252, Clark Bent as Stupor Man, Grump1, tabasco34, jmengert, JudyfromPhilly, jerseyangel, Triticus Toxicum, akJenny, CarlaB., and Fiddle-Faddle.

The jury decided to force Auxigro to endure the most severe punishment. The first have to be in a purple glittery bat poo storm. After they survive, they must clean up after them. Next, they have to perform community service involving scooping dingo doo-doo. Finally, they are to pay for the gorgeous Adonis-like men who are building the community yurt for celebrations. Massages shall be given as well to all Rachelville women, and therefore, shall also be paid for by the Auxigro Corp.

Sincerely,

Jin

:lol::lol::lol: Well done Jin. :)

<pouts> I bet she'd let Richard vote!

I'm going to my ROOM!! SLAM!!

:lol:

Umm, I believe it took me three weeks to eat that donut. The next week I split the remainder in half .... it was a gluten-free donut btw.

:o:lol:

i have alot of other things I want to respnd too and writes but i am having a rough time hopefully I will feel better tomorrow and post in the morning right now I think I need to get a castor oil pack on my belly and watch my baseball game in bed.

Hope you feel better. :)

.....

Dear Rachel,

The geese were poisoned by their food! Someone from Auxigro Corp. snuck into their food supply with it. HEINOUS!

This was uncovered during the investigation! Our poor geese were victims. Half of them are in mental wards. No one knows when they will recover.

Plus, they are addicted to msg! They are currently undergoing detox. Rehab has not been easy for them. It is uncertain when they will be released. However, Auxigro having to pay for the massages certainly helps pay for their evil crimes! Oh yes, the courthouse has to be a yurt! It is Rachelville!

Sincerely,

Jin

LMAO, thanks Jin.

tom Contributor

<pouts> I bet Carla'd let Charlie or Grump vote!

I'm going back to my ROOM!! SLAM!!

Jin - the mystery cc is soooo annoying huh? Hope you're better tomorrow.

Hope EVERYONE's better tomorrow!!

NoGluGirl Contributor

Dear Julie and Rachel,

Oh yes, the perfect man is a cookie! Fig Newtons, Oreos, you name them, I miss them! :lol: Cookies are the only sweet I ever really loved besides chocolate! However, the best will always be a Nestle Tollhouse Chocolate Chip Cookie

hot and chewy! :wub: They are the best ones!

Dear tom,

Yes, the courthouse is a yurt! I think that is so funny that your nephew was conceived in one! :lol: How weird is that? Now it is obvious that you belong here! What do you think Carla, does that give him voting rights?

I am a Queen fan, too! I like a lot of their songs! Just because I was born in 1982 does not make me uncultured! Queen is legendary. It is such a tragedy Freddy Mercury died so young.

I hope I feel better soon, too! Thanks! I have no idea what could be hurting me. My parents get crumbs everywhere, but I am paranoid careful! Me and Monk are probably alike in way too many ways. I am probably very OCD on some stuff.

Dear Carla,

My Dad taught me a great trick to copyright my work. You know I just realized I spelled that wrong! Oh well, I know now! Dad said a great way to copyright something officially is take the original copy and mail it to yourself, then do not open the envelope. I also know a notary public.

Dear Rinne,

I am glad you enjoyed the Auxigro Lawsuit! :lol: I cannot even believe I made that stuff up! I hope Susie gets to read it! I think she will enjoy that! She seems to have gone AWOL. It must be the Percoset!

Sincerely,

Jin

tabasco32 Apprentice

Hey I'm not dead yet. Just real real sick.:)

Rachel,

I don't know maybe I was in love with someone named Freddy? Oh yeah, Freddy Mercury! I have been listening to Queen since I was 5. So about 29 Years.

Oh cookies. Life just isn't fair right now. Oreos sound good. And any Mothers cookies too. Like the chocolate, vanilla, and strawberry ones. The wafer ones. I think I'm going to get some macaroon cookies.

tom Contributor
Tom--just wanted to add that I love Queen and was very sad when Freddie Mercury died, even though it was quite a few years ago. I've been known to sing Bohemian Rhapsody at a karaoke night.....

Rachel--glad to know that I'm not the only one who can rachel 60 cookies!

Oh ya it's a classic 70s song - just a departure from the essence of Queen. Freddie died in '91 btw.

Hehe when it comes to cookies, I was quite the racheler - way b4 I had any celiac knowledge.

W/ Oreos, there was no counting cookies, just rows.

jmengert Enthusiast

Hi, Lisa--Of course not! I have every hope that you'll be feeling much better very soon, and I'm sending good thoughts your way.

Hi, Tom--Wow. I can't believe it was '91. Doesn't seem like it's been that long.

tabasco32 Apprentice

Hey Jin,

Wheres my massage from those sexy guys and my paycheck?!?:)

tom Contributor
Wasn't Freddy Mercury that incredibly sexy man, stockings and all, in the Rocky Horror Picture Show?

Edited to add, nope although I found a review mentioning Tim Curry's resemblence to Freddy Mercury.

Bingo!!! All I could think of was Tim ____

I think Freddie would've been too young when it was filmed. Not young as in unable, but that Dr. Frankenfurter was supposed to be older.

AndreaB Contributor
I think Talitha is a wonderful name, how did you chose it?

Mark 5:41 from the bible......talitha cumi. It means little girl (Talitha) arise (cumi). It was when Jesus brought Jairus's daughter back to life.

Tom,

The story about your nephew. :lol:

NoGluGirl Contributor
Hey Jin,

Wheres my massage from those sexy guys and my paycheck?!?:)

Dear Lisa,

They are getting here. I am waiting on mine, too! That is what you get when you are an attorney for the state! :rolleyes: Being the D.A. is not all glamour you know! There is responsibility to uphold! Auxigro is not going to weasel out of this, especially not the massages with the hot guys!

I think the macaroons sound great, too! I wish I had some. I am really needing something. I thought about making snickerdoodles, but feel so rough. Hopefully, tomorrow will be a better day!

Dear tom,

Oreos are so good! They make some like them that are gluten-free called Katoos. Kinnickinnick sells them. I know people have tried them, and they said they are good! I am going to recreate these delicious brownies that are really rich soon. I know I need to be careful, because I am reducing my sugar intake gradually. I will have to calculate the grams of sugar in them so I know to stay within my boundaries.

Dear Andrea,

That is so beautiful how you got your daughter's name! I like the name Asher from the Torah and Old Testament for a boy. I have a cousin whose fifth child is named Micah, like your son. Seth is one name we actually do not have in our family. We have a lot of biblical names, though. Mary is expecting her sixth baby now, and I am curious what she will choose for this child. She has chosen primarily names from the Bible as well.

Sincerely,

Jin

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      Welcome, @catnapt! The most recent guidelines are the daily consumption of a minimum of 10g of gluten (about the amount found in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for a minimum of two weeks. But if possible stretching that out even more would enhance the chances of getting valid test results. These guidelines are for those who have been eating gluten free for a significant amount of time. It's called the "gluten challenge".  Yes, you can develop celiac disease at any stage of life. There is a genetic component but also a stress trigger that is needed to activate the celiac genes. About 30-40% of the general population possesses the genetic potential to develop celiac disease but only about 1% of the general population actually develop celiac disease. For most with the potential, the triggering stress event doesn't happen. It can be many things but often it is a viral infection. Having said that, it is also the case that many, many people who eventually are diagnosed with celiac disease probably experienced the actual onset years before. Many celiacs are of the "silent" type, meaning that symptoms are largely missing or very minor and get overlooked until damage to the small bowel lining becomes advanced or they develop iron deficiency anemia or some other medical problem associated with celiac disease. Many, many are never diagnosed or are diagnosed later in life because they did not experience classic symptoms. And many physicians are only looking for classic symptoms. We now know that there are over 200 symptoms/medical problems associated with celiac disease but many docs are only looking for things like boating, gas, diarrhea. I certainly understand your concerns about not wanting to damage your body by taking on a gluten challenge. Your other option is to totally commit to gluten free eating and see if your symptoms improve. It can take two years or more for complete healing of the small bowel lining once going gluten free but usually people experience significant improvement well before then. If their is significant improvement in your symptoms when going seriously gluten free, then you likely have your answer. You would either have celiac disease or NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity).
    • catnapt
      after several years of issues with a para-gland issue, my endo has decided it's a good idea for me to be tested for celiac disease. I am 70 yrs old and stunned to learn that you can get celiac this late in life. I have just gradually stopped eating most foods that contain gluten over the past several years- they just make me feel ill- although I attributed it to other things like bread spiking blood sugar- or to the things I ate *with* the bread or crackers etc   I went to a party in Nov and ate a LOT of a vegan roast made with vital wheat gluten- as well as stuffing, rolls and pie crust... and OMG I was so sick! the pain, the bloating, the gas, the nausea... I didn't think it would ever end (but it did) and I was ready to go the ER but it finally subsided.   I mentioned this to my endo and now she wants me to be tested for celiac after 2 weeks of being on gluten foods. She has kind of flip flopped on how much gluten I should eat, telling me that if the symptoms are severe I can stop. I am eating 2-3 thin slices of bread per day (or english muffins) and wow- it does make me feel awful. But not as bad as when I ate that massive amnt of vital wheat gluten. so I will continue on if I have to... but what bothers me is - if it IS celiac, it seems stupid for lack of a better word, to intentionally cause more damage to my body... but I am also worried, on the other hand, that this is not a long enough challenge to make the blood work results valid.   can you give me any insight into this please?   thank you
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