Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Wheat Allergy Testing


Lane R

Recommended Posts

Lane R Rookie

Considering that everyone here has provided more information for me than anything or anyone else, I thought I'd come to you for questions.

First - a little background:

--I've hurt somewhat most of my life - joint and muscle aches. Push on my muscle and it hurts. Didn't realize this wasn't NORMAL till a few years ago. However, I tend to have above average muscle mass for a woman. (we call this Wisconsin Hearty Peasant Stock symdrome.)

--Popping joints, cracking joints.

--I also have a gas issue, as I'm seemingly very gassy.

--I have a long history of occasional stomach upsetness. As child, really bad - only laying on the cold bathroom floor and drinking milk would help. Now it ranges, from mild upsetness to laying on the floor. I'd say it happens at an above average rate.

--Some bowel irregularity in consistency, frequency, etc. I don't recall this ever being any different. Some foods - usually eating out (like any meal at Denny's or McDonalds) cause a reaction within an hour or so.

--I've been overweight (30-50 pounds on average) most of my life and little seems to help me change this. Even steady exercise and limited caloric intake cause little effect.

--I feel tired a lot of the time, and my mother kept saying she thought we had ADD because things would get foggy a lot of the time.

--I LOVE bread and ate it all the time.

I received interdermal testing for allergies and came up wheat-allergic. I did some research and learned that interdermals can have false positives.

Still, I read Wheat Free-Worry Free, and decided to start a gluten-free diet. That was a week and a day ago, which I'm reading on here is not long enough to have a substantial change in symptoms. Still, I felt better during the first week and lost two pounds (which could be due to a severe change in eating habits, and psychosomatic response.)

My allergist, after some "Why would you want that?" questions, has said he'd order me a RAST if I wanted to ensure I'm allergic to Wheat, and I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow morning where I will have to request a test for celiac.

The questions I have are:

--Is a RAST expensive?

--How reliable is a RAST?

--If I've gone wheat-free, is a RAST going to fail?

--Should I get tested for celiac?

All of your help is appreciated in advance.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Ursa Major Collaborator

Hi Lane, and welcome to this board. Yes, you sound very much like you may have celiac disease. But it is unwise to go gluten free before testing for celiac disease. It won't matter for a wheat allergy test. Now, you may get a negative on the allergy test, because celiac disease is not an allergy and the gluten containing grains will usually not show up on allergy tests for people with celiac disease. They certainly didn't for me.

And your weight loss of two pounds would be pretty typical for somebody who GAINS weight on gluten (I am one of those). And of course your changed eating habits would have a lot to do with it.........after all, you've cut out gluten!

tiffjake Enthusiast
Hi Lane, and welcome to this board. Yes, you sound very much like you may have celiac disease. But it is unwise to go gluten free before testing for celiac disease. It won't matter for a wheat allergy test. Now, you may get a negative on the allergy test, because celiac disease is not an allergy and the gluten containing grains will usually not show up on allergy tests for people with celiac disease. They certainly didn't for me.

And your weight loss of two pounds would be pretty typical for somebody who GAINS weight on gluten (I am one of those). And of course your changed eating habits would have a lot to do with it.........after all, you've cut out gluten!

Double Ditto. If you think you might have Celiac, then you want to test for a gluten antibody in your system. And that is different than a wheat allergy. You will have to be eating gluten for it to show up though (you body won't produce the anitbody if you aren't subjecting it to the antigen-which is gluten, if you have a problem with gluten). So you will want to ask your doctor for the celian panel of anitbody tests, after you have been eating gluten again. OR, like so many people on here have done, stick with the gluten-free diet if it works for you, and you aren't needing a doc to give you a diagnosis for any reason. I am glad to hear that it is working for you!!!!!!!!! And that you are feeling better! (And I also gain weight when I eat gluten, a good eight pounds over night!)

Lane R Rookie

Thank you for your responses!

So, even a week off of gluten will make a difference in the testing?

Do you know if being off wheat will affect the results of a test for the allergy to wheat?

VydorScope Proficient
So, even a week off of gluten will make a difference in the testing?

Alot of debate about that realy, but I would say if you got back on it and stayed on it till the test prbly not... if you stayted off it... possibly.

Do you know if being off wheat will affect the results of a test for the allergy to wheat?

No, but any allergy meds your taking WILL, stop them at least several days, if not a week, befor.

Lane R Rookie

Yipes! I saw my doctor today and she suggested that I be tested for celiac - WOW. I've only heard bad things - I'm so glad to know that she thinks it is a good idea. I thought I was going to have to bring it up and fight to have it done!

The bloodwork is tomorrow...although I can put it off for a couple of days as well. I've only been off gluten for a week and a couple days, so if I started eating gluten again today - do you think that would show up tomorrow morning?

wonkabar Contributor
The bloodwork is tomorrow...although I can put it off for a couple of days as well. I've only been off gluten for a week and a couple days, so if I started eating gluten again today - do you think that would show up tomorrow morning?

How wonderful that you're doc suggested testing for Celiac. :) Just make sure he orders the full panel which consists of 5 different labs. Also, confirm that all of the labs for the Celiac panel were infact drawn before you leave the lab. The lab screwed up my son's bloodwork and "forgot" to draw blood for two of the tests. We unfortunatley didn't find this out until he was on a gluten-free diet for a full month!

If you could put off the labs for awhile, I would. Even though you've only been on a gluten-free diet for less than two weeks, it will effect your results. You need to be eating gluten in order for your body to react to it. If there's nothing for the antibodies to react to, you'll get inaccurate results. You really shouldn't change your diet at all until you've completed any testing for Celiac.

If you're taking any typeof medication with an antihistamine, you need to be off of it for 3 days prior to any allergy testing. An antihistamine will definately effect your results. Lots of luck!

--Kristy :)


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



tiffjake Enthusiast
How wonderful that you're doc suggested testing for Celiac. :) Just make sure he orders the full panel which consists of 5 different labs. Also, confirm that all of the labs for the Celiac panel were infact drawn before you leave the lab. The lab screwed up my son's bloodwork and "forgot" to draw blood for two of the tests. We unfortunatley didn't find this out until he was on a gluten-free diet for a full month!

If you could put off the labs for awhile, I would. Even though you've only been on a gluten-free diet for less than two weeks, it will effect your results. You need to be eating gluten in order for your body to react to it. If there's nothing for the antibodies to react to, you'll get inaccurate results. You really shouldn't change your diet at all until you've completed any testing for Celiac.

If you're taking any typeof medication with an antihistamine, you need to be off of it for 3 days prior to any allergy testing. An antihistamine will definately effect your results. Lots of luck!

--Kristy :)

That happened to me too, botching the bloodwork. The first time I my doc drew it the lab ordered the wrong tests. When I went back, 3 weeks later, for the results, the doc told me what happened, and order a new panel. When he got THOSE results, they were boarderline. He was suprised because he didn't think my levels would have gone down in just 3 weeks. But I informed him that I had already done the Lame Advertisement and Enterolab tests (and I showed him those results) and that I was VERY gluten-free after that first blood draw.

I would eat gluten between now and your test so the anitbody levels will show up. And Kristy is right about not taking anithistamines!!! Be careful with your meds, and only take what you must, like Birth Control, or Heart meds. I am glad that your doc was so great about everything! That is rare! I hope you get a good draw and good results that you and your doc can work with!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,564
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    larrybrinkley
    Newest Member
    larrybrinkley
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):




  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Flash1970
      Thank you for the links to the articles.  Interesting reading. I'll be telling my brother in law because he has a lot of pain
    • Scott Adams
      Oats naturally contain a protein called avenin, which is similar to the gluten proteins found in wheat, barley, and rye. While avenin is generally considered safe for most people with celiac disease, some individuals, around 5-10% of celiacs, may also have sensitivity to avenin, leading to symptoms similar to gluten exposure. You may fall into this category, and eliminating them is the best way to figure this out. Some people substitute gluten-free quinoa flakes for oats if they want a hot cereal substitute. If you are interested in summaries of scientific publications on the topic of oats and celiac disease, we have an entire category dedicated to it which is here: https://www.celiac.com/celiac-disease/oats-and-celiac-disease-are-they-gluten-free/   
    • knitty kitty
    • knitty kitty
      Hi, @Ginger38, I've had shingles in the past.  I understand how miserable you're feeling.   Not only do i have the chickenpox virus lurking about, I also have the cold sore virus that occasionally flares with a huge cold sore on my lip when stressed or exposed to gluten.  The virus lives dormant in the nerves on the left side of my face.  It causes Bell's Palsy (resulting in drooling).  The cold sore virus is also in my eye.  My eye swells up and my vision is diminished permanently whenever I have a flare, so it's of the utmost importance to keep flares away and treat them immediately if they do happen so I don't lose any more vision.   I take the amino acid supplement L-Lysine.  Lysine messes with the replication of viruses, which helps the body fight them off.   I haven't had an outbreak for several years until this year when exceptionally stressed and contaminated, it flared up again. Lysine has been shown to be beneficial in suppression of viruses like the cold sore virus (a herpetic virus), the chickenpox virus (also a herpetic virus), as well as the HIV virus, and even the Covid virus.   I also take additional Thiamine in the form TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) because Thiamine has antiviral properties as well.   For pain, a combination of Thiamine (like TTFD or Benfotiamine or Thiamine Hydrochloride), with B12 Cobalamine, and Pyridoxine B6 have been shown to have analgesic properties which relieve pain and neuropathy.    The combination of Thiamine B1, Pyridoxine B6 and Cobalamine B12 really does work to relieve pain.  I take it for back pain from crushed vertebrae in my back.  This combination also works on other pain and neuropathy.   I usually buy a supplement that combines all three and also Riboflavin B2 called EXPLUS online.  However, it's made in Japan and the price with the tariffs added makes it really expensive now.  But the combination of Thiamine B1, Pyridoxine B6 and B12 Cobalamine (and Riboflavin B2) still work even if taken separately.   I can't take Tylenol or ibuprofen because of stomach upsets.  But I can take the vitamin combination without side effects.  However, you can take the three vitamins at the same time as other pain relievers for added benefit.  The vitamins help other pain relievers work better. I hope you will try it.  Hopeful you'll feel better quickly. Interesting Reading: Thiamine, cobalamin, locally injected alone or combination for herpetic itching: a single-center randomized controlled trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23887347/ Mechanisms of action of vitamin B1 (thiamine), B6 (pyridoxine), and B12 (cobalamin) in pain: a narrative review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35156556/ Analgesic and analgesia-potentiating action of B vitamins https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12799982/ A Narrative Review of Alternative Symptomatic Treatments for Herpes Simplex Virus https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10301284/
    • Mari
      I think, after reading this, that you areso traumatized by not being able yo understand what your medical advisors have been  what medical conditions are that you would like to find a group of people who also feel traumatized who would agree with you and also support you. You are on a crusade much as the way the US Cabinet  official, the Health Director of our nation is in trying to change what he considers outdated and incorrect health advisories. He does not have the education, background or experience to be in the position he occupies and is not making beneficial decisions. That man suffered a terrible trauma early in his life when his father was assonated. We see now how he developed and worked himself into a powerful position.  Unless you are willing to take some advice or  are willing to use a few of the known methods of starting on a path to better health then not many of us on this Celiac Forum will be able to join you in a continuing series of complaints about medical advisors.    I am almost 90 years old. I am strictly gluten free. I use 2 herbs to help me stay as clear minded as possible. You are not wrong in complaining about medical practitioners. You might be more effective with a clearer mind, less anger and a more comfortable life if you would just try some of the suggestions offered by our fellow celiac volunteers.  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.