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Less Than 0.02% Gluten In Minute Made Frozen Lemonade


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Tori's Dad Apprentice

We called about Minute Made soft frozen lemonade and they said that they test and gluten content in less than 0.02% but they won't say it is gluten free. Is that just a CYA thing? Is it still safe?

The ingredient label looks fine except for the ususal "Natural Flavor".

Thanks!


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Ursa Major Collaborator

If it has any amounts of gluten in it, I'd say, don't drink it. Why risk a reaction? Some people wouldn't have an obvious reaction with that amount, while others would get quite ill.

Rikki Tikki Explorer

To me, no amount of gluten is safe :angry::angry::angry:

jerseyangel Proficient

I wouldn't try it--I'm extremely sensitive.

ravenwoodglass Mentor
We called about Minute Made soft frozen lemonade and they said that they test and gluten content in less than 0.02% but they won't say it is gluten free. Is that just a CYA thing? Is it still safe?

The ingredient label looks fine except for the ususal "Natural Flavor".

Thanks!

I wouldn't touch it.

tarnalberry Community Regular

Upon careful reading, I think this may be a miscommunication - and what is likely the case is that the test they run can only test down to 0.02%. They may not add any gluten at all, but tests can never test for *0* gluten, they can only test for whether or not it's above a certain level. I drink their 100% juice (and calcium added) that they have in the past noted is gluten-free. You might call back for clarification.

lovegrov Collaborator

Tiffany is right. MM is saying they've tested it to the lowest level possible and found no gluten, but (on advice of their lawyers, I'm sure) they aren't going to guarantee there's no gluten at all. They're also saying gluten isn't supposed to be in it.

I'd drink it without hesitation.

richard


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penguin Community Regular

minute maid is a coca cola company and they claim all of their products are gluten-free.

jenvan Collaborator

I agree with later sentiments here, % was re: testing capabilities, not gluten content. I just drank that lemonade a few days ago too.

hez Enthusiast

Our family drinks the pink lemonade, lemonade and limeade without issue. I think this is one of those cases where the lawyers have them scared (probably rightly so with all the lawsuits out there).

Hez

sclark9602 Apprentice

Do they have the gluten listed on their ing.? I just looked online and everything to me looked okay. Am I not catching something? I matched all the ing. to the Forbidden List and I didn't see any no no's.

mle-ii Explorer

Ok this sort of labeling is starting to scare me. I wonder if in the end all that is going to be done is testing like to say that it doesn't show gluten up to some level of testing and leave it at that. So in the end we won't know which foods are truely gluten free and which are not. Wonder if this is the slippery slope of the new labeling law. :(

Mike

penguin Community Regular
Ok this sort of labeling is starting to scare me. I wonder if in the end all that is going to be done is testing like to say that it doesn't show gluten up to some level of testing and leave it at that. So in the end we won't know which foods are truely gluten free and which are not. Wonder if this is the slippery slope of the new labeling law. :(

Mike

It's the same slippery slope we've been sliding on for a while. The thing about testing for gluten is that it's not sensitive beyond 20ppm, anything under that and it can't be detected. Until the technology can detect 1ppm, that's what we have to live with.

You just have to be your own advocate and make good decisions. Some companies are better than others.

lovegrov Collaborator

I think MM has been saying this for quite a while, well before the new labeling law. I just don't see anything scary or worrisome about the statement. They're basically telling you that if there's any gluten in it, it's accidental and so minor it can't be measured. In reality, NO company can actually 100 percent quarantee there's no gluten at all in anything.

richard

Tori's Dad Apprentice

A minor point of clarification...these are the frozen treats, not the drink. I agree that it is probably a CYA comment by them. They did say that they add no gluten....

I'll give them a call again and see what they say.

Thanks!

I called back and they said it meets CODEX's definition of Gluten free which is less than 0.02%.

penguin Community Regular
A minor point of clarification...these are the frozen treats, not the drink. I agree that it is probably a CYA comment by them. They did say that they add no gluten....

I'll give them a call again and see what they say.

Thanks!

I called back and they said it meets CODEX's definition of Gluten free which is less than 0.02%.

It's a CYA statment, I would eat my shoe if they weren't safe. CocaCola is one of the companies I trust, and last I checked, they don't make anything with gluten....

tarnalberry Community Regular
Until the technology can detect 1ppm, that's what we have to live with.

Then someone's going to say, "Well, that 1000ppb isn't good enough for me, there still might be some in there. Can't you test to 10ppb?" (1000ppb being 1ppm.) And sometimes, chemistry just can't keep up.

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majicbunnies Contributor

I had a 20 oz. bottle of Minute Maid Lemonade today. I feel kind of gaggy...Not really sick, just like my throat is saying "throw up"..hah.

Ingredients (iffy ones):

natural flavors

glycerol ester of wood rosin

Is high fructose corn syrup safe? I know it says corn syrup, but is there anything hidden?

gfp Enthusiast
It's a CYA statment, I would eat my shoe if they weren't safe. CocaCola is one of the companies I trust, and last I checked, they don't make anything with gluten....

Before or after walking through a bakery :P

I think in general the CODEX is accepted as a standard, even when not legally defined but 20ppm is not the lowest limit possible to detect but the lowest limit possible to detect on very cheap tests....which basically are defined by the food industry.

Much more accurate testing is possible but its a bit chicken and egg. IMHO. While the codex says 20ppm is gluten-free accurate testing will be much more expensive than the standard tests developed for a few $ ... because for a lab to set up instrumentation like GC-MS or LC-MS as a one off is much more expensive than if they tested everyday.

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