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The Funny Pages - Tickle Me Elbow - The Original


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Jestgar Rising Star
Last night- my cat got excited to see moles in the backyard--he pulled down the curtins in the kitchen window---fell into the sink with the curtins on top of dirty dishes, whilst tangled up inside them....This morning I come down to find more signs of an excited active cat and then come into the kitchen and he is sprawled out on the counter and just looking at me--like it is fine to be lounging on the counter to begin with.

The other night I made this gluten dreams vanilla cake and topped it with strawberry icing. There is about 1/2 the cake left and it was covered on the counter-he had got into that and pawed it up so I have pink paw prints on the counter tops.....The cake went into the trash....Was it a full moon or something????

:lol: :lol: :lol:


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DingoGirl Enthusiast
I think Allo is getting the hang of this travelling :D He washed up and napped on and off all day in the car, and tonight he ate, drank water, checked out the room, found his litter box and nary a meow from him. Hopephully, this behavior will continue over night..... We don't need any nocturnal hyjinks.....at least of the feline variety

noctural hyjinks!!!!! guffawed last night when I read this....... :lol:

Yes, Allo, the traveler ;) jaunty cat.....

makes me larph to think - - Kitteh was just sooooooooooooo overjoyed and happy and in LOVE with us when he got here - - could not kiss me/rub my face/try to snuggle enough (I was his hero and rescuer, after all), and, remember, I was kind of annoyed with him when he got here, and could not handle his mysterious STINK? :huh:

he's becoming just ever-so-slightly less affectionate - big, "mature" teenaged boy Kitteh, full of antics.....now I am pretty sure he just sees me as the big interference for all of his ruinous fun and hyjinks <_<

:lol:

Amanda - I can't even IMAGINE leaving a cake on the counter with pink, or any kind, of icing :lol: :lol: that would be EVERYWHERE - when I made those evil brownies, had to store them in the kitteh-proof microwave......

but just love the picture of Lucky in the sink tangled with curtains and dishes :lol:

I seriously need some nocturnal hijinks, and not of the feline variety.

*snooooooort* I know, I'm with you on that :angry:

yer boss - - I think I need to come in there and......I'll have a small screaming match with him, as I do in my office with MY boss.......lightens the tension and puts them in their place, by gum

:lol:

Hey Sillies . . . past me bedtime. Got an email from Lisa that I forwarded. She needs some distraction. She needs a scarf that looks like boobs. She needs some wackl . . . so get busy forwarding those innapropriate funny bits that come in from your coworkers, family members, and friends.

send her the boob scarf - I know she wants some, also :lol:

[still catching up . .. . I think . .. .saw last few pages .. . ]

Oh ya .. .NCIS ... thought last ep not as good as many but the "Israeli" is . ..Brazilian is it? Peruvian? Nah I'll go w/ Brasil.

is she Brazillian? she was rattling off in very fast and phluent Spanish the other night....I think she is ADORABLE and do love the SEXUAL TENSION between her and Dinuzzo......that's about the only reason I watch it *snort*

WHAAAAT?!?! in March??....are you sure Phoenix isn't a 'euphemism' for Hell?!?!

Yes, and FREZNO is too <_<

How's yer man phlughue, Nik???

oops - just heard a very loud CONK - must investigate -

okay - all is well - Kitteh has an OBSESSION with the blinds - wedges his body between the slats as often as he can - gahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

hmm, nocturnal hijinks w' me boss. But everything would end with 'great, now could you....'

:lol:

Judith and Tea, how's the yard work coming along?

Off to museums and such....saw Jersey Boys last night........Sooooooze, you'd have walked out. It was that good. .. . . ..

:o would have stabbed myself with......a butter knife...............

sillies dunno what else.................FABULOUS spring day here with a veil of clouds over the sky.............LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! going to play with me mum today...........what should we do........I am thinking a glamorous, tasty lunch somewhere..........

.....but where.......... <_<

Judyin Philly Enthusiast
noctural hyjinks!!!!! guffawed last night when I read this....... :lol:

Yes, Allo, the traveler ;) jaunty cat.....

Judith and Tea, how's the yard work coming along?

hi Susie

had to come in b/c of the rain.

i just wish i had a better handle on this possible move to CA

I see my 30 year old garden and stuff coming up.............

go to the basement and see all the work that needs to be done...........

and go take a nap

susie

tell me how wonderful Temecula CA will be for me.

it's just this 'can i do the move' thing

getting me brain all muddled up

want the warmth and sun and SON.

ALL I GET HERE ARE SOGGY LEAVES THAT SAY.......RAKE ME.........

OK JUST A WHINE ON A GLOOMY OLD RAINNY DAY.

JUDY

nikki-uk Enthusiast
he's becoming just ever-so-slightly less affectionate - big, "mature" teenaged boy Kitteh, full of antics.....now I am pretty sure he just sees me as the big interference for all of his ruinous fun and hyjinks <_<

Indeed! - as was Harry (now 'Haribo' ..Al's fave gluten-free sweet candy :rolleyes: )

He was UBER friendly and 'Oh hai! I love you!' type attitude....now very cool with the whole 'being a pet thing'

:lol: That's cats for yer!!!

OMG!! Venetian blinds and cats :rolleyes: , mine are wooden and they even have li'l feline teef marks on them from hai-jinkz

I don't know what Boris has done - but one front leg and paw is MASSIVELY swollen (one lions paw, one kitty paw :( )....he's not limping and when I felt it, he only pulled away when I touched the armpit. I think it's a bite - we'll see how it goes :rolleyes:

AMANDA's cat tales!!...and you have left over cake???? :blink: ...more self control than moi!! :lol:

How's yer man phlughue, Nik???

On the tail end now I believe!! :D

I actually plan to DO summat tomorrow!!! :lol:

hi Susie

had to come in b/c of the rain.

i just wish i had a better handle on this possible move to CA

I see my 30 year old garden and stuff coming up.............

go to the basement and see all the work that needs to be done...........

and go take a nap

susie

tell me how wonderful Temecula CA will be for me.

it's just this 'can i do the move' thing

getting me brain all muddled up

want the warmth and sun and SON.

ALL I GET HERE ARE SOGGY LEAVES THAT SAY.......RAKE ME.........

OK JUST A WHINE ON A GLOOMY OLD RAINNY DAY.

JUDY

Judith!! ...are you and Jim thinking of moving???? :unsure:

Darn210 Enthusiast
hi Susie

had to come in b/c of the rain.

i just wish i had a better handle on this possible move to CA

I see my 30 year old garden and stuff coming up.............

go to the basement and see all the work that needs to be done...........

and go take a nap

susie

tell me how wonderful Temecula CA will be for me.

it's just this 'can i do the move' thing

getting me brain all muddled up

want the warmth and sun and SON.

ALL I GET HERE ARE SOGGY LEAVES THAT SAY.......RAKE ME.........

OK JUST A WHINE ON A GLOOMY OLD RAINNY DAY.

JUDY

Wait just a minute!!!! Did WE know this???? Am I forgetting things??? So it's just a possibility?? Judy, when do you know/decide??

Darn210 Enthusiast

Hi Lisa!! Howya Doin'?? (((Hugs for ya)))

Sillies, I'm groing my hair out . . . a bit . . . it's drivin' me nuts. I think I'm gonna have to get it cut . . . I can nae take it no more!!! I need to put up an av of Smackl. He's been growing his hair out since the beginning of school (August). Has had only one "trim/shape up". We're starting to get a LOT of comments. Don't know if people really think it's a hoot (that's what they tell us) or if they're thinking . . . My gawd, what kind of parents are they that let him grow his hair like that!!! I told him that his hair wouldn't grow long, it would grow big . . . which is what it's done . . . it's not in his eyes, at least. You'll see. I'll post a photo.

blueeyedmanda Community Regular

OMG sillies--- here is the professional office humor of the day---which is real!!!!

Two days ago my boss asked me to change her printer cartridge. I said sure. Then she goes on to tell me that I should know where Jane *name changed* (ditsy assistant) keeps spare cartridges...I looked at my boss funny and said we don't keep spares...At 150 a pop we don't keep spares on hand-Plus we all have different printers so its not logical-plus when your cartidge is half empty the printer tells you to order more....So I come into her office and tell her I can put one of the list for her and when Jane comes back from vacation next week she can order more. My boss looks at me and says does that mean I have to wait? :blink: in my head after the last two hellish weeks at work due to the audit prep I am thinking to myself--well I don't have the ability to just crap one out so you got to wait...def would not say those words to her--she is a very scary woman....

Yesterday morning she starts whining about the cartridge again then procedes to ask me if I am able to order supplies---no and neither is any one else. Finally we ordered one for her through our other dept on the 6th floor.

Today it came in and I took it into her office-and assembled it into the printer for her. She then tells me she wishes she had a color printer....Sillies I must tell ya at this point I am just floored....She has a huge Laser Jet color printer/fax/copy all in one whoesywhatsy. I tell her it is a color printer-no its not is her response--I know it is a color printer I installed the color cartridges on it....she looks at me oddly again.... Then I had to show her how to print in color-she had her computer to force black and white print.....

This is what I deal with everyday.....How did some people get this far in life........ believe me this is causing laughs full circle but you know if this is all you need to be a boss heck I can be president!


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Darn210 Enthusiast
This is what I deal with everyday.....How did some people get this far in life........ believe me this is causing laughs full circle but you know if this is all you need to be a boss heck I can be president!

:lol::lol: - But not yet Amanda - I believe you have to be 35!!!

nikki-uk Enthusiast
He's been growing his hair out since the beginning of school (August). Has had only one "trim/shape up". We're starting to get a LOT of comments. Don't know if people really think it's a hoot (that's what they tell us) or if they're thinking . . . My gawd, what kind of parents are they that let him grow his hair like that!!! I told him that his hair wouldn't grow long, it would grow big . . . which is what it's done . . . it's not in his eyes, at least. You'll see. I'll post a photo.

SNAP!!! (looking forward to any pics! :lol: )

DC (Devil child) also has nae seen the scissors since August....but he has hair as curly as mine.....he is currently sporting the BIG afro look :lol: ....doesn't give a HOOT what anyone says :rolleyes:

...How did some people get this far in life........ believe me this is causing laughs full circle but you know if this is all you need to be a boss heck I can be president!

:lol::lol: ...so true Amanda!!!!

nikki-uk Enthusiast
:lol::lol: - But not yet Amanda - I believe you have to be 35!!!

Well I'm READY and fit that criteria!...... wait...:unsure:....do you have to be a US resident???? :lol:

blueeyedmanda Community Regular
Well I'm READY and fit that criteria!...... wait...:unsure:....do you have to be a US resident???? :lol:

You can be the first transcontinental pres!

elye Community Regular

Well, I am indeed museum-ed out. Um, call me jaded.....hey, call me old, but somehow every museum I walk into now seems exactly the same as the one before. .. ... . . ...fossils, dinos, flora and fauna evolution, primitive cultures and their tools. . . . . ..... :mellow:-_-

I need to walk into a new, exciting museum. There is a huge shoe museum not far from here (sounds about as fascinating as the neolithic flint arrow tips)... . .... . and the Hockey Hall of Fame..... .. ... .

Yawn city.....is that all this country can offer me? Crap, lookit what you can wander into whilst in Iceland:

Open Original Shared Link

:lol::o

Jooooodeeeee!! Are you moving to CA??

More gorgeous pet-love photos from Sooooozie... . . . .

Our Queen has the phloo.... :( . . . . Nik, didn't you just rid yerself of some icky thing?

Amanda! Lucky 's antics. . . .. . :lol:

Where is our Pahteigh? Mississippi bound .. . . . . .

Jestgar Rising Star
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Judyin Philly Enthusiast

yep we thinking of moving

Just didn't wantt to say anything.

Some of you know the 'funk' i've been in and some of the health issues and of course the biggie.......

not being close to our son for like 9 years.

It's just getting to me.

I need some sun, warm weather, one floor and some dirt i can dig in that's flat and not on a hill.

When you type it, it somehow makes it all more real

Changing Drs, dentists etc. all just add to the stress but in CA i felt so much better in that climate.

so .......we'll see and i'll keep you posted.

Patti is blazing the trail for me.

hope she didn't have fog all the way to Huston like she was thinking.

Guess tonight she'll be in the motel/hotel/condo/ Mark is staying in.

forget what she said it was.

will be good to hear from her when she checks in tonight.

thanks for the kind thoughts and thanks for caring.

Judy

Darn210 Enthusiast
Crap, lookit what you can wander into whilst in Iceland:

Open Original Shared Link

:o

:lol:

:unsure: . . . Ummm . . . What's the bloke in the photo doing?? . . . :lol:

Darn210 Enthusiast
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Jess!!!! What's with this groupling of cockroaches and Liberace in the same "bad taste museums" list . . . not fair to the cockroaches!!!

yep we thinking of moving

Just didn't wantt to say anything.

Some of you know the 'funk' i've been in and some of the health issues and of course the biggie.......

not being close to our son for like 9 years.

It's just getting to me.

I need some sun, warm weather, one floor and some dirt i can dig in that's flat and not on a hill.

When you type it, it somehow makes it all more real

Changing Drs, dentists etc. all just add to the stress but in CA i felt so much better in that climate. <----- :D

so .......we'll see and i'll keep you posted.

Patti is blazing the trail for me.

hope she didn't have fog all the way to Huston like she was thinking.

Guess tonight she'll be in the motel/hotel/condo/ Mark is staying in.

forget what she said it was.

will be good to hear from her when she checks in tonight.

thanks for the kind thoughts and thanks for caring.

Judy

Let us know if you need us to help pick out houses . . . you know how we like to stick our noses in other people's bidness . . . but look how good of a job we did with Amanda!! :lol:

Judyin Philly Enthusiast
Let us know if you need us to help pick out houses . . . you know how we like to stick our noses in other people's bidness . . . but look how good of a job we did with Amanda!! :lol:

how true 'dat'

What i need is a fork lift to pull the junk out of the house to get it ready to sell :lol:

yep, Amanda sure loves her new house.

and patti will find a great one too I just feel it

j

elye Community Regular

Holy crap... .. . . . the computer is free again. :huh: So here I am.

Got nothing to say. Just had to come on here.....because the computer is available.

Cannot believe it.

No one lining up behind me, clearing their throats, shuffling feet.. . . . ... ...

So.

A lot of weather we've been having lately .. .. . . .

:huh:

:lol:

Darn210 Enthusiast

Hey, look what I got for Skeeter:

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'cept I got a four pack and it was $5.00 at Bed Bath and Beyond. They basically make a push up pop. I bought toppings so we could make layers . . . yum . . . :droolyphace:

She wasn't too much of an ice cream cone person before (was it because it upset her tummy?) and I'm too much of a cheapa$$ to buy the $9.00 box of gluten-free ice cream cones which had 8 cones in it (everytime we try some new prepackaged item, there's probably a better than 50% chance that she won't like it). So I've had these since Monday and she's been hounding me to do it. On Tuesday, I said we would do them on Thursday . . . so immediately upon exitting the school bus "Mom, when are we going to make the cones?" . . . Me: "Later". Everytime I walked into the kitchen . . . Skeeter: "Now?" . . . Me: "Later" . . . even Smackl noticed the nagging . . . Smackl: "Jeesh, Skeeter, can't you say anything else?" (Ummmm, he doesn't actually call her Skeeter :lol::lol: )

So . . . it's done . . . and now the new question . . . "How much longer until we can eat them?" . . . GAHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Mtndog Collaborator

I need some cheering up- Emily's link has helped me discover my new career as a PHALLOLOGIST!!!!!!!!!!! I can study the phalluses of past,present and future. Make charts f growth trends :lol: People have gotten taller in the last 100 years, maybe they have gotten more phallogical :lol:

Nikkers- Sorry about your man phlugue.......did it give you a phallus? (cracking meself up here for the first tie in days!)

Suzlle- The kissers.....look at them. Gawd- makes my heart swell!!!!!!

I am in utter disbelief about Natasha Richardson- unreal. Just watched her in maid in Manhattan last week! Right before I joined the board I had a similar ski accident- going very slowly on a beginner trail. When I fell, I heard a snap but figured nuttin cause me neck always cracks. Waited ten days to go to the ER (symptoms got progressively worse). It was my neck but I can't tell you how many nurses attacked me with don't EVER wait to go to the ER if you hurt your head or neck. Poor Liam Neeson.

Allo and PadT n the road (oh no.... Willie Nelson just popped into me head "On the road again, going places that I've never been"....... Be safe!

Oh--I ran out of phood! :P (bad, bad Celiac!).....all I had left was some bread, Enjoy Life cookies and Stax chips. So we went to the grocery store near here and bought OM pre-cooked bacon, lettuce and a tomato and made BLT's in the room wif me toaster and the microwave. Pretty darn (sorry Jan-it) good, I have to say :D

Yum- road BLT's! Good thinking!

Well, since no one's silly, I'll post a little whiny rant.

My Boss has been SSOOOOOOO annoying.

I seriously need some nocturnal hijinks, and not of the feline variety. :angry:

Jess- Your whole post :lol: You could perhaps hijinks in Iceland! :lol:

hmm, nocturnal hijinks w' me boss. But everything would end with 'great, now could you....' :o:P

The nerve!!!!!!

Lisa (((((HUGS)))))))))

Janet- Oh, hair growing high jinx! Kurt has long hair, I'm growing mine out. Just DO it!

Amanda- :lol:

Nik- Our first intercontinental Prez! SA-WEET!

And Judy might be CA bound? Oh Judy- you'll love it! I miss it!

DingoGirl Enthusiast
tell me how wonderful Temecula CA will be for me.

it's just this 'can i do the move' thing

:o:o:o

Well I'm glad gianknit asked because I HAVE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT JUDITH MOVING TO CALIFORNIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

JUDITH!!!!!!!!! Temecula? all I know about it is that over two-thirds of their grapes (wine grapes) were decimated by the dreaded glassy-winged sharp shooter many years ago. that is SERIOUSLY all I know but.....IT"S IN CALIFORNIA!!!!!!!!!! IT"S NEAR JASON!!!!!!!!!!!

what ya waiting for!!!!!!?????????????????????

:)

and - you felt so much better here? dry, sunny clime down there......if they grow grapes, then it's warm........lots of sun.............

do it Judith.......

DOOOOOOOOOOO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He was UBER friendly and 'Oh hai! I love you!' type attitude....now very cool with the whole 'being a pet thing'

:lol: it is OH HAI!!!!! CAN I KISS YOU??????? ALL THE TIME until they grow up a bit, those devils :wub:

Wait just a minute!!!! Did WE know this???? Am I forgetting things??? So it's just a possibility?? Judy, when do you know/decide??

glad it weren't just me

we'll need a pic of Smackl's hair tout sweet, gianknit

Today it came in and I took it into her office-and assembled it into the printer for her. She then tells me she wishes she had a color printer....Sillies I must tell ya at this point I am just floored....She has a huge Laser Jet color printer/fax/copy all in one whoesywhatsy. I tell her it is a color printer-no its not is her response--I know it is a color printer I installed the color cartridges on it....she looks at me oddly again.... Then I had to show her how to print in color-she had her computer to force black and white print.....

This is what I deal with everyday.....How did some people get this far in life........ believe me this is causing laughs full circle but you know if this is all you need to be a boss heck I can be president!

Just LOVE This story Amanda :lol: x 10

Well I'm READY and fit that criteria!...... wait...:unsure:....do you have to be a US resident????

NO!!!!!!!!!! GET OVER HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nicola fer president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yawn city.....is that all this country can offer me? Crap, lookit what you can wander into whilst in Iceland:

:o

:lol: :lol: x 20

PHALLUS MUSEUM!!!!!!!!!! wif pizzles and stuff!!!!!!!!!! GAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi M :P

gian-knet - - quite intrigued wif yer popsicle things - let us know how they turn out - am jealous.......want ice cream badly.......waistline protests <_<

I need some cheering up- Emily's link has helped me discover my new career as a PHALLOLOGIST!!!!!!!!!!! I can study the phalluses of past,present and future. Make charts f growth trends :lol: People have gotten taller in the last 100 years, maybe they have gotten more phallogical :lol:

our Bevel, a PHALLOLOGIST!!!!!!!!!!!!! Perfect!

Bevel, not feeling so well today? aw, sending love and hugs........

Wonder where Paddeigh is now? and that posh traveler Allo Kitteh????

Haven't heard from Jules, have we.........

LISARGH was reading along earlier today, but did nae post?

well sills - must walk the Weez.............

more later :)

Mtndog Collaborator

JUDITH- HOLY Temecula- I missed the town name. Oh..so beautiful! I spent a semester at San Diego State ( we used to have an exchange program with them- more like a beach exchange!). I went up to Callaway Vineyards in Temecula for a day with a group of friends and it was MAGICAL.

We got wine, cheese and crackers (pre-gluten-free) and climbed up a very green hill and had a 6 hour picnic! By the end the two guys with us were streaking through the hillsides (mind you, I was 19 at the time!). It was one of my favorite memories!

Yes- Bevel is a wee bit sad. saw my PCP today and she thinks I might have Addison's Disease (autoimmune adrenal insufficiency- great!) :( JFK had it so at least I'm in good company!

Judyin Philly Enthusiast
Yes- Bevel is a wee bit sad. saw my PCP today and she thinks I might have Addison's Disease (autoimmune adrenal insufficiency- great!) :( JFK had it so at least I'm in good company!

Good God Bev. This can't be real

i read you were haveing a bad day

thanks for sharing.

Seems alot of us are keeping things all bottled up inside these days

our silly thread ain't that silly .........but as the song goes........'there are seasons for all things'

i love you Bevie.

Let's pray he's right

will write more later about CA

Right now just sad about our Bev news....Bev is this in addition to Lymes?????

prayers are yours for the nigth along with Nat and Lisa.

love you honey bunny

Judy

flourgirl Apprentice

Just a quickee pop in to say hello! Been enjoying the heck out of our weather....and I'll pay for it for days......worth it tho' :P Now we'll be back to more "seasonal temps"....can't wait fer summer B)

Manda....as the saying goes......those who can, do. Those who can't become supervisors! :lol: Makes you wonder sometimes....just how the incompetents get where they do.....and oh, they do!

Love the kitteh hijinks! Once had a cat who loved bread, of all things. Sneakers......(his name) would tear open the wrappers if I was foolish enough to leave it out..and chew away! When I was young, we had a cat who LOVED gum! He'd fish it out of my sisters pocketbook.

Hi Jude! I've found that the very hardest part of moving was leaving my gardens behind. I survived selling my house....my furniture and my junk.... but the gardens killed me. (I DID, however, bring along buckets of irises, peonies and other assorted bulbs <snickerbehindmyhandface>) I think I miss my gardens as much as I miss my family members (just don't tell)

I'll play catch up again tomorrow. Later

flourgirl Apprentice

Bev-really.....Ill keep you in my prayers, too. Right along with Lees-suh and her family, and so many others! Better days are coming, please hold on to that.

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      Wow KK, thank you so much for all your attached info. I had a very quick scan but will read more in depth later.  The one concerning corticosteroid use is very interesting. That would relate to secondary adrenal insufficiency I think , ie AI caused by steroids such as taken long term for eg asthma. I have primary autoimmune AI, my adrenals are atrophied, no chance if recovery there. But I am in touch with some secondaries, so something to bear in mind. .  Niacin B3 Very interesting too. Must have a good read about that.  Im sure lots of questions will arise as I progress with dermatitis herpetiformis. In the mean time, thanks for your help.
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      Welcome to the forum, @suek54, I have Dermatitis Herpetiformis, too.  I found taking Niacin B3 very helpful in clearing my skin from blisters as well as improving the itchies-without-rash (peripheral neuropathy).  Niacin has been used since the 1950's to improve dermatitis herpetiformis.   I try to balance my iodine intake (which will cause flairs) with Selenium which improves thyroid function.   Interesting Reading: Dermatitis herpetiformis effectively treated with heparin, tetracycline and nicotinamide https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10844495/   Experience with selenium used to recover adrenocortical function in patients taking glucocorticosteroids long https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24437222/   Two Cases of Dermatitis Herpetiformis Successfully Treated with Tetracycline and Niacinamide https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30390734/   Steroid-Resistant Rash With Neuropsychiatric Deterioration and Weight Loss: A Modern-Day Case of Pellagra https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12532421/#:~:text=Figure 2.,(right panel) upper limbs.&text=The distribution of the rash,patient's substantial response to treatment.   Nicotinic acid therapy of dermatitis herpetiformis (1950) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15412276/
    • suek54
      Thank you all for your advice and the dermatitis herpetiformis article. The latter made me realise I had stopped taking my antihistamine, which I will restart today. The Dapsone has cleared the rash entirely but I still get quite a bit itching, absolutely nothing to see though. I know its notoriously hard to clear and its still relatively early days for me.  The iodine issue is very interesting. I do eat quite a bit of salt because I have Addison's disease and sodium retention is an issue. I also have autoimmune hypothyroidism, not sure how a low iodine diet would play into that? Because of my Addison's I am totally steroid dependent, I take steroids 4 x daily and cannot mount any defence against inflammation. I need to increase my meds for that. Now that I know what is wrong I can do just that if Im having a bad day. Life is very sweet, just so damn complicated sometimes! Hey ho, onwards. Thank you again for your advice.  
    • trents
      So, essentially all of the nutrition in the food we eat is absorbed through the villous lining of the small bowel. This is the section of the intestinal track that is damaged by celiac disease. This villous lining is composed of billions of finger-like projections that create a huge amount of surface area for absorbing nutrients. For the celiac person, when gluten is consumed, it triggers an autoimmune reaction in this area which, of course, generates inflammation. The antibodies connected with this inflammation is what the celiac blood tests are designed to detect but this inflammation, over time, wears down the finger-like projections of the villous lining. Of course, when this proceeds for an extended period of time, greatly reduces the absorption efficiency of the villous lining and often results in many and various nutrient deficiency-related health issues. Classic examples would be osteoporosis and iron deficiency. But there are many more. Low D3 levels is a well-known celiac-caused nutritional deficiency. So is low B12. All the B vitamins in fact. Magnesium, zinc, etc.  Celiac disease can also cause liver inflammation. You mention elevated ALP levels. Elevated liver enzymes over a period of 13 years was what led to my celiac diagnosis. Within three months of going gluten free my liver enzymes normalized. I had elevated AST and ALT. The development of sensitivities to other food proteins is very common in the celiac population. Most common cross reactive foods are dairy and oats but eggs, soy and corn are also relatively common offenders. Lactose intolerance is also common in the celiac population because of damage to the SB lining.  Eggs when they are scrambled or fried give me a gut ache. But when I poach them, they do not. The steam and heat of poaching causes a hydrolysis process that alters the protein in the egg. They don't bother me in baked goods either so I assume the same process is at work. I bought a plastic poacher on Amazon to make poaching very easy. All this to say that many of the issues you describe could be caused by celiac disease. 
    • catnapt
      thank you so much for your detailed and extremely helpful reply!! I can say with absolute certainty that the less gluten containing products I've eaten over the past several years, the better I've felt.   I wasn't avoiding gluten, I was avoiding refined grains (and most processed foods) as well as anything that made me feel bad when I ate it. It's the same reason I gave up dairy and eggs- they make me feel ill.  I do have a bit of a sugar addiction lol so a lot of times I wasn't sure if it was the refined grains that I was eating - or the sugar. So from time to time I might have a cookie or something but I've learned how to make wonderful cookies and golden brownies with BEANS!! and no refined sugar - I use date paste instead. Pizza made me so ill- but I thought it was probably the cheese. I gave up pizza and haven't missed it. the one time I tried a slice I felt so bad I knew I'd never touch it again. I stopped eating wheat pasta at least 3 yrs ago- just didn't feel well after eating it. I tried chick pea pasta and a few others and discovered I like the brown rice pasta. I still don't eat a lot of pasta but it's nice for a change when I want something easy. TBH over the years I've wondered sometimes if I might be gluten intolerant but really believed it was not possible for me to have celiac disease. NOW I need to know for sure- because I'm in the middle of a long process of trying to find out why I have a high parathyroid level (NOT the thyroid- but rather the 4 glands that control the calcium balance in your body) I have had a hard time getting my vit D level up, my serum calcium has run on the low side of normal for many years... and now I am losing calcium from my bones and excreting it in my urine (some sort of renal calcium leak) Also have a high ALP since 2014. And now rapidly worsening bone density.  I still do not have a firm diagnosis. Could be secondary HPT (but secondary to what? we need to know) It could be early primary HPT. I am spilling calcium in my urine but is that caused by the high parathyroid hormone or is it the reason my PTH is high>? there are multiple feedback loops for this condition.    so I will keep eating the bread and some wheat germ that does not seem to bother me too much (it hasn't got enough gluten to use just wheat germ)    but I'm curious- if you don't have a strong reaction to a product- like me and wheat germ- does that mean it's ok to eat or is it still causing harm even if you don't have any obvious symptoms? I guess what you are saying about silent celiac makes it likely that you can have no symptoms and still have the harm... but geez! you'd think they'd come up with a way to test for this that didn't require you to consume something that makes you sick! I worry about the complications I've been reading about- different kinds of cancers etc. also wondering- are there degrees of celiac disease?  is there any correlation between symptoms and the amnt of damage to your intestines? I also need a firm diagnosis because I have an identical twin sister ... so if I have celiac, she has it too- or at least the genetic make up for having it. I did have a VERY major stress to my body in 2014-2016 time frame .. lost 50lbs in a short period of time and had severe symptoms from acute protracted withdrawal off an SSRI drug (that I'd been given an unethically high dose of, by a dr who has since lost his license)  Going off the drug was a good thing and in many ways my health improved dramatically- just losing 50lbs was helpful but I also went  off almost a dozen different medications, totally changed my diet and have been doing pretty well except for the past 3-4 yrs when the symptoms related to the parathyroid issue cropped up. It is likely that I had low vit D for some time and that caused me a lot of symptoms. The endo now tells me that low vit D can be caused by celiac disease so I need to know for sure! thank you for all that great and useful information!!! 
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