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L-glutamine/stomach Pain & Gylcemic Index

Budew

By Budew
in Coping with Celiac Disease

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Budew
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Unwisely I tried 2 things at once.

I took L-glutamine with Florajen 3 probiotics, & I increased my fats to slow digestion to keep my bloodsugar from spiking. I think the fevers are related to bloodsugar and will get a meter to check.

No fevers yesterday! But stomach pain, not nausea. Like I did a couple hundred sit ups.

Trying to decide if I should ignore the pain and take the l-glutamine?

I am also looking for a good glycemic index? One that lists many fruits and veggies. The ones I found so far focus on grains and recommend low fat.

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Mamato2boys
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Personally, I wouldn't continue taking anything that caused me stomach pain. I would consider that a sign that the supplement doesn't agree with my body for whatever reason.

If you're looking for good blood sugar control, protein is the way to go. I'm hypoglycemic myself and have been dealing with it for about 20 years now. I've found that eating protein first thing in the morning sets the stage (in a good way) for the day. I also eat protein with every major meal. Protein takes longer for the body to break down, therefore you don't get the crazy blood sugar spikes & falls. Your metabolism will do a more even, controlled burn of the energy. Protein doesn't have to come from red meat, either. I know that many people have issues with red meat. Then I balance out my meals with vegetables, and oftentimes I'll do fruit for dessert. Potatoes are pretty high on the glycemic index and should be avoided if you're sensitive. Also, I like using Stevia rather than artificial sweeteners or sugar. It's natural, has little/no glycemic impact, and is something like 500 times sweeter than sugar. It's also important to eat frequently. I generally have 3 meals and 2 snacks a day, though it's really recommended that you have 3 snacks and 3 meals.

I've also found that since going gluten-free, my hypoglycemia has improved A LOT. I would have low blood sugar episodes as many as 3 or 4 times a day. Now I can't remember the last episode I've had - and I've only been gluten-free for about two weeks or so now. I bet as you get further along, you'll feel this way too.

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Budew
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Thanks for commenting.

I get this, I am from a diabetic family.

I don't eat "starch" from the old diabetic lists.

I am vegetarian, I have some trouble with dairy. I suspect soy/corn is also a problem too.

My problem is what protien, what fats. Where do they fall on the glycemic index.

Do you have a good table of things we eat. Many are loaded with info on grains and omit products with fat.

Today due to lack of input I guessed on the enzymes. I made sure my tummy was empty 2 hours before and after the l-glutamine/probiotic. When I did eat I ate sharp cheddar first and used plenty of marg. in preperation.

So far so good. No fevers no pain, but 30mg hydrocodone.

I take 30 mg daily, support in doing this is mixed. Without it I hurt all over, enough to cry, sob. So I take it.

Is this okay? No one seems to mention being prescribed narcotics to cope.

My doc. never commits to refill. I try now and then to see what it is like to reduce and eliminate hydro. I suffer so much I could become suicidal if I knew I had to endure the pain without help.

Does this touch a cord with anyone else?

Nancym Enthusiast
Nancym
Posted

Well, the high protein vegetable based foods just aren't going to help you out if you're allergic to them. Could you soften on the vegetarian stance a bit and eat fish and eggs? If you're not getting enough B vitamins that could certainly compound your problems.

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I would recommend the books by Jennie Brand-Miller for the glycemic index. She has several great books including a list of the glycemic index of hundreds of foods - even gluten-free pasta. Can't help with the other issues other than to say trust your body and if you tried something new and got pain, stop it. If you tried two things and don't know which caused the pain I would stop them both and then add one at a time back and see what happens. Any good something is doing is not enough good to overcome whatever it is doing that is causing you pain.

Budew Rookie
Budew
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Thanks, I will get the book.

I think that blood sugar is causing some of the problems. 2 days balancing protien& fat/ carbs

and no real fevers, slight temp changes only

I decided to take the l-glutamine on a very empty stomach. Nothing 2 hours before or after....it worked no pain

I even ate a real meal for dinner, I've only been able to graze the past few weeks.

Usually after having dinner, morning brings a painful tour to and from the bathroom, sometimes hours....today 1 trip and I'm fine.

I can hardly believe this is really working!

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Judyin Philly
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I can hardly believe this is really working!

Because of a post you did ages ago..(I'd saved in leaky gut folder) i'm trying

GLUTAGENICS..1 Tsp 2xs a day with/out food on empty tummy and then eat as soon as meal ready.

i'm praying this will help as 4 days of water 'd' was like old times 16 months ago

my chiro REALLY researched getting this for me and went to seminar on leaky gut, adrenal burnout etc

it' from Metagenics.

know i can't do a link here but will scott allow web sites..i'll see if it goes.

www.metagenics.com

Thanks for the post.

going to forum to Vincent our old buddy on here as he's struggling.

put a link for him up 3 days ago ( i think) on a thread re low b/s

judy

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Budew Rookie
Budew
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Because of a post you did ages ago..(I'd saved in leaky gut folder) i'm trying

GLUTAGENICS..1 Tsp 2xs a day with/out food on empty tummy and then eat as soon as meal ready.

i'm praying this will help as 4 days of water 'd' was like old times 16 months ago

my chiro REALLY researched getting this for me and went to seminar on leaky gut, adrenal burnout etc

it' from Metagenics.

know i can't do a link here but will scott allow web sites..i'll see if it goes.

www.metagenics.com

Thanks for the post.

going to forum to Vincent our old buddy on here as he's struggling.

put a link for him up 3 days ago ( i think) on a thread re low b/s

judy

Thanks for the site. And good luck to you!

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Celena Rookie
Celena
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So far so good. No fevers no pain, but 30mg hydrocodone.

I take 30 mg daily, support in doing this is mixed. Without it I hurt all over, enough to cry, sob. So I take it.

Is this okay? No one seems to mention being prescribed narcotics to cope.

My doc. never commits to refill. I try now and then to see what it is like to reduce and eliminate hydro. I suffer so much I could become suicidal if I knew I had to endure the pain without help.

Does this touch a cord with anyone else?

OMG.....r u still livng that kind of pain? sounds so much like what my dh lived with for 3 years. he coulnt find a dr that would prescribe narcotics....which is BS...they had no concept of the intense mind-blowing pain he lived in everyday.

We tried soooo many things. we thought miracle cures were just myth.

i sent you an email about IMS....that is what worked for him. back to work w no sick days for almost 3 months now!! we both just feel like kicking up our heels and jumping for joy cause he (and we) has (have) his (our) life (lives) back now!!!!!!!!!!

good luck to you and everyone living w debilitating chronic pain. if anyone wants more info on what worked for my dh see: www.istop.org

kerrih Rookie
kerrih
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Hello,

Just wanted to share with you that I have been gluten-free for a year and I have had hypoglycemic issues. My endocrinologist says that it may be all the rice I am eating now. I eat rice noodles, rice cakes, puffed rice cereal (without malt of course). Just letting you know that rice will cause your sugar to drop suddenly and just as someone said before your entry, you need plenty of protein to balance it.

Glad you are feeling better though.

Kerri

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Celena
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I take 30 mg daily, support in doing this is mixed. Without it I hurt all over, enough to cry, sob. So I take it.

Is this okay? No one seems to mention being prescribed narcotics to cope.

My doc. never commits to refill. I try now and then to see what it is like to reduce and eliminate hydro. I suffer so much I could become suicidal if I knew I had to endure the pain without help.

Does this touch a cord with anyone else?

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