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chocolatelover Contributor
chocolatelover
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Hey all, I'm new at all this and still trying to figure it all out. I am currently trying to figure out if it's the gluten or the dairy that's giving me problems. Do they often go together? I'm still waiting for test results to see if anything comes back positive...

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tarnalberry Community Regular
tarnalberry
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Yes.

Lactose (milk-sugar) intolerance *often* accompanies celiac disease in the first months of treatment, as the enzyme to break down lactose is produced at the tips of the villi that are damaged by the gluten intolerance.

Some celiacs also have trouble with casein (milk-protein) as well, which will not go away after a few months as the intestines heal. You can test this one with a low-lactose milk product and lactaid as a challenge, outside of blood testing.

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StrongerToday
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Yes they do. I gave up dairy for a year (a very long year!), and then slowly worked it back into my diet. I can tell when I've gone overboard (gas) but now i have it almost every day.

tiffjake Enthusiast
tiffjake
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I just want to give you another point of view. I never gave up dairy when I went gluten free. I have had some constipation problems, and I wonder if that was why. But other than that, I am ok. I have read that when the "gut" heals from the gluten-damage, then people who have casien problems can handle it better, so I always thought I would be fine. And I feel ok. Just wanted to share that incase you are stressing over being "gluten-free/cf" like I was at first.

But if it bothers you, then don't have it. I just didn't feel like it bothered me.

chocolatelover Contributor
chocolatelover
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So far I haven't been very successful at staying both gluten-free and df...all the foods that I love seem to be one or the other! I am trying very hard to stay df for now and keep eating the gluten since I haven't had the full round of tests yet. I keep reading that you need to be consuming gluten for it to show up on the tests, so I am eating it and am waiting to schedule an endoscopy. The dr thinks that I have IBS, so I don't know when that will happen. Colonoscopy is this week. I was gluten and dairy free for about 2 weeks before Christmas, and felt like a new person. I can't decide if I'm feeling icky right now from eating gluten or just from the stress of it all...

BBadgero Newbie
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So far I haven't been very successful at staying both gluten-free and df...all the foods that I love seem to be one or the other! I am trying very hard to stay df for now and keep eating the gluten since I haven't had the full round of tests yet. I keep reading that you need to be consuming gluten for it to show up on the tests, so I am eating it and am waiting to schedule an endoscopy. The dr thinks that I have IBS, so I don't know when that will happen. Colonoscopy is this week. I was gluten and dairy free for about 2 weeks before Christmas, and felt like a new person. I can't decide if I'm feeling icky right now from eating gluten or just from the stress of it all...

You know, until I went gluten-free and DF (well since I am a chocolate lover too, 85% DF :rolleyes: ) I didn't ever quite feel right. I now follow strictly (again, except for the occassional chocolate or Snickers bar) a Paleolithic Diet.... it is similar to protein diets, but made more sense to me. I follow Cordain's version, but I am going to switch to Protein Power by the Edes.... I just have all the energy in the world, and except for the rare times I get CC'd by some food, or don't read the label right, I haven't been sick like I use to since early 2006!!! Amazing with these results, but it isn't easy to follow. After about a good week on it you can fend off the carbs (dairy, etc) and feel good.... Good luck!

chocolatelover Contributor
chocolatelover
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You know there are dairy-free chocolates out there! They are more expensive, but they do exist. Also, I have made several dairy-free chocolate desserts in the past few weeks that are quite delicious. Happy to share if you need more info!

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tarnalberry Community Regular
tarnalberry
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Dark chocolates are often dairy free (always check the label), and TerraCotta and TraderJoes both make milk chocolates with rice milk that are dairy and gluten free.

Drama-Queen Rookie
Drama-Queen
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Since gluten can mess up your intestine sooo much it is hard to tolerate dairy right away on the gluten free diet. However, some people seem okay with it.

On the other hand some people have problems with dairy and not gluten. (lactose intolerant, casein intolerant, or just plain allergic) So what I would do is elliminate one or the other and see what happens with your symptoms, if they improve or not. Sometimes a diary helps to keep track of symptoms you are having so that you don't have to in your head. This is how I am figuring out my allergies. I am pretty sure it is that dastardly dairy that makes me break out in hives.

Try process of elimination and see what happens. What is there to lose? Not much, just symptoms.

Jestgar Rising Star
Jestgar
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Just a comment. I was having food issues and just assumed it was dairy, since that's a likely culprit, and sometimes I'd have issues after eating cheese (but not always).

I finally determined that it's not dairy, it's garlic! It was hard for me to separate since I frequently ate them together.

So sometimes the most obvious solution isn't the solution....

mmaccartney Explorer
mmaccartney
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I gave up gluten and after about a month I ate a gluten-free cheese pizza that I made myself, and got very sick. I knew immediatly it was the cheese...gave up all dairy after that, and then had myself tested as I wasn't sure if it was lactose or casein that was my problem...unfortunatly for me it was casein so dairy's out for good...

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