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Charlieswpa Apprentice
Charlieswpa
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I've been grinding my teeth for a while now.I've been wondering if it's Celiac related?

I've been on a gluten free diet for the last 5 weeks and I'm still doing it.I was wondering if I 'am lacking a certain mineral or vitamin?

Thanks

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NoGluGirl Contributor
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I've been grinding my teeth for a while now.I've been wondering if it's Celiac related?

I've been on a gluten free diet for the last 5 weeks and I'm still doing it.I was wondering if I 'am lacking a certain mineral or vitamin?

Thanks

Dear Charlieswpa,

I heard this could be gluten related. I think I grind mine as well. I used to have good teeth. All of the sudden, the past few years or so, my teeth seem to be chipping off by the day. I have bad TMJ and my jaw is extremely misaligned. This is a big problem, because my teeth are also really crooked. I know I could have malabsorbtion issues, and lack of vitamins plays a role. I have excruciating jaw pain and headaches because of this a lot.

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

P.S. If your jaw pops and is misaligned, the dentist can get you a mouth guard called a splint.

jerseyangel Proficient
jerseyangel
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I don't know if it's Celiac related, but I have been diagnosed (by an ENT) with TMJ. I also grind my teeth at night.

I was fitted for a mouth guard by my dentist. It is small, fits perfectly, and has helped quite a bit. :)

I'm supposed to wear it most of the time, but I only use it at night. :ph34r:

Charlieswpa Apprentice
Charlieswpa
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Dear Charlieswpa,

I heard this could be gluten related. I think I grind mine as well. I used to have good teeth. All of the sudden, the past few years or so, my teeth seem to be chipping off by the day. I have bad TMJ and my jaw is extremely misaligned. This is a big problem, because my teeth are also really crooked. I know I could have malabsorbtion issues, and lack of vitamins plays a role. I have excruciating jaw pain and headaches because of this a lot.

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

P.S. If your jaw pops and is misaligned, the dentist can get you a mouth guard called a splint.

Dear NoGluGirl,

Thanks for the information.I was diagnosed with Celiac Disease 10 years ago

but wasn't staying on a gluten free diet until recently( almost 6 weeks).I hoping the longer I stay on it,it will make my grinding go away.I heard low Magnesium affects your muscles.

How long have you been on a gluten free diet? Do you ever cheat on your diet?

Thanks

NoGluGirl Contributor
NoGluGirl
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Dear NoGluGirl,

Thanks for the information.I was diagnosed with Celiac Disease 10 years ago

but wasn't staying on a gluten free diet until recently( almost 6 weeks).I hoping the longer I stay on it,it will make my grinding go away.I heard low Magnesium affects your muscles.

How long have you been on a gluten free diet? Do you ever cheat on your diet?

Thanks

Dear Charlieswpa,

You are welcome for the info! I have been gluten free since August of last year, so it has been six months! I cannot cheat, because I have a violent reaction to gluten. I get really nauseated, break out in a sweat, get diarrhea, start shaking, sometimes my hands go numb, and if I am lucky, swallow a Promethazine before dry heaves hit that make me feel like my insides are emploding. Cheating is NOT tempting! Unfortunately, my parents often gluten me because they are not gluten free.

At least, I was doing great for the first two months or so, but I saw my doctor recently who said Celiacs cannot tolerate dairy a lot either, so I am going to have to give that up. I bet she is right! I did not eat dairy the first couple of months at all. Casein intolerance is a common problem with Celiac.

As far as Magnesium goes, it does affect the muscles. You are right. It can cause muscle pain and jerking. I have twitches, but could have Lyme disease even. Until I can afford testing, I won't know much of anything about that. Though I miss a lot of foods I used to eat, I must say I view gluten as poison. I have rewired my brain to think of Cheez - Its and other things I no longer can eat as Raid. That way, I just go right past it and find something I am allowed! It makes it automatic. I do suffer from food lust, though. I had a dream the other night about spaghetti and huge meatballs with ragu sauce! It was wonderful! The first time I ate spaghetti where it could not make me fat or sick! LOL!

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

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Ursa Major
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I used to clench my teeth so badly that I would wake up in the morning with jaw pain. I also had severe TMJ and misaligned jaws, until I had braces from the ages of 44 to 47. After that I had a mouthguard/retainer. I still have it, but don't really need it now, as I stopped clenching my teeth. It took over a year on the gluten-free diet before I stopped clenching my teeth, though.

I also take vitamins and minerals, as well as desiccated adrenal and desiccated thyroid (because of adrenal fatigue and hypothyroidism, probably related to undiagnosed celiac disease for most of my life). After I started taking those, the clenching started getting better.

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I've been grinding my teeth for a while now.I've been wondering if it's Celiac related?

I've been on a gluten free diet for the last 5 weeks and I'm still doing it.I was wondering if I 'am lacking a certain mineral or vitamin?

Thanks

Does anyone know why there might be a connection between teeth grinding and celiac disease?? - my coeliac son ground down some of his molars so bad he had to have crowns on them :unsure:

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I think indirectly it is related to celiacs, yet it's the vitamin and mineral deficiencies that cause it and/or TMJ. It's not specific to celiac disease. Celiac disease opens the door for all these other ailments to walk in. I do not grind my teeth, but I do clench my jaw. Used to be only at night, now I catch myself doing it during the day, especially when I am very stressed out.

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Dear Charlieswpa,

You are welcome for the info! I have been gluten free since August of last year, so it has been six months! I cannot cheat, because I have a violent reaction to gluten. I get really nauseated, break out in a sweat, get diarrhea, start shaking, sometimes my hands go numb, and if I am lucky, swallow a Promethazine before dry heaves hit that make me feel like my insides are emploding. Cheating is NOT tempting! Unfortunately, my parents often gluten me because they are not gluten free.

At least, I was doing great for the first two months or so, but I saw my doctor recently who said Celiacs cannot tolerate dairy a lot either, so I am going to have to give that up. I bet she is right! I did not eat dairy the first couple of months at all. Casein intolerance is a common problem with Celiac.

As far as Magnesium goes, it does affect the muscles. You are right. It can cause muscle pain and jerking. I have twitches, but could have Lyme disease even. Until I can afford testing, I won't know much of anything about that. Though I miss a lot of foods I used to eat, I must say I view gluten as poison. I have rewired my brain to think of Cheez - Its and other things I no longer can eat as Raid. That way, I just go right past it and find something I am allowed! It makes it automatic. I do suffer from food lust, though. I had a dream the other night about spaghetti and huge meatballs with ragu sauce! It was wonderful! The first time I ate spaghetti where it could not make me fat or sick! LOL!

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

Hi NoGluGirl,

When I first got the symptoms of Celiac disease I was very sick like you especially

when I ate dairy.I don't drink milk anymore but still use butter and cheese.The disease didn't really bother me that much lately except being anemic,dry skinned and occasionally diarrhea with clay colored stools.But I know it was doing damage within.I always taken a multi vitamin Centrum which I beleived it has helped me.I'am going to go off this diet in a few months and get retested again to be 100% sure that I have it.Years ago after all the testing I went throught the doctor wasn't a 100% sure

I have Celiac disease.

You can still have your spaghetti and meatballs. There is spaghetti made out of rice that you can use and you can made your own sauce to besure it's gluten free.I feel sorry for you being so young having to go through this.Someday there will be a cure for this or there will be a gluten free wheat.

A another thing is I bought some Tom Sawyer's all purpose gluten free flour on it's web site and I make my own breads,cookies and cakes.You know what's funny? I owned a pizza shop for 5 years.

Have a great Sunday!

Charlie

NoGluGirl Contributor
NoGluGirl
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Hi NoGluGirl,

When I first got the symptoms of Celiac disease I was very sick like you especially

when I ate dairy.I don't drink milk anymore but still use butter and cheese.The disease didn't really bother me that much lately except being anemic,dry skinned and occasionally diarrhea with clay colored stools.But I know it was doing damage within.I always taken a multi vitamin Centrum which I beleived it has helped me.I'am going to go off this diet in a few months and get retested again to be 100% sure that I have it.Years ago after all the testing I went throught the doctor wasn't a 100% sure

I have Celiac disease.

You can still have your spaghetti and meatballs. There is spaghetti made out of rice that you can use and you can made your own sauce to besure it's gluten free.I feel sorry for you being so young having to go through this.Someday there will be a cure for this or there will be a gluten free wheat.

A another thing is I bought some Tom Sawyer's all purpose gluten free flour on it's web site and I make my own breads,cookies and cakes.You know what's funny? I owned a pizza shop for 5 years.

Have a great Sunday!

Charlie

Dear Charlie,

I have some rice noodles I got from the Chinese Market. They are always great. Really, this is the best place to get sweet rice and regular rice flours too. It is much cheaper! I only pay $1 or a little more for what you would have go pay much more for at the healthfood store. Merchants are great about helping you read ingredient labels if you need them to. Normally, they have them in English too, now.

I was tested for Celiac in 2000 and tested negative for antibodies. However, my doctor believes I am Celiac. She has had a handful of patients like me who improved after abandoning gluten. She does not rely too heavily on the testing like many other doctors do. She takes a more common sense approach. I think my biopsy either showed something and they missed it back in 2001,(they missed my gallbladder) or I was just too young to show the damage yet. I am not sure which. You know how you owned a pizza place? I used to work at Taco Bell for a short while as a teen! How is that for irony?

Getting back to bruxism, I have clenched my jaw something awful. Ursa Major mentioned this. DarlinDeb has the same difficulties I do. I need to start taking vitamins. I was anemic at one time, and even now, feel rundown if I do not eat meat. Thanks for the info on the all purpose gluten free flours. I am going to check it out. Also, I have been to the Chocolate Emporium that makes casein free, gluten free cake mixes and candies. Their mixes are great! Go to www.choclat.com to see. They even have chocolate perfume!

Dear NikkiUK,

The connection with Celiac and bruxism is likely the vitamin deficiencies. So many of us have malabsorbtion issues. We cannot get what we need out of food due to the nutrients not being taken in. Muscle tremors can manifest from Magnesium deficiencies, as can heart palpitations. Calcium deficiencies can cause those symptoms too. I know I need to begin taking at least a B-Vitamin complex and magnesium. I want to take a multivitamin, but do not know of any that do not have iron (it upsets my stomach) and are gluten free.

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

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Dear Charlie,

I have some rice noodles I got from the Chinese Market. They are always great. Really, this is the best place to get sweet rice and regular rice flours too. It is much cheaper! I only pay $1 or a little more for what you would have go pay much more for at the healthfood store. Merchants are great about helping you read ingredient labels if you need them to. Normally, they have them in English too, now.

I was tested for Celiac in 2000 and tested negative for antibodies. However, my doctor believes I am Celiac. She has had a handful of patients like me who improved after abandoning gluten. She does not rely too heavily on the testing like many other doctors do. She takes a more common sense approach. I think my biopsy either showed something and they missed it back in 2001,(they missed my gallbladder) or I was just too young to show the damage yet. I am not sure which.

Getting back to bruxism, I have clenched my jaw something awful. Ursa Major mentioned this. DarlinDeb has the same difficulties I do. I need to start taking vitamins. I was anemic at one time, and even now, feel rundown if I do not eat meat. Thanks for the info on the all purpose gluten free flours. I am going to check it out. Also, I have been to the Chocolate Emporium that makes casein free, gluten free cake mixes and candies. Their mixes are great! Go to www.choclat.com to see. They even have chocolate perfume!

Dear NikkiUK,

The connection with Celiac and bruxism is likely the vitamin deficiencies. So many of us have malabsorbtion issues. We cannot get what we need out of food due to the nutrients not being taken in. Muscle tremors can manifest from Magnesium deficiencies, as can heart palpitations. Calcium deficiencies can cause those symptoms too. I know I need to begin taking at least a B-Vitamin complex and magnesium. I want to take a multivitamin, but do not know of any that do not have iron (it upsets my stomach) and are gluten free.

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

noglugirl

I just got an multivatiamin from a health food store that has no iron in them, they are called daily total one with maxi sorb, made my country life. I havent taken them yet tho. Maybe check them out, they are iron free.

paula

nikki-uk Enthusiast
nikki-uk
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Dear NikkiUK,

The connection with Celiac and bruxism is likely the vitamin deficiencies. So many of us have malabsorbtion issues. We cannot get what we need out of food due to the nutrients not being taken in. Muscle tremors can manifest from Magnesium deficiencies, as can heart palpitations. Calcium deficiencies can cause those symptoms too. I know I need to begin taking at least a B-Vitamin complex and magnesium. I want to take a multivitamin, but do not know of any that do not have iron (it upsets my stomach) and are gluten free.

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

Ok thanks NoGluGirl!!

Interesting theory! I hope that the longer my son is gluten-free the less likely he is to grind - and if his weight gain is anything to go by in the 5 months he's been gluten-free I'd say he's definitely absorbing better :)

January Flower Rookie
January Flower
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I'm a dentist, and their are actually relations to teeth grinding and celiac diease. I would encourage you to see your dentist and have a night appliance made. I recommend them to my patients who have symptoms with their teeth grinding, i have never had any of my patients not like the appliances i've made. They help alot!

NoGluGirl Contributor
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I'm a dentist, and their are actually relations to teeth grinding and celiac diease. I would encourage you to see your dentist and have a night appliance made. I recommend them to my patients who have symptoms with their teeth grinding, i have never had any of my patients not like the appliances i've made. They help alot!

Dear January Flower,

Thanks for the input! I know getting one would help me a lot. Clenching your jaw is a real painful thing. The dentist I saw a while back had me bite down to check my bite, and every time he said "Ouch!" I am thinking "How do you think I feel?" LOL! It turns out, my jaw is so badly misaligned, that the pad that connects your jaw up near your ear is actually scraping bone against bone on me! I bite my jaw a lot as well.

Dear NikkiUK,

Thank you for the compliments! It is complicated at times. Nutrients are something that are essential for everything. We often neglect to think about them. This never is good.

Dear Paula,

Thanks for the info on vitamins. I will see if our health food store has those. I need something. I do not know if I have malabsorption issues or not. I think I might. Fats do not set well because of my gallbladder being out.

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

Charlieswpa Apprentice
Charlieswpa
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I'm a dentist, and their are actually relations to teeth grinding and celiac diease. I would encourage you to see your dentist and have a night appliance made. I recommend them to my patients who have symptoms with their teeth grinding, i have never had any of my patients not like the appliances i've made. They help alot!

Thanks for replying to this web site !

I was wondering since your a dentist did your teachers( professors) tell you anything about Celiac disease and what it does to the enamel of the tooth? I'm sure if this could be spotted in children

then this could help parents get their children evaluated.I had this when I was a kid but Celiac disease wasn't known back then.Maybe you could check this with your patients in the future.

Thanks

January Flower Rookie
January Flower
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The truth is Celiac diease affects so many people differently that its hard to nail down direct links to the diease and dentistry. We do know that malabsorption is a huge factor in causing dental enamel abnormalities, as well as in people with vitamen Deficiencies.

People with malformed enamel can be also caused by heredity traits, and if you were sick say with a fever for example when you were around the age your teeth buds were forming you can also have a yellowish ring around the base of your back molars. Certain medications can also cause defects in emamel, or medications your mother took with pregnant with you.

The main thing is take care of your teeth, especially having Celiac its very true in saying oral health is overall health!

NoGluGirl Contributor
NoGluGirl
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The truth is Celiac diease affects so many people differently that its hard to nail down direct links to the diease and dentistry. We do know that malabsorption is a huge factor in causing dental enamel abnormalities, as well as in people with vitamen Deficiencies.

People with malformed enamel can be also caused by heredity traits, and if you were sick say with a fever for example when you were around the age your teeth buds were forming you can also have a yellowish ring around the base of your back molars. Certain medications can also cause defects in emamel, or medications your mother took with pregnant with you.

The main thing is take care of your teeth, especially having Celiac its very true in saying oral health is overall health!

Dear January Flower,

I have a question about bad teeth. I had good teeth up until several years ago. All of the sudden, my teeth keep breaking off. Is it possible I am grinding them down? Or, is it the Celiac disease? I never had a cavity until a few years ago. Could it be a product of malabsorption? I am so scared I will lose my teeth!

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

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teethman8318 Newbie
teethman8318
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I've been grinding my teeth for a while now.I've been wondering if it's Celiac related?

I've been on a gluten free diet for the last 5 weeks and I'm still doing it.I was wondering if I 'am lacking a certain mineral or vitamin?

Thanks

Hi Charlieswpa,

Have you used a mouth guard for grinding your teeth? I am not sure if it is directly related to Celiac, but I would recommend checking out mouth guards online. I just purchased a mouth guard from the company, TotalGard online. My grinding (bruxism) has stopped and I feel great.

- Chris

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I never knew that TMJ was connected to celiac. I got diagnosed with TMJ 9 years ago. The mouth guards do not help. They made things worse for me. The only thing that has helped is muscle relaxers. I have also done accupunture for it and that helped also.

I just read a book about TMJ and it said to keep cotton in your mouth during the day so you don't clench your teeth. Don't do it at night. It is a choking hazard. The book also said to alternate cold and heat on the jaw muscles.

I really don't think anything helps TMJ. It is just something I have had to live with.

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SabrinaESQ Newbie
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I never knew that TMJ was connected to celiac. I got diagnosed with TMJ 9 years ago. The mouth guards do not help. They made things worse for me. The only thing that has helped is muscle relaxers. I have also done accupunture for it and that helped also.

I just read a book about TMJ and it said to keep cotton in your mouth during the day so you don't clench your teeth. Don't do it at night. It is a choking hazard. The book also said to alternate cold and heat on the jaw muscles.

I really don't think anything helps TMJ. It is just something I have had to live with.

This is me exactly. I was just diagnosed Celiac and I have been grinding my teeth for about 6 years. It has been getting worse. For most of that time I have had a nightguard, and I use that religiously. But still, I grind all night loudly enough to wake my husband, and then many days I suffer from terrible tension headaches that turn into migraines. Migraine medication helps at that point, but NOTHING has helped the grinding. I was just prescribed muscle relaxants, which I pray will help me. This is all on top of terrible joint pain caused by the Celiac.

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supernova777 Newbie
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This is me exactly. I was just diagnosed Celiac and I have been grinding my teeth for about 6 years. It has been getting worse. For most of that time I have had a nightguard, and I use that religiously. But still, I grind all night loudly enough to wake my husband, and then many days I suffer from terrible tension headaches that turn into migraines. Migraine medication helps at that point, but NOTHING has helped the grinding. I was just prescribed muscle relaxants, which I pray will help me. This is all on top of terrible joint pain caused by the Celiac.

anyone in this thread drink coffee??

im also thinking that other vasoconstrictors may have alot to do with the whole teeth grinding thing i have not had a problem with this for the last few months but recently after a bad run in with some gluten infected belgian chocolates

ive had mouth probs all week and my teeth are sore and the inside of my mouth is liek cotton mouth, very tender. no canker sores thank god (yet anyway) but its back to being a pain.. when i havent had this happen for some time...

then again i havent been glutened in some time either... been doing really well. avoiding bad foods... until xmas time..

Vasoconstrictors:

Amphetamines

antihistamines

Cocaine

LSD

LSA

Methylphenidate

Oxymetazoline

Phenylephrine

Pseudoephedrine

Stimulants

Caffeine

Tetrahydrozoline hydrochloride (in eye drops)

Psilocybin

nicotine is also a vasoconstrictor..

as are most decongestants + antihistamines..

anyone here in this thread using decongestants?? they are probably causing the teeth grinding..thats what im

putting 2+2 together to figure out from my own research...

sudafed? benedryl? ephedrine? anyone?

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      @lizzie42, You're being a good mom, seeking answers for your son.  Cheers! Subclinical thiamine deficiency commonly occurs with anemia.  An outright Thiamine deficiency can be precipitated by the consumption of a high carbohydrate meal.   Symptoms of Thiamine deficiency include feeling shakey or wobbly in the legs, muscle weakness or cramps, as well as aggression and irritability, confusion, mood swings and behavior changes.  Thiamine is essential to the production of neurotransmitters like serotonin and dopamine which keep us calm and rational.   @Jsingh, histamine intolerance is also a symptom of Thiamine deficiency.  Thiamine is needed to prevent mast cells from releasing histamine at the slightest provocation as is seen in histamine intolerance.  Thiamine and the other B vitamins and Vitamin C are needed to clear histamine from the body.  Without sufficient thiamine and other B vitamins to clear it, the histamine builds up.  High histamine levels can change behavior, too.  High histamine levels are found in the brains of patients with schizophrenia.  Thiamine deficiency can also cause extreme hunger or conversely anorexia.   High carbohydrate meals can precipitate thiamine deficiency because additional thiamine is required to process carbohydrates for the body to use as fuel.  The more carbohydrates one eats daily, the more one needs additional thiamine above the RDA.  Thiamine is water soluble, safe and nontoxic even in high doses. Keep in mind that gluten-free processed foods like cookies and such are not required to be fortified and enriched with vitamins and minerals like their gluten containing counterparts are.  Limit processed gluten-free foods.  They are often full of empty calories and unhealthy saturated fats and additives, and are high in histamine or histamine release triggers.  It's time you bought your own vitamins to supplement what is not being absorbed due to malabsorption of Celiac disease.  Benfotiamine is a form of Thiamine that has been shown to improve intestinal health as well as brain function. Do talk to your doctors and dieticians about supplementing with the essential vitamins and minerals while your children are growing up gluten free.  Serve nutritionally dense foods.  Meats and liver are great sources of B vitamins and minerals. Hope this helps!  Keep us posted on your progress!
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