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How Much Is Gluten-free?


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kurai Newbie

Hi,

I had been having GI problems for a while, even went to a GI specialist, where he diagnosed me with motility disorder and prescribed me maximum dosage of the medicine Dicetel. A month later, my problems just seemed to skyrocket. I was in the bathroom all the time and I could not get into contact with my GI specialist.

I went to a homeopath (to try detox) and she suggested to get off of gluten and dairy products. Once I started that, my problems got a lot better. However, since I was never tested, I now wonder what my problem really is.

I did a pinprick allergy test, and though I'm allergic to quite a few things (all the nature ones ie. pollens, ragweed, dust, tobacco smoke etc.. , yeast, eggs, melons, bananas, chocolate just to name a few) I did not test positive for wheat or dairy products. Although I know that the pinprick test only tests for immediate reactions and not delayed or long term ones, I wonder if I really am gluten intolerant or I'm reacting to some other ingredient in my food.

I'm thinking of doing the celiac panel test but I read somewhere that the test isn't accurate if you're on a gluten-free diet. I've been pretty gluten free except I eat Ezekiel 4:9


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Basically, you need to be eating gluten (I believe the equivalent of 2 slices of gluten bread) for several weeks, ( I was told 6 weeks) before taking the test. If you have been gluten free the tests will likely be negative. It's tough ... if a "papered" diagnosis is not really important, I would just consider myself Celiac and stay gluten free.

It really is a personal decision and you need to really think about it.

Good Luck!

kurai Newbie

Thanks for the info!

Hmm... Do you think the Ezekiel 4:9

Guhlia Rising Star
Thanks for the info!

Hmm... Do you think the Ezekiel 4:9

RiceGuy Collaborator

Well, though you might certainly be gluten intolerant, you did mention a yeast allergy. If I'm not mistaken, soy sauce is a fermented product, and if the bread or anything else you eat has yeast then it could be a contributing factor.

I found yeasts and sugars to be a problem quite awhile before I knew anything about gluten, but now I know it was related, with gluten being the cause of the other sensitivities. I stopped going to doctors before any of this though, as they had only made my problems worse, so I can't recommend anything with regard to "official" diagnosis.

Nancym Enthusiast
Thanks for the info!

Hmm... Do you think the Ezekiel 4:9

kurai Newbie
Well, though you might certainly be gluten intolerant, you did mention a yeast allergy. If I'm not mistaken, soy sauce is a fermented product, and if the bread or anything else you eat has yeast then it could be a contributing factor.

I found yeasts and sugars to be a problem quite awhile before I knew anything about gluten, but now I know it was related, with gluten being the cause of the other sensitivities. I stopped going to doctors before any of this though, as they had only made my problems worse, so I can't recommend anything with regard to "official" diagnosis.

Yes, you're right, soy sauce is fermented. I just wasn't too sure how strictly I should eliminate my allergy foods b/c 1) it's only a pinprick test and 2) when I asked, my allergy specialist said to just cut down, and not eliminate all the things I tested positive for completely from my diet.

lol, I agree with the doctors thing. Most haven't helped me at all, or made my symptoms worse. Oddly enough, I found my homeopath knew and helped me the most.


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kurai Newbie
What are the sprouted grains? It depends on whether they're gluten free grains or not.

Well, the ingredients on the bag say "Organic sprouted whole grain wheat, filtered water, organic sprouted whole grain barley, organic sprouted whole grain millet, Organic malted barley, organic sprouted whole lentils, organic sprouted whole soybeans, organic sprouted whole grain spelt, fresh yeast, sea salt. This unique bread is made from freshly sprouted live grains and contains absolutely no flour. "

I've been eating this bread b/c I've been told and I've read that "gluten breaks down during germination and the bulk of the gluten naturally contained in wheat breads breaks

down in sprouted breads." And thus people with wheat or gluten allergies are able to eat sprouted grain breads.

Lisa Mentor
Well, the ingredients on the bag say "Organic sprouted whole grain wheat, filtered water, organic sprouted whole grain barley, organic sprouted whole grain millet, Organic malted barley, organic sprouted whole lentils, organic sprouted whole soybeans, organic sprouted whole grain spelt, fresh yeast, sea salt. This unique bread is made from freshly sprouted live grains and contains absolutely no flour. "

I've been eating this bread b/c I've been told and I've read that "gluten breaks down during germination and the bulk of the gluten naturally contained in wheat breads breaks

down in sprouted breads." And thus people with wheat or gluten allergies are able to eat sprouted grain breads.

Not this chick. ;)

Viola 1 Rookie
Not this chick. ;)

I agree, I'm not eating them either! :o

Michi8 Contributor
Well, the ingredients on the bag say "Organic sprouted whole grain wheat, filtered water, organic sprouted whole grain barley, organic sprouted whole grain millet, Organic malted barley, organic sprouted whole lentils, organic sprouted whole soybeans, organic sprouted whole grain spelt, fresh yeast, sea salt. This unique bread is made from freshly sprouted live grains and contains absolutely no flour. "

I've been eating this bread b/c I've been told and I've read that "gluten breaks down during germination and the bulk of the gluten naturally contained in wheat breads breaks

down in sprouted breads." And thus people with wheat or gluten allergies are able to eat sprouted grain breads.

Ezekiel 4:9 bread is not gluten free. However, if you go to the company's website: Open Original Shared Link They do have a list of products that they make which are gluten free.

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