Jump to content

  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):

    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Kefir Lovers/ Is Storebought Okay?

oceangirl

Recommended Posts

oceangirl Collaborator
oceangirl
Posted

Hi all!

I'm thinking of trying some kefir. Is it necessary to make your own? I found some that says "gluten-free". I'm SO nervous to try anything new but I'm thinking I might be ready to try some dairy. Any suggestions or info is greatly appreciated. I've been gluten, soy, dairy, corn, legume and nightshade-lite for about 10 months. I am thinking of becoming a plant and getting nutrients from the sun... and I'm losing it.....

Thank you!

lisa

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


oceangirl Collaborator
oceangirl
Posted
  • Author
Hi all!

I'm thinking of trying some kefir. Is it necessary to make your own? I found some that says "gluten-free". I'm SO nervous to try anything new but I'm thinking I might be ready to try some dairy. Any suggestions or info is greatly appreciated. I've been gluten, soy, dairy, corn, legume and nightshade-lite for about 10 months. I am thinking of becoming a plant and getting nutrients from the sun... and I'm losing it.....

Thank you!

lisa

To clarify: Gluten, soy, corn, legume and dairy FREE and nightshade-lite. In case that wasn't clear.

lisa

Lisa Mentor
Lisa
Posted

I am new to this kefir, and interested in your responses.

Nancym Enthusiast
Nancym
Posted

Well there's dairy in kefir unless you make your own from coconut milk, like I do. :) I've heard the store bought kefir is inferior because they use a culture that doesn't include the same kinds or huge number of bacteria. But I suppose it is better than nothing.

I usually alternate between goat milk kefir and coconut milk kefir, hoping that my grains (it's what they call the culture, there isn't any actual grain in it) stay true.

Helena Contributor
Helena
Posted

Kefir is probably my favourite food! Tastes great with fruit/maple syrup. I've only seen kefir made with cow's (as opposed to goat's) milk in stores.

I buy this kind: Open Original Shared Link . . . I like the kefir made from non-homogenized whole milk. Seriously, it is way better than ice cream.

When the health food store is out of pinehedge kefir, I buy:

Open Original Shared Link

There is a lot of info. about kefir on this site.

oceangirl Collaborator
oceangirl
Posted
  • Author
Kefir is probably my favourite food! Tastes great with fruit/maple syrup. I've only seen kefir made with cow's (as opposed to goat's) milk in stores.

I buy this kind: Open Original Shared Link . . . I like the kefir made from non-homogenized whole milk. Seriously, it is way better than ice cream.

When the health food store is out of pinehedge kefir, I buy:

Open Original Shared Link

There is a lot of info. about kefir on this site.

Thank you all very much! I will try to find a coconut milk recipe and try Helena's brands. That is, if my body doesn't rebel.

Thanks!

lisa

TinkerbellSwt Collaborator
TinkerbellSwt
Posted

I just bought Kefir for the first time from Whole Foods, it was like a thick yogurt, but you could drink it. I am not sure if this is what you all are talking about. The one I bought was strawberry flavored and lots of probiotics in it which is what made me try it. Then of course, my dairy issue started, so I havent had anymore than a small taste anyway.. I wasnt crazy about it.. how do you make your own?

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


JNBunnie1 Community Regular
JNBunnie1
Posted

Hi oceangirl, at most health food stores you can find a kefir starter. I would suggest you try it first with RAW goat's milk procured from a local farm. It's expensive, but much less likely to piss off your system. Only do this if you don't have a compromised immune system though, by which I mean AIDs or recent chemotherapy or anything of the sort. Raw dairy produced with modern milking techniques is only safe for healthy adults, not sick ones. Goat's milk is more nutritious as well. I'd ask the farmer if it's grass fed too.

Felidae Enthusiast
Felidae
Posted
Kefir is probably my favourite food! Tastes great with fruit/maple syrup. I've only seen kefir made with cow's (as opposed to goat's) milk in stores.

I buy this kind: Open Original Shared Link . . . I like the kefir made from non-homogenized whole milk. Seriously, it is way better than ice cream.

When the health food store is out of pinehedge kefir, I buy:

Open Original Shared Link

There is a lot of info. about kefir on this site.

Thanks for posting this. I've been wanting to try Liberty brand Kefir for a long time. I'm always paranoid about trying new brands because of my gluten fear! LOL

oceangirl Collaborator
oceangirl
Posted
  • Author
Thanks for posting this. I've been wanting to try Liberty brand Kefir for a long time. I'm always paranoid about trying new brands because of my gluten fear! LOL

Thank you for that tip, JNBunnie! I'm on my way to my local health food store now. And, yes, I am PARANOID about "pissing off" my system; it seems to be angry a lot! Thank you everyone!

lisa

Nancym Enthusiast
Nancym
Posted
Thank you all very much! I will try to find a coconut milk recipe and try Helena's brands. That is, if my body doesn't rebel.

Thanks!

lisa

I don't think there's any recipes out there. I just made it myself by using coconut milk instead of dairy milk. Seems to work! There's a kefir site out there that has incredible amounts of info about making your own. Just google "Dom's kefir" and you should find it.

CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
Posted

I buy plain store bought kefir. Flavored kefirs have added sugar ... you can add your own fruit, vanilla, or maple syrup.

Here's an article I found. Open Original Shared Link

Here's another article I saw that says that if your digestive tract is not in good shape it's better to stick with yogurt because of the yeast in kefir. Open Original Shared Link

oceangirl Collaborator
oceangirl
Posted
  • Author
I buy plain store bought kefir. Flavored kefirs have added sugar ... you can add your own fruit, vanilla, or maple syrup.

Here's an article I found. Open Original Shared Link

Here's another article I saw that says that if your digestive tract is not in good shape it's better to stick with yogurt because of the yeast in kefir. Open Original Shared Link

Thank you Nancy and Carla, too. I've had three GREAT days (not eating a lot, but, hey...) so I'm reluctant to stick something new in- but we're on vacation from High school, so this is the week to do it, eh?

Thanks!

lisa

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):



    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):



  • Recent Activity

    1. lizzie42
      - lizzie42 replied to lizzie42's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      3

      Son's legs shaking

      Thank you! That's helpful. My kids eat very little processed food. Tons of fruit, vegetables, cheese, eggs and occasional red meat. We do a lot of rice and bean bowls, stir fry, etc. Do you think with all the fruits and vegetables they need a vitamin supplement? I feel like their diet is pretty healthy and balanced with very limited processed food....
    2. Scott Adams
      - Scott Adams replied to Russ H's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      1

      Anti-endomysial Antibody (EMA) Testing

      That is interesting, and it's the first time I heard about the umbilical cord beings used for that test. Thanks for sharing!
    3. knitty kitty
      - knitty kitty replied to lizzie42's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      3

      Son's legs shaking

      @lizzie42, You're being a good mom, seeking answers for your son. Cheers! Subclinical thiamine deficiency commonly occurs with anemia. An outright Thiamine deficiency can be precipitated by the consumption of a high carbohydrate meal. Symptoms of Thiamine deficiency include feeling shakey or wobbly in the legs, muscle weakness or cramps...
    4. Scott Adams
      - Scott Adams replied to Paulaannefthimiou's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      2

      Bob red mill gluten free oats

      Oats naturally contain a protein called avenin, which is similar to the gluten proteins found in wheat, barley, and rye. While avenin is generally considered safe for most people with celiac disease, some individuals, around 5-10% of celiacs, may also have sensitivity to avenin, leading to symptoms similar to gluten exposure. You may fall into this...
    5. knitty kitty
      - knitty kitty replied to SamAlvi's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      6

      High TTG-IgG and Normal TTG-IgA

      @SamAlvi, It's common with anemia to have a lower tTg IgA antibodies than DGP IgG ones, but your high DGP IgG scores still point to Celiac disease. Since a gluten challenge would pose further health damage, you may want to ask for a DNA test to see if you have any of the commonly known genes for Celiac disease. Though having the genes for Celiac...
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,869
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748
    MaryannHall
    Newest Member
    MaryannHall
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • lizzie42
      Son's legs shaking

      By lizzie42 · Posted

      Thank you! That's helpful. My kids eat very little processed food. Tons of fruit, vegetables, cheese, eggs and occasional red meat. We do a lot of rice and bean bowls, stir fry, etc.  Do you think with all the fruits and vegetables they need a vitamin supplement? I feel like their diet is pretty healthy and balanced with very limited processed food. The only processed food they eat regularly is a bowl of Cheerios here and there.  Could shaking legs be a symptom of just a one-time gluten exposure? I guess there's no way to know for sure if they're getting absolutely zero exposure because they do go to school a couple times a week. We do homeschool but my son does a shared school 2x a week and my daughter does a morning Pre-K 3 x a week.  At home our entire house is strictly gluten free and it is extremely rare for us to eat out. If we eat at someone else's house I usually just bring their food. When we have play dates we bring all the snacks, etc. I try to be really careful since they're still growing. They also, of course, catch kids viruses all the time so I  want to make sure I know whether they're just sick or they've had gluten. It can be pretty confusing when they're pretty young to even be explaining their symptoms! 
    • Scott Adams
      Anti-endomysial Antibody (EMA) Testing

      By Scott Adams · Posted

      That is interesting, and it's the first time I heard about the umbilical cord beings used for that test. Thanks for sharing!
    • knitty kitty
      Son's legs shaking

      By knitty kitty · Posted

      @lizzie42, You're being a good mom, seeking answers for your son.  Cheers! Subclinical thiamine deficiency commonly occurs with anemia.  An outright Thiamine deficiency can be precipitated by the consumption of a high carbohydrate meal.   Symptoms of Thiamine deficiency include feeling shakey or wobbly in the legs, muscle weakness or cramps, as well as aggression and irritability, confusion, mood swings and behavior changes.  Thiamine is essential to the production of neurotransmitters like serotonin and dopamine which keep us calm and rational.   @Jsingh, histamine intolerance is also a symptom of Thiamine deficiency.  Thiamine is needed to prevent mast cells from releasing histamine at the slightest provocation as is seen in histamine intolerance.  Thiamine and the other B vitamins and Vitamin C are needed to clear histamine from the body.  Without sufficient thiamine and other B vitamins to clear it, the histamine builds up.  High histamine levels can change behavior, too.  High histamine levels are found in the brains of patients with schizophrenia.  Thiamine deficiency can also cause extreme hunger or conversely anorexia.   High carbohydrate meals can precipitate thiamine deficiency because additional thiamine is required to process carbohydrates for the body to use as fuel.  The more carbohydrates one eats daily, the more one needs additional thiamine above the RDA.  Thiamine is water soluble, safe and nontoxic even in high doses. Keep in mind that gluten-free processed foods like cookies and such are not required to be fortified and enriched with vitamins and minerals like their gluten containing counterparts are.  Limit processed gluten-free foods.  They are often full of empty calories and unhealthy saturated fats and additives, and are high in histamine or histamine release triggers.  It's time you bought your own vitamins to supplement what is not being absorbed due to malabsorption of Celiac disease.  Benfotiamine is a form of Thiamine that has been shown to improve intestinal health as well as brain function. Do talk to your doctors and dieticians about supplementing with the essential vitamins and minerals while your children are growing up gluten free.  Serve nutritionally dense foods.  Meats and liver are great sources of B vitamins and minerals. Hope this helps!  Keep us posted on your progress!
    • Scott Adams
      Bob red mill gluten free oats

      By Scott Adams · Posted

      Oats naturally contain a protein called avenin, which is similar to the gluten proteins found in wheat, barley, and rye. While avenin is generally considered safe for most people with celiac disease, some individuals, around 5-10% of celiacs, may also have sensitivity to avenin, leading to symptoms similar to gluten exposure. You may fall into this category, and eliminating them is the best way to figure this out. Some people substitute gluten-free quinoa flakes for oats if they want a hot cereal substitute. If you are interested in summaries of scientific publications on the topic of oats and celiac disease, we have an entire category dedicated to it which is here: https://www.celiac.com/celiac-disease/oats-and-celiac-disease-are-they-gluten-free/   
    • knitty kitty
      High TTG-IgG and Normal TTG-IgA

      By knitty kitty · Posted

      @SamAlvi, It's common with anemia to have a lower tTg IgA antibodies than DGP IgG ones, but your high DGP IgG scores still point to Celiac disease.   Since a gluten challenge would pose further health damage, you may want to ask for a DNA test to see if you have any of the commonly known genes for Celiac disease.  Though having the genes for Celiac is not diagnostic in and of itself, taken with the antibody tests, the anemia and your reaction to gluten, it may be a confirmation you have Celiac disease.   Do discuss Gastrointestinal Beriberi with your doctors.  In Celiac disease, Gastrointestinal Beriberi is frequently overlooked by doctors.  The digestive system can be affected by localized Thiamine deficiency which causes symptoms consistent with yours.  Correction of nutritional deficiencies quickly is beneficial.  Benfotiamine, a form of thiamine, helps improve intestinal health.  All eight B vitamins, including Thiamine (Benfotiamine), should be supplemented because they all work together.   The B vitamins are needed in addition to iron to correct anemia.   Hope this helps!  Keep us posted on your progress!
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.