Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

It Can Always Be Worse


henny

Recommended Posts

henny Explorer

I have had a few drama-queen moments of self-pity over the past few months with my illness and then adjusting to the gluten-free lifestyle.

Today I sit before you, ashamed and devastated.

One of my best friends came down with Guillain-Barre Syndrome last week.

A week later and he is completely paralyzed and cannot feel anything except pins and needles. And it's getting worse. He has no sense of taste, cannot swallow or talk. His mind is still completely sharp, but he is essentially a brain in a jar.

We are all taking turns at his hospital bedside, waiting for him to lose the ability to draw breath and require a ventilator. Hopefully that won't happen, but there is still 1 or 2 weeks to go before the disease hits bottom and plateus for a few weeks...then slow reversal is expected.

He is 32 years old and normally full of life. Now it will be months before he can walk again, perhaps years before he regains full control of his body - if recovery is indeed complete.

Hug your families and friends, and always remember that things could always be worse. I will never feel sorry for myself again.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Lisa Mentor

We all have our trials. Some seem to have more than their share. I hope your friend's youth and strength can carry him through this tough time. Dear friends like yourself can help hold him up and offer than strength.

Hugs to you, your friends, your friend and his family. Don't loose HOPE!

flourgirl Apprentice

Hey Henny.....so sorry to hear about your friend. I've known someone who had this, too. It's a terrible thing. Good news is she did get much better and has gone on with life. You are right about one thing.....you never have to look very far to find someone much, much worse off.

Even knowing this I still have those moments....petty little pity parties. I allow it to go on for a very short time and then get on. We are fortunate to have something for which we can control and improve. Hope all goes well with your friend. I'll keep you in my prayers.

henny Explorer
We all have our trials. Some seem to have more than their share. I hope your friend's youth and strength can carry him through this tough time. Dear friends like yourself can help hold him up and offer than strength.

Hugs to you, your friends, your friend and his family. Don't loose HOPE!

Thanks and you are right! Even in this case it could be worse - a full recovery is 70% likely, and an almost-full recovery is more like 90 - 95% likely. Pretty great odds compared to many things.

It's going to be an endurance event, but it can have profound and beautiful scenery along the way.

Thanks for the hugs...I'll be sure to pass it on!

henny Explorer

What is interesting to me about this experience with my friend (and another friend who lost his battle with Pancreatic cancer a couple years back) is how it resonates with past events and feelings I have had.

My husband is a longtime sufferer of Crohn's disease. Over the years we have had years of extreme pain and disability, emergency surgeries, long recoveries and many setbacks. The isolation and stress of those times was just unbearable.

Now when dealing with tragedy among friends and family, all those past hurts come flooding back - leading me to feel much more upset than I think I should.

Does that make sense to anyone? I am not sure how to quash that effect - it amplifies things and seems counterproductive.

Any advice on coping/quieting the past would be greatly appreciated!

Lisa Mentor

I am not sure how to quash that effect - it amplifies things and seems counterproductive.

You can't, but it will make to good times all that much better. (those good times aren't free, you know. You earn them ;) )

henny Explorer

aww drat!

:P


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



mushroom Proficient
Now when dealing with tragedy among friends and family, all those past hurts come flooding back - leading me to feel much more upset than I think I should.

I used to use an expression with my best friend who was coping with ovarian cancer: "It's not how hard you fall, it's how high you bounce."

It does seem that, like a tennis ball, we keep losing some of our ability to bounce back the more we have to deal with. I am personally noting that I don't bounce as well as I used to, but keep trying to find that little bit of extra elasticity to give me a bit more spring. Hugs to you and I hope you and your friend can bounce back.

ShayFL Enthusiast

Sorry to hear about your friend. But most recover from GB and he is young and healthy and should do well.

One of my DH colleagues lost her husband last night. 46. Yes....it can always be MUCH WORSE than not being able to grab a slice of pizza from Pizza Hut!!!!

henny Explorer

awww....sorry for your loss! :(

jerseyangel Proficient

Henny--my best wishes for a full and smooth recovery for your friend. :)

curlyfries Contributor
Now when dealing with tragedy among friends and family, all those past hurts come flooding back - leading me to feel much more upset than I think I should.

Does that make sense to anyone? I am not sure how to quash that effect - it amplifies things and seems counterproductive.

Any advice on coping/quieting the past would be greatly appreciated!

I know exactly what you mean, but I think those feelings are a good thing......it's all in how you look at it. I think it has made me a much more compassionate person. Even though I don't like the fact that I am a much more emotional person than I used to be, I think it has caused me to be more sympathetic and able to relate more to what others are going through. Even though I am more emotional, I feel, in actuality, that I am stronger for having been there.

JNBunnie1 Community Regular
I know exactly what you mean, but I think those feelings are a good thing......it's all in how you look at it. I think it has made me a much more compassionate person. Even though I don't like the fact that I am a much more emotional person than I used to be, I think it has caused me to be more sympathetic and able to relate more to what others are going through. Even though I am more emotional, I feel, in actuality, that I am stronger for having been there.

BIG ditto.

henny Explorer

You guys are the greatest!

HUGS

henny Explorer

ugh....he's continuing to lose ground with this syndrome.

today he lost swallowing, blinking, and speaking. he's on oxygen but not yet a vent. pneumonia has set in.

hope this plateus soon...my heart is bursting.

mushroom Proficient

Gosh, I am so sorry for you and your friend. I send prayers your way that he can pull through this. He is young and strong; be hopeful.

henny Explorer

week 3

he's now on a ventilator. worst part about it is they cannot sedate him because the GBS is affecting his blood pressure and they don't want to risk making that worse. so he's awake and aware, with a feeding tube in his nose and a vent tube down his throat. his eyes are taped shut because the paralysis does not allow him to blink or close them on his own. he's completely paralyzed and cannot feel anything except right around his collarbones and the top of his head. he's awake, blind, and in enormous discomfort.

he has pneumonia, tachycardia, unstable blood pressure, and his sats are getting worse. he's in ICU so we're unable to see him much at this point.

the whole 'it can always be worse' mantra is no longer working to calm me.

I also got glutened at the hospital cafeteria (who knew that shredded cheese sometimes has gluten?) so my mood is blacker than all get-out, so sorry for whining here...it feels good to vent though.

please give up some prayers/good vibes for my friend....he sure could use a break right about now.

Morrisun Newbie

This makes me so sad. I will keep your friend in my prayers.

ShayFL Enthusiast

Praying now....so sorry for you and your friend. How awful. :(

henny Explorer

thanks guys

and Shay, I'm praying for your brother as well :) prayers all around

henny Explorer

week 4 and still deteriorating. This puts him in the 90th percentile for severity.

tests are showing severe axonal damage and high likelihood of permanent damage - it will take at least 6 months to see how much disability is permanent.

please pray for him...and pray double for his fantastic wife.

ravenwoodglass Mentor
week 4 and still deteriorating. This puts him in the 90th percentile for severity.

tests are showing severe axonal damage and high likelihood of permanent damage - it will take at least 6 months to see how much disability is permanent.

please pray for him...and pray double for his fantastic wife.

Still praying for all of you. I hope he turns around soon. Don't lose hope the doctors prepare us for the worst but the worst doesn't always happen.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. 0

      Penobscot Bay, Maine: Nurturing Gluten-Free Wellness Retreat with expert celiac dietitian, Melinda Dennis

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,336
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    VanessaC
    Newest Member
    VanessaC
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
    • Scott Adams
      I do not know this, but since they are labelled gluten-free, and are not really a product that could easily be contaminated when making them (there would be not flour in the air of such a facility, for example), I don't really see contamination as something to be concerned about for this type of product. 
    • trents
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.