Thyroid Panel Run - Results Look Normal To Me.

[ArtGirl]

I had a new doctor run the thyroid panel for me. Unfortunately, I won't be going back to see this doctor for interpretation because of some other issues of what seemed to me to be ignorance about gluten intolerance. I did get a copy of the lab results, though.

Here's the lab results. They look within the normal range to me.

Thyroid peroxidase and thyroglobulin antibodies

thyroglobulin antibodies <20 reference range <20 IU/mL

thyroid peroxidase antibodies <10 reference range <35 IU/mL

............ [my result]..............reference range

T3, Total....[119]................... 97-219 ng/dL

T-4, free...[1.2].................... 0.8-1.8 ng/dL

T-4 (thyroxine) total.. [7.2].. 4.5-12.5 mcg/dL

TSH, 3rd generation.. [1.93].. 0.40-4.50 mIU/L

T3, Free ... [296]................... 230-420 pg/dL

[ShayFL]

You will need a good thyroid doc to agree to treat you. But I will place my bet on hypothyroid. T3 should be at the very upper end of the range to feel normal from EVERYONE I know who has worked on their thyroid (including me). On your scale, I would need to be around 415 FREE T-3 to get out of bed in the morning. Anything less makes me extremely fatigued. You can also look at:

www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

Your FREE T-4 is decent, but your FREE T3 is not very good at all IMO. T3 is what makes the engine GO!! T-4 must be converted to T-3 for everything to be running smoothly. Since your FREE T-4 isnt too bad and your Free T3 is not reflective, it appears a conversion problem.

Me personally....I was SEVERELY HYPO with your TSH. That was me. You may be different. I am giving my interpretation.

BTW your lab uses the OLD OLD ranges for TSH.

You have no antibodies. This is good. My Mom NEVER had them either in 20 years, but was Dx Hashi's post surgery when they removed her thyroid which had little tissue left due to autoimmune disease.

Ever had your Total IgA measured? The thyroid antibody test is IgA mediated and if you are low, they wont pick up the IgG you could be producing.

Since your labs arent horrible, and IMO there is a conversion issue, you might get by with supplementing iodine, tyrosine, selenium and zinc to give the thyroid everything it needs to produce and convert. There are supplements for thyroid that have all of them. So one pill. And a thyroid glandular can also help heal the thyroid.

[DMarie]

I second what Shay said! I have to say that I would be in such a fog if I had your TSH (I feel best when mine is under 1). Sadly most doctors would look at those numbers and say you were fine.

I hope that you are able to find a doctor who knows how to interpret these correctly. Many doctors just don't get it.

[Puffin]

I went to see a homeopath and she immediately put me isocort but without taking a blood test, I have decided to stop taking the Isocort (I started taking Dec 11th it is now Dec 16th) I am having blood tests on Friday Dec 19th.

My question is will the Isocort effect my blood test results.

Chris

[ArtGirl]

Shay, thanks for taking the time to reply. Is there anyway I can compare these results with the more current range indications?

I am not all that fatigued. I have problems sleeping sometimes, and often get very tired right after eating a big meal in the evening, fall asleep for an hour or so on the couch, then wake up and can't go back to sleep until the wee hours of the morning. This doesn't happen too often - used to, but now sometimes once a week or so. (It helps if I don't pig out!)

I don't have many obvious symptoms of hypothyroidism. Skin's not that dry (now that I've been gluten-free), am always hot, not cold (but that could be hormones). The most obvious is hair loss on arms and eyebrows, and slightly bulging eyes.

The doctor who ordered the test isn't going to work out so I'm without help right now. I'm going to see a holistic chiropractor who does kenesiology. We'll talk and I'll see if he can guide me through this maze with the thyroid and food allergies. If not, then I'll keep looking for someone. I don't want to "treat" by myself because I just don't know enough and have no way to monitor how I'm doing.

Anyone know of a good naturopathic/homeopathic (what's the difference???) in the Kansas City area?

[ShayFL]

The "bulging eyes" is a symptom of "hyper". You could have hashi's only IgG mediated antibodies. With Hashi's you can swing back and forth between hypo and hyper. YOu should see a specialist.

[DMarie]

The doctor who ordered the test isn't going to work out so I'm without help right now. I'm going to see a holistic chiropractor who does kenesiology. We'll talk and I'll see if he can guide me through this maze with the thyroid and food allergies. If not, then I'll keep looking for someone. I don't want to "treat" by myself because I just don't know enough and have no way to monitor how I'm doing.

Anyone know of a good naturopathic/homeopathic (what's the difference???) in the Kansas City area?

Valda - I am not Shay - but I can tell you that previously one of the ways that hypothyroidism was diagnosed by taking the bodies basal body temperature. (Google Broda Barnes) This involves taking your basal temperature first thing in the morning, before you move around and get out of bed. I don't remember the temp you are looking for (I think if it is lower than 97.8 that meant trouble) - but the website, Stop the Thyroid Madness - will have all the details. Many people actually follow their temps and graph them - and that along with symptoms tells them when they need a little bit more (or less). You could take your temps as a "back up" test to see if your temps say different.

There is a Top Doc list somewhere out there on about.com. You might even be able to google Armour Thyroid Top Doctors. These would be regular doctors, but sometimes you hit gold here (with alternative medicine-minded doctors).

[DMarie]

I went to see a homeopath and she immediately put me isocort but without taking a blood test, I have decided to stop taking the Isocort (I started taking Dec 11th it is now Dec 16th) I am having blood tests on Friday Dec 19th.

My question is will the Isocort effect my blood test results.

Chris

Chris - I believe that the Isocort can affect your blood work. If I am remembering correctly, you should wait at least 2 weeks after stoping this type of supplement before taking blood work.

Stop the Thyroid Madness website would have a lot of information on this.

[ArtGirl]

The "bulging eyes" is a symptom of "hyper". You could have hashi's only IgG mediated antibodies. With Hashi's you can swing back and forth between hypo and hyper. YOu should see a specialist.

I forgot to mention that I have hypoglycemia also.

I thought "hyper" made your metabolism run fast. Mine is slow - gain weight easily and hard to lose it.

Money is an issue right now with finding a specialist. And, ignorance of who they are and if they would be good. I spent over $600 with this last doctor only to find out that she wouldn't listen AT ALL and was trying to fit me into a cookie cutter type of treatment without asking me any questions. I did get the test results, but now you say the lab wasn't using the latest calculations. I'm thinking, will someone else want to rerun the tests? I can't affort that. I'm going to give this chiropractor a shot, see what he says and recommends - he might be good for overall nutrition counseling - he has a background in that.

Dawn - thanks for the top doc recommendation. I may register with that forum and ask about doctors these people use in my area. Geesh - this is all so difficult and so costly when it doesn't go well. I have insurance, but without a referral from my primary doctor, they cover only about 10%.

[ArtGirl]

(I think if it is lower than 97.8 that meant trouble)

Would be interesting to check. My body temp runs low all the time - in the dr. office it's usually 97.8 or a little more. Hardly ever 98.anything. When it's "normal" I'm running a low-grade temp.

Is this a symptom???

I need to get them listed altogether I'm thinking. I should go back to the thyroid site and look at their lists. I had only looked at hypo, but will also look at hyper this time.

[DMarie]

Valda - I am pasting some info below about hypothyroidism (how to find a good doc - has link to Top Doc site), temperatures and also recommended labwork:

HOW TO FIND A GOOD DOCTOR

Bottom line, it can be maddening to find a GOOD DOC when it comes to good thyroid care. They simply don

[needtobebetter]

Hi ya..

I am having the same problems and was confused about being slim with Hypo, apparently if you are hypo you can go either way weihgt loss of gain!! Also, adrenal fatigue goes along with low thyroid and can also cause lots of symptoms..

[noglut4me]

Holy COW...I just read this post and can't believe my doctor told me my TSH levels were fine:

TSH 4.260 (0.450-4.500)

T4 5.5 (4.5-12.0)

T3 uptake 27 (24-39)

Free T4 0.75 (0.61-1.76)

I feel a thickness in my throat when I swallow, have fibrocystic breasts, Stomach digestion problems, celiac disease, current lumps in breast in process of diagnosing, diff sleeping, depressed, cold hands and feet horrible memory and brain fog!

I tried to take iodoral and had a horrible anxiety attack, sweaty, pounding heart, so my iodine group told me I was probably adrenal insufficient.

I can't believe doctors don't tell you this and don't know it. Had I not been researching on my own, I would have thought I was just feeling like CRAP for the heck of it.

I need a naturopath in the dallas area. Anyone???

[ohsotired]

That definitely sounds hypothyroid to me.

The labs you posted.......is that all your doc ran? No Free T3? No thyroid antibodies?

I'm in the Dallas area. I'll send you a PM.

ETA: Whoops! Looks like you haven't hit the 15 post mark yet, so I can't send you a PM.

If you'd like to email me at oh_so_tired@yahoo.com, I have some stuff I can send you.