Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Please Help With Results


socalmomto2

Recommended Posts

socalmomto2 Newbie

Can someone help me with these results... my sons Ped. Is an IDIOT!!! first he tells me I am crazy to even want any test run, then when it comes back he says his IGG is slightly elevated and everything els is fine... UM... IGA is VERY elevated, IGG is neg. and everything else is not fine... his ANA is positive.

My son had chronic diareaha from 9 weeks onld until he was a year old and we took him off formula. he only gained 4 pounds in the 4 1/2 months following birth (born at 8lbs 15 oz) he was put on Isomil DF (it is loaded with fiber) to help him pass a normal stool, but all the fiber took all the nutrients along with it. Now he is 7 and has chronic constipation, horrible bowel movements, and is becoming more and more out of control behavioral wise. To the point where he is seeing a counselor who was looking at Ashbergers (a form of Autism Spectrum Disorder) and Bipolar... (it isn't bipolar) I just don't know what to do... what do these results mean, as the ped won't give me any info on it...

his results are the bold... with the range for each test he had done...

Endomysial Antibody Screen (IGA) with reflex to titer

Negative

TNP-screening test negative. Titer not performed

Tissue Transglutaminase

Antibody, IGA

TTG Antibody, IGA

<3

negative <5

equivocal 5-8

positive >8

Gliadin Antibody

(IGG, IGA)

Gliadin Antibody (IGA)

84

negative <11

equivocal 11-17

positive >17

Gliadin Antibody (IGG)

3

negative <11

equivocal 11-17

positive >17

ANACHOICE Screen

W/ REFL to TITER, IFA

ANACHOICE SCREEN

POSITIVE

AntiNuclear Antibodies

Titer and Pattern

Speckled

AntiNuclear Antibodies

1:80

Reference range

<1:40 Negative

1:40 - 1:79 Low antibody level

>1:80 Elevated antibody level

Immunoglobulin G

798

673 - 1734 mg/dL reference range

So... his Gliadin Antibody IGA is very high, he is ANA positive, and his Immunoglobulin is on the lower end of the range...


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



ShayFL Enthusiast

You dont need a doctor's permission to put him on a gluten-free diet. It is very difficult to get a POS result on children under age 6 when they have ACTIVE Celiac. So getting any POS result is very TELLING. His little body is reacting to gliadin and likely gluten as well. When he is 7 you might very well get a POS for Celiac, but the damage could be horrendous by then. His ANA is elevated which shows inflammation. By age 7 he could have full blown autoimmune disease (Type 1 diabetes being most common in children with Celiac).

You have nothing to lose by trying him on a gluten-free diet and everything to gain at this point. I would nix dairy too until he is all healed. Then try reintroducing dairy to see how he reacts. A lot of people/children have to cut dairy till the tips of their villi heal.

You might also opt for a genetic test to see if you have Celiac genes. It does not dx Celiac, but is another piece to the puzzle. If your doctor says no, you can use Enterolab for genetic testing without a doctor's Rx.

Mother of Jibril Enthusiast

It's possible that your son does not have celiac disease (at least not yet), but he's definitely having an autoimmune reaction to wheat. You should absolutely get him on a gluten-free diet! Having a positive ANA at such a young age is NOT good. Sometimes people have a positive ANA without any obvious signs of illness, but that's usually in late middle age or older. A "speckled" pattern could indicate lupus (SLE), scleroderma, Sjogren's syndrome, or some other "mixed connective tissue disorder." You really need to find a new pediatrician! Even better, get a referral to a specialist like a rheumatologist... somebody who will be able to order and understand more specific antibody tests.

Kids can heal really fast, but IMO you need to figure out what's going on.

Good for you for asking to have your son tested!!!! And for finding this forum :)

socalmomto2 Newbie

My son turned 7 in September... I am fighting the peds office for a referal out... I did manage to get a referal to a GI today... should I ask to see a different specialist than a GI???

Mother of Jibril Enthusiast

Unfortunately, there's no such thing as an "autoimmunologist," so you have to deal with different doctors for different parts of your son's problem.

You could ask a GI about doing an endoscopy to look for damage in your son's intestines... he or she might be able to help resolve the constipation and gluten intolerance issues.

A rheumatologist is the person you want to see about the positive ANA.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - cristiana replied to EssexMum's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      1

      Concerning GP advice

    2. - EssexMum posted a topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      1

      Concerning GP advice

    3. - Florence Lillian replied to Florence Lillian's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      4

      Gluten-Mimicking Proteins that can affect some Celiac individuals.

    4. - trents replied to HectorConvector's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      326

      Terrible Neurological Symptoms

    5. - knitty kitty replied to HectorConvector's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      326

      Terrible Neurological Symptoms

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,634
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    aritzert
    Newest Member
    aritzert
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • cristiana
      Good evening @EssexMum You are quite right to be concerned about this situation.  Once diagnosed as coeliac, always a coeliac, and the way to heal  is through adopting and sticking to a strict gluten diet. That said... I have travelled twice to France since my diagnosis, firstly in May 2013 and again in August 2019.   My spoken French isn't bad, and whilst there I tried my best to explain my needs to chefs and catering staff, and I read labels very carefully when shopping in supermarkets, but both times I came away with worsening gastric symptoms and pain. Interestingly,  after the second holiday, my annual coeliac review took the following month and although I'd been very careful to avoid gluten all year, thanks to that August holiday my coeliac antibodies were elevated,  Clearly I hadn't been imagining these symptoms and they must have been caused by gluten sneaking in somehow. When I spoke to my gastroenterologist on my return, who is an excellent doctor, he told me with a smile that this was a very common experience in France among his patients, and not to worry too much about it! In fact, before we went away in May 2013, which was just after I had been formally diagnosed, he told me not to even bother trying to adopt a gluten free diet until I returned, knowing what France was like, but I was feeling so awful at that time I ignored his advice and at least tried to make a start with it. (I ought to say - both these visits were some time ago, so perhaps things are a lot better there now.) So what to do?  I would say at least try to explain to catering staff the situation - they should be able to rustle up a plate of cheese, boiled eggs, tuna, salad and fruit, and if things like crackers and gluten-free pot noodle or oats can be packed in the UK, those can be produced at mealtimes.    Of course, most larger supermarkets in France do now cater for coeliacs, but when I was last there the the choice wasn't as wide a range as we have in the UK but I think that is partly because the French like to cook from scratch, whereas our gluten-free aisles have quite a lot of dried or prebaked goods in them/convenience foods, because I think we as a nation tend to use them more. I would be worth doing a bit of research on the internet before the trip, - the words you want are 'sans gluten'.  I've just googled 'sans gluten Disney Paris" and this came up.  I do hope at least some of this is of help. https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurants-g2079053-zfz10992-Disneyland_Paris_Ile_de_France.html   
    • EssexMum
      Hi, I am after some advice re my step daughter and her Coeliac Disease. She is 9 years old and had a very limited diet before being diagnosed (very fussy and very lenient parents), since being diagnosed it has become hard to find places out that will cater for her, but we manage.  History: She had been having severe tummy pains on and off every few months so had a bunch of tests and eventually was diagnosed with celiac disease a number of months ago. We was told that she is at a very high level and should avoid gluten for the rest of her lift, we was told that the gluten she has been eating has damaged the 'fingers' inside her and they will not replenish. We was informed that her body absorbs the gluten rather then rejecting it and that is why she doesnt react to the gluten straight away, it will be a build up and then the pains start. We was advised that by her not reacting straight away, it did not mean it wasnt harming her inside. We was given literature about buying a separate toaster and cutting board etc to avoid cross contamination and have been checking all food labels etc.  Problem: the issue is the novelty seems to have worn off with her Mum and we are now posed with a situation. They are going on holiday to Disneyland Paris for 3 nights and she phoned the hotel who said they cannot cater for gluten free. She phoned the GP and had a conversation and then told my partner that the GP had said it was fine for her to have gluten for the 3-4 days. He questioned it and she said no its fine, she hasnt had it for months so a few days wont hurt and she exposed to it anyway without knowing so it will be fine and shes not ruining her holiday etc.   My partner could see from the online notes that his ex wife had told the doctor that the child does not follow a strict gluten-free diet anyway - not true. At least not with us! My partner requested a call with the same doctor who told him that it is the mums discretion and that the child should be monitored for reactions - he explained that the issue is she doesnt react straight away. The GP said no its all mums discretion and she knows best. We are going to try to speak to the consultant at the hospital, but I just wanted to gauge some thoughts. It just seems bizarre to me that we can go from being told to avoid gluten for the rest of her life and how harmful it is to her body, to now it being ok for her to have it for a few days. Thanks in advance  
    • Florence Lillian
      Hi Scott: A wonderful, thoughtful explanation. Controlled human studies would be very interesting and quite informative. I have been eliminating certain foods and have narrowed it down considerably. Having other autoimmune diseases along with Celiac has become rather challenging. I appreciate your input, thank you. All the best, Florence
    • trents
      Hector, have you had a follow-up biopsy to check the progress of small bowel villous lining recovery after going gluten free?
    • knitty kitty
      @HectorConvector, Please try adding Niacin to your supplements.  Low Niacin has a connection with suicidal ideation.  Been here, done that.  Niacin made me feel better mentally and physically.  Omega Three fats will help, too. For pain, Thiamine, B12 and, Pyridoxine B6 have been shown to have analgesic effects when taken together.  I know this works because I've cracked some vertebrae and this combination relieves the pain.  I was prescribed opioids, but couldn't function or poop, so... I can highly recommend these vitamins for pain relief.   I adopted a paleo diet, the Autoimmune Protocol Diet which has been shown to improve intestinal health.  Improving intestinal health improves mental health because of the gut brain-axis.  Important neurotransmitter Serotonin is made in the digestive system.   Please Read... Association between dietary niacin intake and suicidal ideation: mediating role of C-reactive protein https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40859220/ Mechanisms of action of vitamin B1 (thiamine), B6 (pyridoxine), and B12 (cobalamin) in pain: a narrative review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35156556/
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.