Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Sagging Bread And Cake-any Tips?


Spartans1960

Recommended Posts

Spartans1960 Contributor

Can anyone provide some tips to keep bread and cake, baked in an oven from sagging or shrinking?

Have used some of "Roberts" and "Fensters" recipes and followed them precisely, ingredients, baking time, no improvisation. Please advise?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



JennyC Enthusiast

Maybe try adding more protein to your flour mixture. When I make bread I often add a couple of tablespoons of whey protein, which someone on here mentioned on the flax bread thread. I have also started using fava bean flour to make up about 25% of the flour called for in many recipes. It is really high in protein for a gluten free flour and most of the time you cannot taste it. The only time I had a bad experience using fava flour was when I made sugar cookies. If that does not work, then try altering the cooking time. When I used to bake gluten cakes, I would try to pull them out of the oven as soon as possible, but I find that with gluten free cakes and bread it often works out better to keep them in the oven longer. I hope this helps. I know it can be frustrating! :)

missy'smom Collaborator

Yes, I agree. I find that gluten-free baking often needs a longer time that what the recipe states. I'm often afraid to keep it in longer because it seems that it would dry out but the only times that I've had things sag is when I pull them out too soon. Generally, in regular baking, overbeating eggs can make things rice too much and then fall. With gluten-free baking I sometimes I get better results if I break a recipe up into several smaller pans rather than one large one, ie: cupcakes instead of a 9x13 cake, or mini loaves of banana bread instead of a 9x5 loaf.

mftnchn Explorer

With yeast breads I have found the yeast is important, using regular yeast rather than quick acting.

DMarie Apprentice

I always had the same problem with bread recipes from Annalise Roberts as well! I really liked her bread - but it always fell in the middle. I tried adjusting the water as suggested in some of the tips - and no matter what I did - still fell. I also really liked a bread recipe off of Recipezaar as well - but it also fell. Made good stuffing though for Thanksgiving!

Since I quit eating all grains in November, I haven't made more attemps to fix the problem, but if there is an answer would like to know - because I have 2 gluten free daughters. Though - they always turned up their noses (somewhat) at gluten-free bread. I figure some day, when they have been away from wheat long enough!! Meanwhile, the one daughter now loves the gluten-free biscuits I make.

Spartans1960 Contributor
Maybe try adding more protein to your flour mixture. When I make bread I often add a couple of tablespoons of whey protein, which someone on here mentioned on the flax bread thread. I have also started using fava bean flour to make up about 25% of the flour called for in many recipes. It is really high in protein for a gluten free flour and most of the time you cannot taste it. The only time I had a bad experience using fava flour was when I made sugar cookies. If that does not work, then try altering the cooking time. When I used to bake gluten cakes, I would try to pull them out of the oven as soon as possible, but I find that with gluten free cakes and bread it often works out better to keep them in the oven longer. I hope this helps. I know it can be frustrating! :)

Thanks Jenny, how much longer have you extended the cooking time (ex. minutes)?

JennyC Enthusiast
Thanks Jenny, how much longer have you extended the cooking time (ex. minutes)?

I usually extend it at least until the upper limit of the baking time. If I am baking bread I often bake it until I'm afraid it's going to burn. :rolleyes: It took me a long time to get bread that would not sink. It still happens to me sometimes when I try different recipes, like the gluten free french bread recipe on recipezarr.com! <_< I also bake my bread in a bread machine and that has seemed to help.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



lpellegr Collaborator

Try baking an extra 5 minutes at a time, and tapping on the bread until it seems solid. Also make sure not to let it rise too much - the top should just be to the top of the pan when you put it in. I have found that baking at 25 degrees less than called for can help keep it from getting too dark. I have better luck with recipes calling for 2 cups of flour than 3 cups of flour. All that said, sometimes it's perfect (like in my picture here) and sometimes it squashes down to half size! Usually the old familiar recipes work and new ones don't, so each recipe might have its own idiosyncracies. I kept trying things with one recipe until I got it consistent, rather than trying different breads.

celiac-mommy Collaborator

I have no idea why this works, but it does--when I pull my bread out of the oven, I place the pan on its side on a cooling rack for 5 minutes, then remove the bread from the pan (so the bottom of the loaf doesn't get soggy) and place the bread back on the cooling rack on its other side. Sometimes it shrinks a little on the sides, but not significantly. I also increase the baking time by 5-10 minutes longer than suggested and I let the bread rise in a pre-heated(170 degrees)/turned off oven until the dough just comes over the top of the pan, then I turn on the oven to bake.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - JoJo0611 posted a topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      0

      Awaiting Biopsy results

    2. - cristiana replied to emzie's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      1

      Stomach hurts with movement

    3. - emzie posted a topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      1

      Stomach hurts with movement

    4. - Flash1970 replied to Ginger38's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      3

      Shingles - Could It Be Related to Gluten/ Celiac


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,455
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    jscal6
    Newest Member
    jscal6
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • JoJo0611
      I have had my endoscopy this morning with biopsies. My consultant said that it looked like I did have coeliac disease from what he could see. I now have to wait 3 weeks for the biopsy results. Do I continue eating gluten till my follow appointment in three weeks.  
    • cristiana
      Hi @emzie and welcome to the forum. Perhaps could be residual inflammation and bloating that is causing sensitivity in that area.  I was diagnosed with coeliac disease in 2013 and I remember some years ago my sister telling me around that time that she had a lady in her church, also a coeliac, who  had real pain when she turned her torso in a certain direction whilst doing exercises, but otherwise was responding well to the gluten-free diet. As far as I know is still the picture of health. I often end up with pain in various parts of my gut if I eat too much rich food or certain types of fibre (for some reasons walnuts make my gut hurt, and rice cakes!) and and as a rule, the pain usually hangs around for a number of days, maybe up to a week.   When I bend over or turn, I can feel it.  I think this is actually due to my other diagnosis of IBS, for years I thought I had a rumbling appendix but I think it must have just been IBS.  Reading the experiences of other sufferers, it seems quite typical.  Sensitized gut, build up of gas - it stands to reason that the extra pressure of turning can increase the pain. When I am glutened I get a burning, gnawing pain in my stomach on and off for some days - it isn't constant, but it can take up a few hours of the day.  I believe this to be gastritis, but it seems to hurt irrespective of movement.   Anyway, you are doing the right thing to seek a professional opinion, though, so do let us know how you get on.   Meanwhile, might I suggest you drink peppermint tea, or try slices of fresh ginger in hot water? A lot of IBS sufferers say the former is very helpful in relieving cramps, etc, and the latter is very soothing on the stomach. Cristiana
    • emzie
      Hi! One of the usual symptoms I have with a gluten flare up has deviated a bit and I thought I'd search for advice/opinions here. Also to see if anyone goes through similar stuff. Monday all of a sudden I got really bad pain in my stomach (centre, right under the chest, where the duodenum would be located). I ended up having to throw up for 2 hours, my body was trying to get rid of something from all sides and it was just horrible. Since then I havent been nauseous anymore at all, but the pain has stayed and it always worsens the moment i start moving. The more I move the more it hurts, and when i rest longer it seems to dissapear (no movement). I've had this before, but years ago I think around when I first got diagnosed with coeliac, where each time I moved, my stomach would hurt, to the point where I went to the ER because doctors got freaked out. That only lasted 1 night though, and Now it's already wednesday, so 3 days since then, but the pain persists and remains leveled. it doesn't get crazy intense, but it's still uncomfortable to the point I cant really go out because Im afraid itll turn into a giant flare up again. I couldn't think of where I could possibly have been glutened at this bad of a level and why it hasn't passed yet. I went to the GP, and as long as I have no fever and the pain isnt insane then its fine which I havent had yet. Tomorrow im also seeing a gastroenterologist specialized in IBS and coeliac for the first time finally in years, but I thought I'd ask on here anyway because it still hasnt dissapeared. It also hurts when someone presses on it. Maybe it's just really inflamed/irritated. I'm just frustrated because I'm missing out on my uni lectures and I do a sports bachelor, so I can't get behind on stuff & next to that i'm also going to go to the beach with my boyfriend's family this weekend: ( 
    • Flash1970
      Hi. So sorry to hear about your shingles. There is a lidocaine cream that you can get at Walmart that will help numb the pain.  That's what I used for mine. It can't be put near your eyes or in your ears. I hope your doctor gave you valacyclovir which is an antiviral.  It does lessen the symptoms. If it is in your eyes,  see an ophthalmologist.  They have an antiviral eye drop that can be prescribed.  Shingles in the eye could cause blindness.  I was unsure whether you have celiac or not.  If you do,  follow the diet.  I believe that extra stress on your body does affect everything. Shingles can recur. If you start getting the warning signs of nerves tingling,  see the dr and start taking the valacyclovir to prevent a breakout. If I sound technical,  I am a retired pharmacist. 
    • Scott Adams
      You are right to be proactive, as research does indicate that individuals with celiac disease can have a higher predisposition to enamel defects, cavities, and periodontal issues, even with excellent oral hygiene. While many people with celiac successfully undergo orthodontic treatment without complication, your caution is valid. It may be beneficial to seek a consultation with an orthodontist who is familiar with managing patients with autoimmune conditions or who is willing to collaborate with your daughter's gastroenterologist or a periodontist. They can perform a thorough assessment of her current oral health, discuss your specific concerns about recession and decay, and create a tailored hygiene plan. This second opinion could provide a clearer risk-benefit analysis, helping you decide if addressing the cosmetic concern of the lower teeth is worth the potential risks for your daughter, especially if they are not currently affecting function or her confidence. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.