Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Retest? Or Try Diet?


HelpinOhio

Recommended Posts

HelpinOhio Explorer

Im a 18 year old male. Im not sure if I have Celiac Disease, but my mom does have Celiac Disease.

Ive been having a lot of problems for the past 7 years now, especially the last 2 years. I was tested for a lot of things and they all came back negative. They said I had some type of mental disorder like Depression/Anxiety. I do have mental symptoms, but that doesnt account for the 90% of other symptoms that I do have. Its a pretty long story. Anyways I realized how bad I was doing about 1 year ago and I started doing research. I went back to the doctor and got tested a few more times but they couldnt come up with anything. My mom told me that she had Celiac Disease after all this time, which she never even mentioned before. She hasnt been on the diet for over 10 years because supposedly it doesnt cause any symptoms for her. A lot of my symptoms match up perfectly with Celiac Disease, about 95% of them.

After I learned that it might be Celiac Disease, I went on a 90% gluten free diet for a few months, then I got tested for Celiac Disease for the 1st time. It came back negative and said I didnt have Celiac. I had no idea you had to eat gluten before the test. I didnt know this until right before the 2nd time I was tested. I ate bread for 2 weeks before the 2nd test and it came back negative again. Keep in mind before those 2 weeks I had still been 90% gluten free for over 4 months. Only when I was completely gluten free did I start to feel better, which I could only do for a few days. Anyways Ive been eating gluten now for a couple months and feel pretty bad. Ive been eating a lot of it because Im planning on getting tested again. Im pretty sure that I have it, but I want to have proof that I have it and everyone will know and believe me and Ill know for sure. I dont know what to do. Im very frustrated.

Do you think I should get tested again?

or should I just try the diet?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Gfresh404 Enthusiast

It's interesting, your story is nearly identical to mine. I'm 18, was eating little wheat and tested neg. twice for Celiac, including biopsy. But had a huge positive dietary response. Sure it would be nice to know for sure whether I have Celiac or what. But as far as I am concerned non-Celiac gluten intolerance is good enough for me. A lot of people think that non-Celiac gluten intolerance is simply Celiac in the early stages and that it is essentially Celiac, it just not mean the current diagnostic material. We still don't know a lot about Celiac: just 30 years ago Celiac was thought to be very rare, now it is nearly as common as 1 in 133.

Just because your immune system is not reacting to gluten or that there is visible damage to your gut does not mean that other parts of your body are still being damaged by gluten: just look at all the diseases related to the improper treatment of Celiac.

mushroom Proficient
Anyways Ive been eating gluten now for a couple months and feel pretty bad. Ive been eating a lot of it because Im planning on getting tested again. Im pretty sure that I have it, but I want to have proof that I have it and everyone will know and believe me and Ill know for sure. I dont know what to do. Im very frustrated.

Do you think I should get tested again?

or should I just try the diet?

I would say that now you have come this far and suffered for two months, you might as well stick it out and get tested; that way you will never kick yourself for not following through. From reading your post it seems like you did not really have the motivation to stay gluten free without know whether or not you were celiac.

If your testing does come out negative after all that you can still try the diet, but you can't get tested when you're gluten free.

HelpinOhio Explorer

Thank you both for the responses, and I hope to get some more replys.

My decision as of right now is to continue eating an increased amount of gluten/wheat for the next couple weeks, then Im going to get another blood test for it, and whatever other tests they have for Celiac Disease. Ive been eating a few gluten products everyday for the past 3 months or so, and 1 week ago I started eating +4 pieces of wheat bread a day added to whatever else Im eating to make sure. After I get all the tests done, regardless of the results, Im going to go gluten free. Im almost positive that Ill feel better as the less gluten I eat it seems the better I feel, especially true when completely gluten free. I feel that I really need the proof though. I would really like for the results to come back positive for Celiac Disease, then I would go gluten free, and everything will work itself out. At least thats what Im hoping will happen.

If everything does work out this would be a huge relief to me. As Ive said Ive had some serious mystery illness for 7 years now if not more. The past 2 years have been the worst. Ive been stuck in my house most of the time for the past 8 months. Im too sick and look too sick to go anywhere. Ive been out a few times, but I always feel so bad. I have many symptoms. Im frustrated and sad because Ive missed out on the majority of my childhood. I was there, but not all the way. I didnt experience most of it fully. It was like being in a fog, or a waking bad dream. Theres no way I can get back that time, but it would be such a relief if everything turns out good, I go gluten free and I finally get on with my life. It might sound weird to some, but Im just hoping those results will come back positive.

ravenwoodglass Mentor
If everything does work out this would be a huge relief to me. As Ive said Ive had some serious mystery illness for 7 years now if not more. The past 2 years have been the worst. Ive been stuck in my house most of the time for the past 8 months. Im too sick and look too sick to go anywhere. Ive been out a few times, but I always feel so bad. I have many symptoms. Im frustrated and sad because Ive missed out on the majority of my childhood. I was there, but not all the way. I didnt experience most of it fully. It was like being in a fog, or a waking bad dream. Theres no way I can get back that time, but it would be such a relief if everything turns out good, I go gluten free and I finally get on with my life. It might sound weird to some, but Im just hoping those results will come back positive.

I am glad you are going to be going gluten free no matter what your results. Posts like this make me so sad because of the memories they bring. My kids had issues throughout their childhoods also and I was so very sick that they really didn't have much of a childhood. When they started having symptoms it was attributed to worry that I was dying of some unknown illness. They weren't even tested until I was finally diagnosed, 15 years after the most serious symptoms I had showed up. Some of us just don't show up in blood work, the NIH estimates 30% will show a false negative on blood tests. The diet was very much like a miracle for me and they were both diagnosed only after they finally diagnosed me because they were never checked for it. They both had a low postive on the blood work. Do make sure you get your hands on the actual test results, if you live in the US you have a legal right to see them and get copies. Once you get them in your hands be aware that even one point into the positive range is positive. Some doctors will call a low positive a negative.

Mother of Jibril Enthusiast

This is great advice!

The one thing I want to add is that the numbers for a "positive" result are set pretty high... you can wrack up some serious damage on the way to a positive result. :angry: There's a lot of gray area between positive and negative. A lot of doctors and patients blow it off because they think the gluten-free diet will be "too hard."

IMO, if your body is making ANY amount of antibodies to gluten... that's not healthy. Why wait until you test positive? It sounds like you've already suffered enough.

HelpinOhio Explorer

Again, thank you for the replys.

Ill be making posts on this site occasionally for a while to keep everyone up to date and to ask any questions that I have, and I do have a lot of questions. It seems that even though Celiac Disease (or whatever I have) basically took 7+ years of my life away, it could have been a lot worse. Of course I wish I would have known about it 7 years ago, but Im glad I found it as Ive heard stories of people having it most of their lives and never knowing about it. ravenwoodglass its sad that it took that long for you to finally know for sure what was wrong with you. I hope everything is going well now.

Im still planning on going through with eating the gluten and then getting the tests done. I have had several moments in the last week where I thought it might be better to just go on the diet. It seems like this added gluten is taking a toll on me. Its proof to me that the gluten is effecting me in a negative way. Ive been pretty tired and out of it, odd feeling. Also nausea, bloating, complete lack of interest in things. I went 7 years though, 3 weeks shouldnt be that difficult. I just hope everything turns out as planned. Im looking forward to those tests coming back positive, or at least going gluten free whatever the results are. In my case I have a feeling like itll feel like waking up to a beautiful world from just a bad dream.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Jmartes71 replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      20

      My only proof

    2. - knitty kitty replied to Scott Adams's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      44

      Supplements for those Diagnosed with Celiac Disease

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      20

      My only proof

    4. - Scott Adams commented on Scott Adams's article in Gluten-Free Grains and Flours
      18

      Cricket Flour Makes Really Good Gluten-Free Bread


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,542
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    CC324
    Newest Member
    CC324
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):




  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Jmartes71
      Thus has got to STOP , medical bit believing us! I literally went through 31 years thinking it was just a food allergy as its downplayed by medical if THEY weren't the ones who diagnosed us! Im positive for HLA-DQ2 which is first celiac patient per Iran and Turkey. Here in the States especially in Cali its why do you feel that way? Why do you think your celiac? Your not eating gluten so its something else.Medical caused me depression. I thought I was safe with my former pcp for 25 years considering i thought everything I went through and going through will be available when I get fired again for health. Health not write-ups my health always come back when you're better.Im not and being tossed away at no fault to my own other than shitty genes.I was denied disability because person said he didn't know how to classify me! I said Im celiac, i have ibs, hernia, sciatica, high blood pressure, in constant pain have skin and eye issues and menopause intensified everything. With that my celiac nightmare began to reprove my disregarded disease to a bunch of clowns who think they are my careteam when they said I didn't have...I feel Im still breathing so I can fight this so no body else has to deal with this nightmare. Starting over with " new care team" and waisting more time on why I think I am when diagnosed in 1994 before food eliminated from my diet. P.s everything i went through I did write to medical board, so pretty sure I will continue to have a hard time.
    • knitty kitty
      @Scatterbrain, Thiamine Vitamin B1 and amino acid Taurine work together.  Our bodies can make Taurine from meats consumed.  Our bodies cannot make Thiamine and must consume thiamine from food.  Meat is the best source of B vitamins like Thiamine.   Vegetarians may not make sufficient taurine since they don't eat meat sources of taurine.  Seaweed is the best vegetarian source of taurine. Vegetarians may not consume sufficient Thiamine since few veggies are good sources.  Whole grains, legumes, and nuts and seeds contain thiamine.  Many of these sources can be hard to digest and absorb for people with Celiac disease.   You may find taking the forms of thiamine called Benfotiamine or TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) and a B Complex will give the benefits you're looking for better than taurine alone.  
    • knitty kitty
      @Jmartes71, I went to Doterra's site and had a look around.  The Doterra TerraZyme supplement really jumped out at me.  Since we, as Celiacs, often have digestive problems, I looked at the ingredients.  The majority of the enzymes in this supplement are made using black mold, Aspergillus!  Other enzymes are made by yeast Saccharomyces!  Considering the fact that Celiac often have permeable intestines (leaky gut syndrome), I would be very hesitant to take a product like this.  Although there may not be live black mold or yeast in the product, the enzymes may still cause an immune system response which would definitely cause inflammation throughout the body.   Skin, eyes, and intestines are all made from the same basic type of cells.  Your skin on the outside and eyes can reflect how irritated the intestines are on the inside.  Our skin, eyes, and intestines all need the same vitamins and nutrients to be healthy:  Vitamin A, Niacin B3 and Tryptophan, Riboflavin B2, Biotin B7, Vitamin C, and Omega Threes.  Remember that the eight B vitamins work together.  Just taking high doses of just one, vitamin like B12, can cause a deficiency in the others.  Taking high doses of B12 can mask a Folate B9 deficiency.  If you take B12, please take a B Complex, too.  Thiamine B1 can be taken in high doses safely without toxicity.  Thiamine is needed by itself to produce energy so every cell in the body can function, but Thiamine also works with the other B vitamins to make life sustaining enzymes and digestive enzymes.  Deficiencies in either Niacin, Vitamin C, or Thiamine can cause digestive problems resulting in Pellagra, Scurvy, and Gastrointestinal Beriberi.   If you change your diet, you will change your intestinal microbiome.  Following the Autoimmune Protocol Diet, a Paleo diet, will starve out SIBO bacteria.  Thiamine keeps bacteria in check so they don't get out of control as in SIBO.  Thiamine also keeps MOLDS and Yeasts from overgrowth.   Menopause symptoms and menstrual irregularities are symptomatic of low Vitamin D.   Doctors are not as knowledgeable about malnutrition as we need them to be.  A nutritionist or dietician would be more helpful.   Take control of your diet and nutrition.  Quit looking for a pill that's going to make you feel better overnight.  The Celiac journey is a marathon, not a sprint.   "Let food be your medicine, and let medicine be your food."
    • RUKen
      The Lindt (Lindor) dairy-free oat milk truffles are definitely gluten-free, and (last time I checked) so are the white chocolate truffles and the mint chocolate truffles. 
    • lmemsm
      I've used magnesium taurinate and magnesium taurate vitamins.  Didn't notice much of a difference when I used them.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.