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Finding A Good Doctor....scary Stuff

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Just saw a program on TV where they were investigating doctors that were purposely not perfoming tests on patients so that they would get big bonuses from the insurance companies. This made me so mad because my first doctor was like this. For as long as I complained about horrible abdominal pains he did nothing except tell me it was anxiety. 9-10 months later it was so bad I demanded to see a different doctor and he actually ran the tests that diagnosed me with celiac disease.

It's so frustrating that this goes on. I'm not saying all doctors but I know its alot of them. That is a horrible thing to do to people just for a buck. I'm sure there are many who have a conscience, just have to find them!!!

So if you aren't getting the treatment you want.....don't wait like I did. Get a new doctor. The funny thing is, after I was diagnosed by the gastro, I had to go back to my PCP and he wouldn't come in and talk to me because he knew he was wrong. All along I told him there was something wrong and he said no I'm fine.

You can say that I'm a worry or whatever but I will never fully trust a doctor ever. You don't really know if they have your best interest at heart or if they are just concerned with the dough thats going in their pocket.

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Mother of Jibril
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I don't know how prevalent this kind of thing is, but I've had a similar experience. The upside is that I now double-check EVERYTHING on the Internet... side effects of medications, typical procedures, normal and optimal ranges, etc... Two weeks ago I had surgery to remove a lymph node (turned out to be benign, thank God), and I used the Internet to figure out why my steri strips were causing so much pain and not falling off like the doctor said they would (allergic reaction to the adhesive). The downside is that I find it REALLY hard to trust anybody, so I know I sometimes suffer from needless anxiety. Oh well. I'll guess I'll take that over being a victim again :)

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YoloGx
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I really agree with you. Though I think with some its not so much the money as a belief system that thinks celiac is really rare and the recent improved awareness of it is a fad. It kind of seems that the fact celiac exists so prevalently is almost an assault against the AMA's belief system about disease especially since it can affect one in so many different ways and be the root of so many different other degenerative diseases. So weird and really unscientific of them but unfortunately it seems to be true! Celiac represents a paradigm shift that many of them are unwilling to make in their Cartesian, discreet cause and effect universe...

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sbj
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And isn't it funny that there are two sides to this issue?

  1. Some folks feel that doctors order too many tests - just because they are out to make a buck (or fear malpractice lawsuits).
  2. Other folks feel that doctors refuse to order tests because they think their patients are hypochondriacs (or because they receive bonuses from the HMOs when they save them money by NOT running tests).

Jestgar Rising Star
Jestgar
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And isn't it funny that there are two sides to this issue?

  1. Some folks feel that doctors order too many tests - just because they are out to make a buck (or fear malpractice lawsuits).
  2. Other folks feel that doctors refuse to order tests because they think their patients are hypochondriacs (or because they receive bonuses from the HMOs when they save them money by NOT running tests).

Doctors are just people. They all run their practices according to their own beliefs and ethics. We tend to lump them together on this forum (and probably in general), but, it's just a job.....

mushroom Proficient
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Doctors are just people. They all run their practices according to their own beliefs and ethics.

True. I just wish they would run them from a greater knowledge base! :lol:

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