Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Buddha's (non)delight


MarkO

Recommended Posts

MarkO Newbie

Ugggh,

Popped into an Asian restaurant yesterday for lunch. Was pressured to order quick (when I asked them to give me a minute, the waitress returned in exactly 60 seconds);) Anyway, 60 seconds barely got me through 1/4 of the 400 item menu. So I chose the Buddha's Delight. Sounded like veggies, tofu in a sauce.

Now mind you I've never been officially diagnosed with Celiac, but my older sister and best friend have. So I decided about 6 months ago to go gluten free. Ever since (with the rare intake mistake) I've felt 99% better.

Well the meal was great, but I knew something was up... stomach growled when I got home, then passed out on the couch to a sweaty power nap. No sleep last night (churning stomach, gas and sweats) and on and off the toilet this morning.

Anyway, what do people eat when going Chinese, southeast asian? Or do you just stay away?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



lovegrov Collaborator

I stay away. Period.

If your dish had soy sauce, it had wheat.

richard

Lisa16 Collaborator

It could also have been pure wheat gluten. This is called "fu" in Japanese and sometimes it is also called seitan.

And of course, as any christian will tell you, seitan is evil!

Ahorsesoul Enthusiast

When I visited our little local china shop, the waitress actually knew about celiac and the restrictions. She told me a good rule was to order nothing with a brown colored or tinted sauce and of course nothing breaded. I now order something with just meat and veggies. I had ordered some fried rice to go and she wasn't going to let me have it until I told her it was for me husband at home. lol She took good care of us, even checking out their brands of sodas so we would know what we could order next time. She gave us a take out menu with all the ok dishes circled.

Turned out her former boss, at another restaurant was a celiac. This waitress even tried explain it to the cooks who had limited English. She finally just told them gluten would make me very sick. This they understood. Every place needs a person like this working for them.

MarkO Newbie

My sister is very strict when it comes to her gluten free diet. Me, not so much, although I have weened myself from beer and even products like Doritos, Hot fries and other snacks that are made of corn, but contain wheat, or modified food starch in the flavored coatings. But I must admit that I don't get the reactions of other Celiacs... as if I have a higher tollerance. But I still take chances with soy sauce and MSG. 90% of the time I have little to no noticible symptoms. The weird thing about it is sometimes I may accidentally eat a burger or a hot dog and it's no where near as bad as having something like the Buddha's Delight. It kind of seems as though I react worse to a gluten sauce than an entire hamburg or hot dog bun. Is this all in my head?

celiac-mommy Collaborator

We order only steamed chicken/beef and veggies with sticky rice. Not as much fun, but it's healthy too ;)

Jestgar Rising Star

Ya gotta figure, since it's food, your reactions could depend on how fast your body absorbs it (just as with medicine and nutrients). Gluten eaten with lots of fatty foods is likely to be less of an issue, if you react only to large amounts, but more of an issue if you have problems with sustained exposure.

Vietnamese food is very low in gluten, even if you aren't careful.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



momxyz Contributor
Ya gotta figure, since it's food, your reactions could depend on how fast your body absorbs it (just as with medicine and nutrients). Gluten eaten with lots of fatty foods is likely to be less of an issue, if you react only to large amounts, but more of an issue if you have problems with sustained exposure.

Vietnamese food is very low in gluten, even if you aren't careful.

You know, I miss Thai and Chinese food more than I miss bread!

Are there any Vietnamese (or Chinese, Japanese, or Thai) dishes that are gluten free and could be safely ordered out?

My favorite is Panang Chicken. I know I didn't spell that right but its a spicy curry made with coconut milk. Would that have gluten?

Jestgar Rising Star

Whatever you order, it will depend on the restaurant, however, I eat thai curries, vietnamese roll ups (veggies in rice wraps), buns (rice dishes, not like american bun), vietnamese pancake (some fried egg thing with veggies), and no chinese.

tarnalberry Community Regular

lots of gluten-free thai options. if there's a "let's go out to dinner. oh, where can we go that you can eat?" sort of thing, I'll generally suggest thai. (or sushi, at least when I could still eat raw fish. :P ) curries are often gluten (and dairy) free. phad thai is usually gluten free. there are a few other things too (the ones with rice noodles, but definitely not all of them. while thai soy sauce is more often gluten free, depending on where you live, the japanese (wheat based) version may be more easily available to the restaurant. and vietnamese and thai restaurants often have summer rolls (rice paper, wrapped around veggies (and sometimes shrimp), and not fried (just check to make sure they don't add wontons! happened to me once!)

I would recommend getting a set of Open Original Shared Link. while it's no guarantee, the specialized notes about each cuisine have been quite helpful for me.

momxyz Contributor

jestgar and tarnalberry,

you have just made me a very happy woman! :)

  • 1 month later...
chrismilne Newbie

Well the thai people i know mostly use this sauce and its heavily made from wheat :angry:

This bites (recently diagnosed)

Open Original Shared Link

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Wheatwacked replied to Scott Adams's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      50

      Supplements for those Diagnosed with Celiac Disease

    2. - knitty kitty replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Scott Adams's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      50

      Supplements for those Diagnosed with Celiac Disease

    4. - Florence Lillian replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      11

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    5. - catnapt replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,355
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Amy Immerman
    Newest Member
    Amy Immerman
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Wheatwacked
      Raising you vitamin D will increase absorption of calcium automatically without supplementation of calcium.  A high PTH can be caused by low D causing poor calcium absorption; not insuffient calcium intake.  With low D your body is not absorbing calcium from your food so it steals it from your bones.  Heart has priority over bone. I've been taking 10,000 IU D3 a day since 2015.  My doctor says to continue. To fix my lactose intolerance, lots of lactobacillus from yogurts, and brine fermented pickles and saurkraut and olives.  We lose much of our ability to make lactase endogenosly with maturity but a healthy colony of lactobacillus in our gut excretes lactase in exchange for room and board. The milk protein in grass fed milk does not bother me. It tastes like the milk I grew up on.  If I drink commercial milk I get heartburn at night. Some experts estimate that 90% of us do not eat Adequite Intake of choline.  Beef and eggs are the principle source. Iodine deficiency is a growing concern.  I take 600 mcg a day of Liquid Iodine.  It and NAC have accelerated my healing all over.  Virtually blind in my right eye after starting antihypertensive medication and vision is slowly coming back.  I had to cut out starches because they drove my glucose up into the 200+ range.  I replaced them with Red Bull for the glucose intake with the vitamins, minerals and Taurine needed to process through the mitochodria Krebs Cycle to create ATP.  Went from A1c 13 down to 7.9.  Work in progress. Also take B1,B2,B3,B5,B6. Liquid Iodine, Phosphatidyl Choline, Q10, Selenium, D and DHEA.     Choline supplemented as phosphatidylcholine decreases fasting and postmethionine-loading plasma homocysteine concentrations in healthy men +    
    • knitty kitty
      @catnapt, Wheat germ has very little gluten in it.  Gluten is  the carbohydrate storage protein, what the flour is made from, the fluffy part.  Just like with beans, there's the baby plant that will germinate  ("germ"-inate) if sprouted, and the bean part is the carbohydrate storage protein.   Wheat germ is the baby plant inside a kernel of wheat, and bran is the protective covering of the kernel.   Little to no gluten there.   Large amounts of lectins are in wheat germ and can cause digestive upsets, but not enough Gluten to provoke antibody production in the small intestines. Luckily you still have time to do a proper gluten challenge (10 grams of gluten per day for a minimum of two weeks) before your next appointment when you can be retested.    
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @asaT, I'm curious to know whether you are taking other B vitamins like Thiamine B1 and Niacin B3.  Malabsorption in Celiac disease affects all the water soluble B vitamins and Vitamin C.  Thiamine and Niacin are required to produce energy for all the homocysteine lowering reactions provided by Folate, Cobalamine and Pyridoxine.   Weight gain with a voracious appetite is something I experienced while malnourished.  It's symptomatic of Thiamine B1 deficiency.   Conversely, some people with thiamine deficiency lose their appetite altogether, and suffer from anorexia.  At different periods on my lifelong journey, I suffered this, too.   When the body doesn't have sufficient thiamine to turn food, especially carbohydrates, into energy (for growth and repair), the body rations what little thiamine it has available, and turns the carbs into fat, and stores it mostly in the abdomen.  Consuming a high carbohydrate diet requires additional thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  Simple carbohydrates (sugar, white rice, etc.) don't contain thiamine, so the body easily depletes its stores of Thiamine processing the carbs into fat.  The digestive system communicates with the brain to keep eating in order to consume more thiamine and other nutrients it's not absorbing.   One can have a subclinical thiamine insufficiency for years.  A twenty percent increase in dietary thiamine causes an eighty percent increase in brain function, so the symptoms can wax and wane mysteriously.  Symptoms of Thiamine insufficiency include stunted growth, chronic fatigue, and Gastrointestinal Beriberi (diarrhea, abdominal pain), heart attack, Alzheimer's, stroke, and cancer.   Thiamine improves bone turnover.  Thiamine insufficiency can also affect the thyroid.  The thyroid is important in bone metabolism.  The thyroid also influences hormones, like estrogen and progesterone, and menopause.  Vitamin D, at optimal levels, can act as a hormone and can influence the thyroid, as well as being important to bone health, and regulating the immune system.  Vitamin A is important to bone health, too, and is necessary for intestinal health, as well.   I don't do dairy because I react to Casein, the protein in dairy that resembles gluten and causes a reaction the same as if I'd been exposed to gluten, including high tTg IgA.  I found adding mineral water containing calcium and other minerals helpful in increasing my calcium intake.   Malabsorption of Celiac affects all the vitamins and minerals.  I do hope you'll talk to your doctor and dietician about supplementing all eight B vitamins and the four fat soluble vitamins because they all work together interconnectedly.  
    • Florence Lillian
      Hi Jane: You may want to try the D3 I now take. I have reactions to fillers and many additives. Sports Research, it is based in the USA and I have had no bad reactions with this brand. The D3 does have coconut oil but it is non GMO, it is Gluten free, Soy free, Soybean free and Safflower oil free.  I have a cupboard full of supplements that did not agree with me -  I just keep trying and have finally settled on Sports Research. I take NAKA Women's Multi full spectrum, and have not felt sick after taking 2 capsules per day -  it is a Canadian company. I buy both from Amazon. I wish you well in your searching, I know how discouraging it all is. Florence.  
    • catnapt
      highly unlikely  NOTHING and I mean NOTHING else has ever caused me these kinds of symptoms I have no problem with dates, they are a large part of my diet In fact, I eat a very high fiber, very high vegetable and bean diet and have for many years now. It's considered a whole foods plant based or plant forward diet (I do now eat some lean ground turkey but not much) I was off dairy for years but recently had to add back plain yogurt to meet calcium needs that I am not allowed to get from supplements (I have not had any problem with the yogurt)   I eat almost no processed foods. I don't eat out. almost everything I eat, I cook myself I am going to keep a food diary but to be honest, I already know that it's wheat products and also barley that are the problem, which is why I gradually stopped eating and buying them. When I was eating them, like back in early 2024, when I was in the middle of moving and ate out (always had bread or toast or rolls or a sub or pizza) I felt terrible but at that time was so busy and exhausted that I never stopped to think it was the food. Once I was in my new place, I continued to have bread from time to time and had such horrible joint pain that I was preparing for 2 total knee replacements as well as one hip! The surgery could not go forward as I was (and still am) actively losing calcium from my bones. That problem has yet to be properly diagnosed and treated   anyway over time I realized that I felt better when I stopped eating bread. Back at least 3 yrs ago I noticed that regular pasta made me sick so I switched to brown rice pasta and even though it costs a lot more, I really like it.   so gradually I just stopped buying and eating foods with gluten. I stopped getting raisin bran when I was constipated because it made me bloated and it didn't help the constipation any more (used to be a sure bet that it would in the past)   I made cookies and brownies using beans and rolled oats and dates and tahini and I LOVE them and have zero issues eating those I eat 1 or more cans of beans per day easily can eat a pound of broccoli - no problem! Brussels sprouts the same thing.   so yeh it's bread and related foods that are clearly the problem  there is zero doubt in my mind    
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.