Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

I Can't Get Diagnosed!


ecitizen

Recommended Posts

ecitizen Newbie

Over the last year, I've experienced small fiber-like neuropathy, mainly in my legs but also arms and face occasionally. It all started out one time after eating at an indian restaurant. I'm a 35 year old male and otherwise in great health. This was a sudden onset. I did every test possible, from B12 to MRIs to all kinds of blood work. The only thing that came out abnormal was a positive gliadin reading of 38. My neuro thought I might have Celiac so I went to a GI specialist. I had an endoscopy and the results were negative for celiac (according to him). So they did a prometheus blood test to check me for a celiac gene called DQ alpha and beta 1. The results say "yes" for celiac gene pairs present. I've been gluten free for about 4 months now and the neuropathy is diminishing, although not completely gone.

My question is could I just have gluten sensitivity and not have Celiac? Are they different? I have no other symptoms.

Thanks.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



ravenwoodglass Mentor

I do so hate the term 'just gluten sensitivity' it makes it seem that it is less serious than 'celiac'. My primary presenting symptoms for years were neuro damage and the skin form of celiac,DH. Many doctors would consider me to be 'just gluten intolerant' since my blood work has always been a false negative. If you read my signature you will see how serious being 'just gluten intolerant' can be. The damage to my nervous system and other organs was severe long before the typical GI symptoms became more than just an occasional annoyance. You should follow the diet just as strictly as someone who is considered celiac to avoid more damage. Once the neuro damage goes far enough coming back from it can be a process that takes years and if things go on long enough full recovery may never happen. I am glad to hear your neuro issues are improving, it does take time. It took about 2 years for me to regain slight reflexes in my legs but the tingling and numbness impoved within 6 months and in that time I was able to stop using my canes. Keep on the diet and you should continue to improve.

ecitizen Newbie
I do so hate the term 'just gluten sensitivity' it makes it seem that it is less serious than 'celiac'. My primary presenting symptoms for years were neuro damage and the skin form of celiac,DH. Many doctors would consider me to be 'just gluten intolerant' since my blood work has always been a false negative. If you read my signature you will see how serious being 'just gluten intolerant' can be. The damage to my nervous system and other organs was severe long before the typical GI symptoms became more than just an occasional annoyance. You should follow the diet just as strictly as someone who is considered celiac to avoid more damage. Once the neuro damage goes far enough coming back from it can be a process that takes years and if things go on long enough full recovery may never happen. I am glad to hear your neuro issues are improving, it does take time. It took about 2 years for me to regain slight reflexes in my legs but the tingling and numbness impoved within 6 months and in that time I was able to stop using my canes. Keep on the diet and you should continue to improve.

Thanks for your response. Yes, I'm beginning to understand more about this as I go. I'm still "undiagnosed" but feeling more and more confident that my neuropathy is from gluten. I'm hoping it goes away completely eventually, although it is hard not knowing for sure while staying on such a strict diet. Because I have no other symptoms, I'm not sure how I know when even a trace of gluten found its way into my food. I'm doing the best I can on the diet from knowledge I've gained on the internet. I just wish I had a definitive diagnosis. I guess I should be grateful that through all the other tests, I was given a clean bill of health. I'm really disappointed with the whole experience with the healthcare system. If I didn't push, I would have not gotten anywhere.

ravenwoodglass Mentor

If you feel the strong need for diagnosis another option might be Enterolab, they test for stool antibodies and do genetic testing for all celiac related genes, not just DQ2or DQ8.

homemaker Enthusiast
Over the last year, I've experienced small fiber-like neuropathy, mainly in my legs but also arms and face occasionally. It all started out one time after eating at an indian restaurant. I'm a 35 year old male and otherwise in great health. This was a sudden onset. I did every test possible, from B12 to MRIs to all kinds of blood work. The only thing that came out abnormal was a positive gliadin reading of 38. My neuro thought I might have Celiac so I went to a GI specialist. I had an endoscopy and the results were negative for celiac (according to him). So they did a prometheus blood test to check me for a celiac gene called DQ alpha and beta 1. The results say "yes" for celiac gene pairs present. I've been gluten free for about 4 months now and the neuropathy is diminishing, although not completely gone.

My question is could I just have gluten sensitivity and not have Celiac? Are they different? I have no other symptoms.

Thanks.

Ecitizen..I too can't seem to get diagnosed...and I too had symptoms of neuropathy...Mainly in my legs and face...tingling...and in my feet...all medical avenues came up with nothing...

My mother had what I now think was celiac...the family story goes that she was failure to thrive, almost died and lived on rice gruel and bananas and it saved her life...medicine in the 1920's was not that developed...She died early of an early onset dementia...probably not celiac realted...

My Aunt died of an unknown nuero-muscular disease of unknown origin

My sister has Celiac Dx with Blood work and Endoscopy....

With that history I was not going to wait for a diagnosis...I did the bloodwork it was negative...

But I am NOT going to take any chances....

GOOD for you to going gluten-free!

I am glad that your neuropathy is diminishing!

Personally I just went gluten-free and never will look back...I took charge of my own well being!

Blessings to you!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,964
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Cbear
    Newest Member
    Cbear
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Scott Adams
      If black seed oil is working for his Afib, stick to it, but if not, I can say that ablation therapy is no big deal--my mother was out of the procedure in about 1 hour and went home that evening, and had zero negative effects from the treatment. PS - I would recommend that your husband get an Apple watch to monitor his Afib--there is an app and it will take readings 24/7 and give reports on how much of the time he's in it. Actual data like this should be what should guide his treatment.
    • Jacki Espo
      This happened to me as well. What’s weirder is that within a couple hours of taking paxlovid it subsided. I thought maybe I got glutened but after reading your post not so sure. 
    • Mari
      Hi Tiffany. Thank you for writing your dituation and  circumstancesin such detail and so well writte, too. I particularly noticed what you wrote about brain for and feeling like your brain is swelling and I know from my own experiences that's how it feel and your brain really does swell and you get migraines.    Way back when I was in my 20s I read a book by 2 MD allergist and they described their patient who came in complaining that her brain, inside her cranium, was swelling  and it happened when she smelled a certain chemical she used in her home. She kept coming back and insisting her brain actually swelled in her head. The Drs couldn't explain this problem so they, with her permission, performed an operation where they made a small opening through her cranium, exposed her to the chemical then watched as she brain did swell into the opening. The DRs were amazed but then were able to advise her to avoid chemicals that made her brain swell. I remember that because I occasionally had brain fog then but it was not a serious problem. I also realized that I was becoming more sensitive to chemicals I used in my work in medical laboratories. By my mid forties the brain fog and chemicals forced me to leave my  profession and move to a rural area with little pollution. I did not have migraines. I was told a little later that I had a more porous blood brain barrier than other people. Chemicals in the air would go up into my sinused and leak through the blood brain barrier into my brain. We have 2 arteries  in our neck that carry blood with the nutrients and oxygen into the brain. To remove the fluids and used blood from the brain there are only capillaries and no large veins to carry it away so all those fluids ooze out much more slowly than they came in and since the small capillaries can't take care of extra fluid it results in swelling in the face, especially around the eyes. My blood flow into my brain is different from most other people as I have an arterial ischema, adefectiveartery on one side.   I have to go forward about 20 or more years when I learned that I had glaucoma, an eye problem that causes blindness and more years until I learned I had celiac disease.  The eye Dr described my glaucoma as a very slow loss of vision that I wouldn't  notice until had noticeable loss of sight.  I could have my eye pressure checked regularly or it would be best to have the cataracts removed from both eyes. I kept putting off the surgery then just overnight lost most of the vision in my left eye. I thought at the I had been exposed to some chemical and found out a little later the person who livedbehind me was using some chemicals to build kayaks in a shed behind my house. I did not realize the signifance  of this until I started having appointments with a Dr. in a new building. New buildings give me brain fog, loss of balance and other problems I know about this time I experienced visual disturbances very similar to those experienced by people with migraines. I looked further online and read that people with glaucoma can suffer rapid loss of sight if they have silent migraines (no headache). The remedy for migraines is to identify and avoid the triggers. I already know most of my triggers - aromatic chemicals, some cleaning materials, gasoline and exhaust and mold toxins. I am very careful about using cleaning agents using mostly borax and baking powder. Anything that has any fragrance or smell I avoid. There is one brand of dishwashing detergent that I can use and several brands of  scouring powder. I hope you find some of this helpful and useful. I have not seen any evidence that Celiac Disease is involved with migraines or glaucoma. Please come back if you have questions or if what I wrote doesn't make senseto you. We sometimes haveto learn by experience and finding out why we have some problems. Take care.       The report did not mention migraines. 
    • Mari
      Hi Jmartes71 That is so much like my story! You probably know where Laytonville is and that's where I was living just before my 60th birthday when the new Dr. suggested I could have Celiacs. I didn't go on a gluten challange diet before having the Celiac panel blood test drawn. The results came back as equivical as one antibody level was very high but another, tissue transaminasewas normal. Itdid show I was  allergic to cows milk and I think hot peppers. I immediately went gluten free but did not go in for an endoscopy. I found an online lab online that would do the test to show if I had a main celiac gene (enterolab.com). The report came back that I had inherited a main celiac gene, DQ8, from one parent and a D!6 from the other parent. That combination is knows to sym[tons of celiac worse than just inheriting one main celiac gene. With my version of celiac disease I was mostly constipated but after going gluten-free I would have diarrhea the few times I was glutened either by cross contamination or eating some food containing gluten. I have stayed gluten-free for almost 20 years now and knew within a few days that it was right for me although my recovery has been slow.   When I go to see a  medical provide and tell them I have celiacs they don't believe me. The same when I tell them that I carry a main celiac gene, the DQ8. It is only when I tell them that I get diarrhea after eating gluten that they realize that I might have celiac disease. Then they will order th Vitamin B12 and D3 that I need to monitor as my B12 levels can go down very fast if I'm not taking enough of it. Medical providers haven't been much help in my recovery. They are not well trained in this problem. I really hope this helps ypu. Take care.      
    • knitty kitty
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.