Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Doctor Diagnosed Based On Weak Result. I Am Not Convinced This Is It.


Jeffiner

Recommended Posts

Jeffiner Apprentice

Transglutaminase Iga of 4.5 and all other numbers were normal. The test says that 4.0 to 10 is a weak positive. The four other numbers were normal. She REFUSED to send me to another doctor to confirm it. Doesn't that seem a little strange to diagnose me with Celiac Disease with such a weak positive? Possibly I do have it, but certainly it does not seem enough to confirm such a diagnosis. I have been sick for seven years now. I just don't want to take shots in the dark when a gastro doctor might be able to explore everything that it could be. I also had elevated protein, white blood cells, red blood cells, and occult blood in my urine. Does that have anything to do with Celiac Disease?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



RiceGuy Collaborator

I'm no expert on the tests, but I read that it only takes one number to be meaningful. Also, many on this board have had all the tests show negative, but going gluten-free has made all the difference for them.

While you could pursue further testing, such as a biopsy, this is also not reliable enough to count on it. The best test is the one you do yourself - a gluten-free diet. If you feel better, that's what matters. However, the longer you are gluten-free, the less likely any further tests will be accurate. So if you feel you need a doctor's confirmation, then go ahead and get whatever tests you want done. Just know that in the end, no matter what the results say, you should try the gluten-free diet anyway. It's not difficult, and it just might be the best thing you'll ever do for your health.

HTH

sandsurfgirl Collaborator

From everything I have read a positive is a positive no matter how weak or strong it is. Just like a pregnancy test. A faint line is still pregnant no matter what.

In your doctor's defense, she may be trying to protect you by not sending you elsewhere. If you read enough on these boards, you'll see that many of us, maybe even most of us, have been misdiagnosed by countless doctors and many of them have been gastroenterologists. You'll see posts by people who have had the GI docs, who should be experts in this, tell them the most idiotic inane things and have no CLUE about celiac disease or anything dietary.

Once you start down the path with the GI docs and the testing, you may or may not get the answers you are seeking. The biopsy isn't all that accurate, so if it comes up negative it can be wrong.

You need to decide if you can wait months more to second guess what this doctor is telling you and keep eating lots of gluten to make yourself sick enough to have a chance at getting even close to accurate testing.

She sounds like a very good doctor to me. She is taking your blood tests and your symptoms seriously and she's trying to help you get better.

My O.B. said she was sure I had celiac disease 7 years ago based on my history, and the GI doc gave me a laundry list of reasons why there was NO WAY I had celiac. I was thrilled! I mean who wants to live with such a strict diet? I made the mistake of believing him and suffered an extra 7 years. I found out that EVERY symptom he said pointed to NOT being celiac were actually classic celiac symptoms and the guy was dead wrong. I will regret believing him for the rest of my life because I lost 7 years of my life to being sick. I had 2 miserable pregnancies that ended with a crash C section a month early for my 1st one, major illness for my 2nd one, and preterm labor and bleeding with both.

Jeffiner Apprentice

Thank you for the advice. I realize that a gastro doctor might not correctly diagnose it either. The doctor that ordered the test tested for it because I asked her to. She didn't think I had it. She then called to tell me that I did have it and that I could get all the information that I needed online. I have NEVER had a doctor give me a diagnosis and then tell me to "look it up online" for guidance. For me, that made me a little untrusting of her knowledge of it. If I go to the gastro doctor with no results and he disagrees with the diagnosis, I will still try the diet to see if it helps. I guess my real concern is that it has done damage that won't be found without further testing. My whole body hurts, I am short of breath, the glands in my neck hurt......the list is huge. Thank you again for your replies.

Jestgar Rising Star

Or you could assume that she's smart enough to know that she can't give all the info you need.

If you try the gluten-free diet and you don't get better you still have the option of pursuing other testing.

ravenwoodglass Mentor

"Or you could assume that she's smart enough to know that she can't give all the info you need."

I agree with this. It sounds like you have a good and caring doctor who wants you to get better as soon as you can. There is a bit to learn when we are first diagnosed. It isn't as simple as just don't eat wheat. You have found a great place for the info you need. Read as much as you can and ask any questions you need to. I think the diet is going to make an incredible difference in how you feel.

tarnalberry Community Regular

The diet is a large learning curve. There is no way that she, or anyone who hasn't lived with the gluten free diet, can tell you about the disease without taking hours, over the course of weeks. It's like getting into exercise; some things don't need a trainer, you just do it on your own, but actually finding a schedule, method, location, etc. that works for you takes a much longer time.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Jeffiner Apprentice

I don't know, I found information online, her advice :blink: , that said that it could only be diagnosed for certain with a biopsy. Seeing how my reading was 4.5, only slightly above normal, I would think she would want to confirm it with someone that does know about it. I suppose my fear is that something else is wrong because I have been undiagnosed for so long and my symptoms have gotten much worse very quickly. This diet is expensive, not what I want to do if it is wrong because buying groceries now is a stretch.

It made me angry too that I pay out the nose for my health insurance and she denied me a second opinion. I am overwhelmed by this.

I just wondered if anyone else was diagnosed based solely on a weak positive and if they feel the diagnosis was correct. Thanks for the replies.

mushroom Proficient

The biopsy is considered by doctors to be the "gold standard" for diagnosis, but don't forget that for a long while that was the only test there was, before the blood testing was developed. Of course the GI's want to do the biopsies because they make more money that way. But the biopsy does really not tell you reliably whether or not your symptoms will respond to the diet. It can be totally negative but the diet nevertheless solves all your symptoms. Many of our posters had totally negative tests (blood and biopsy) and positive response to the diet. Yes, eating this way can be more expensive, or more time-consuming, and is a bit of a pain, but how much is your health worth? A good trial of the diet will tell you if this is the way you should be eating. And you don't have to go out and buy all the expensive processed gluten free foods. All the good, healthy foods are naturally gluten free--meat, fish, poultry, vegetables, fruits, rice, nuts and seeds. If eating this way does not help you then you can tell your doctor this and ask for a referral. Under those circumstances I am sure she would give you one and your could explore other possible reasons for your symptoms. But you do have to give it a good trial and eliminate all gluten, including from supplements, prescription medications, personal care products, etc.

GFinDC Veteran

There are several celiac centers around the country you could check on. They would have doctors who specialize in celiac and could give you advice. Or you could take the free route and do the diet as your own test. You either get better or you don't. But do the diet 100% for several months at least and you should have some idea if it is a gluten problem. Try eliminating soy and dairy also. gluten-free doesn't have to be more expensive. There are plenty of simple whole foods you can eat instead of all the factory processed foods that are actually more expensive. And the gluten-free diet won't hurt you. You would actually be eating a healthier diet which should help even if you have some other condition.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,019
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Wilson1984
    Newest Member
    Wilson1984
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • sleuth
      He is not just a psychiatrist.  He is also a neuroscientist.  And yes, I have already read those studies.   I agree with benfotiamine.  This is short term while glutened/inflammation occurs.  As I had already mentioned, these symptoms no longer exist when this phase passes.  And yes, I know that celiac is a disease of malnutrition.  We are working with a naturopath.
    • knitty kitty
      Please do more research before you settle on nicotine. Dr. Paul New house is a psychiatrist.  His latest study involves the effect of nicotine patches on Late Life Depression which has reached no long term conclusions about the benefits.   Effects of open-label transdermal nicotine antidepressant augmentation on affective symptoms and executive function in late-life depression https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39009312/   I'm approaching the subject from the Microbiologist's point of view which shows nicotine blocks Thiamine B1 uptake and usage:   Chronic Nicotine Exposure In Vivo and In Vitro Inhibits Vitamin B1 (Thiamin) Uptake by Pancreatic Acinar Cells https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26633299/   While supplementation with thiamine in the form Benfotiamine can protect from damage done by  nicotine: Benfotiamine attenuates nicotine and uric acid-induced vascular endothelial dysfunction in the rat https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18951979/   I suggest you study the beneficial effects of Thiamine (Benfotiamine and TTFD) on the body and mental health done by Dr. Derrick Lonsdale and Dr. Chandler Marrs.  Dr. Lonsdale had studied thiamine over fifty years.   Hiding in Plain Sight: Modern Thiamine Deficiency https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8533683/ I suggest you read their book Thiamine Deficiency Disease, Dysautonomia, and High Calorie Malnutrition.     Celiac Disease is a disease of malabsorption causing malnutrition.  Thiamine and benfotiamine: Focus on their therapeutic potential https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10682628/
    • sleuth
      Thanks for your response.  Everything you mentioned he is and has been doing.  Tobacco is not the same as nicotine.  Nicotine, in the form of a patch, does not cause gastrointestinal irritation.  Smoking does. He is not smoking.  Please do your research before stating false information. Dr. Paul Newhouse has been doing research on nicotine the last 40 years at Vanderbilt University Medical Center.  
    • Jmartes71
      Im so frustrated and still getting the run around trying to reprove my celiac disease which my past primary ignored for 25 years.I understand that theres a ray of medical that doctors are limited too but not listening and telling the patient ( me) that im not as sensitive as I think and NOT celiac!Correction Mr white coat its not what I think but for cause and affect and past test that are not sticking in my medical records.I get sick violently with foods consumed, not eating the foods will show Im fabulous. After many blood draws and going through doctors I have the HLA- DQ2 positive which I read in a study that Iran conducted that the severity in celiac is in that gene.Im glutenfree and dealing with related issues which core issue of celiac isn't addressed. My skin, right eye, left leg diagestive issues affected. I have high blood pressure because im in pain.Im waisting my time on trying to reprove that Im celiac which is not a disease I want, but unfortunately have.It  has taken over my life personally and professionally. How do I stop getting medically gaslight and get the help needed to bounce back if I ever do bounce back to normal? I thought I was in good care with " celiac specialist " but in her eyes Im good.Im NOT.Sibo positive, IBS, Chronic Fatigue just to name a few and its all related to what I like to call a ghost disease ( celiac) since doctors don't seem to take it seriously. 
    • trents
      @Martha Mitchell, your reaction to the lens implant with gluten sounds like it could be an allergic reaction rather than a celiac reaction. It is possible for a celiac to be also allergic to gluten as it is a protein component in wheat, barley and rye.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.